Mobile Dogwash

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Originally Posted by Aratron

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what constitutes a live performance anyway?

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Playing live

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Playing live

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i think they do play live dude. or live as anyone plays these days.

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Originally Posted by Aratron

i think they do play live dude. or live as anyone plays these days.

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playing live should mean having your tracks unmixed with lots of the elements on their own channels, so you can bring them in and out live

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Originally Posted by dan the acid man

playing live should mean having your tracks unmixed with lots of the elements on their own channels, so you can bring them in and out live

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they play live then, they know what they're doing

Last I heard they were just DJ mixing in ableton, track to track
Nowt wrong with the music, but there are too many people playing this way and claiming to be live pa`s.

It`s very lazy.

Live should mean live really.

Still, they got some new releases on the way, which is great!!

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Last I heard they were just DJ mixing in ableton, track to track
Nowt wrong with the music, but there are too many people playing this way and claiming to be live pa`s.

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aye probably so

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...6/DSCF0055.JPG

Mobile Dogwash Live !!!!

from the left. random, Big Ron Atomizer, and Metatronic.

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Last I heard they were just DJ mixing in ableton, track to track
Nowt wrong with the music, but there are too many people playing this way and claiming to be live pa`s.

It`s very lazy.

Live should mean live really.

Still, they got some new releases on the way, which is great!!

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yeah that's how we play out these days, tend to use ableton to play tracks we've already done int' studio, mixing them and putting effects on live - **** it - i think that there are quite a few acts that do this now - wot really matters is the sound that comes outta the speaker in the end - i'd like to get more into the live remixing side of ableton, it'd be more fun playing out, but i've not bothered my lazy arse / i've been too busy to find time (please delete the option you find the least likely, heh heh)

maybe we'll sort it out this year - i think ron has just about finished renovating his girlfriend's new house, so maybe he'll be allowed out to play again lol

cheers lads, glad you like the set

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Originally Posted by Aratron

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...6/DSCF0055.JPG

Mobile Dogwash Live !!!!

from the left. random, Big Ron Atomizer, and Metatronic.

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where did this pic come from?

"random" is martin who used to (may still do cos i ain't seen the fella in a while) do some good decor for various nights

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Originally Posted by Metadog

yeah that's how we play out these days, tend to use ableton to play tracks we've already done int' studio, mixing them and putting effects on live - **** it - i think that there are quite a few acts that do this now - wot really matters is the sound that comes outta the speaker in the end - i'd like to get more into the live remixing side of ableton, it'd be more fun playing out, but i've not bothered my lazy arse / i've been too busy to find time (please delete the option you find the least likely, heh heh)

maybe we'll sort it out this year - i think ron has just about finished renovating his girlfriend's new house, so maybe he'll be allowed out to play again lol

cheers lads, glad you like the set

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a lot of "live"acts do do this.
Bit it isn`t live.
It`s DJing.

Don`t get me wrong, your stuff is very wild and raw, which is great in a live pa.
I think you guys should really spend the time splitting up your stuff for ableton so you can really work it live.
It`s dead easy really.
Plus you can also use some audiorealism 303 madness vst live as well.

It`s a bit much to get your head round setting up a proper live pa in ableton initially, but once you get your method you really can control the audience more.
It`s much more satisfying.
I`d pay to see that.!

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Originally Posted by Metadog

where did this pic come from?

"random" is martin who used to (may still do cos i ain't seen the fella in a while) do some good decor for various nights

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i've got loads of photos dude. i pic them from the net that i've trawled over the years.

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

a lot of "live"acts do do this.
Bit it isn`t live.
It`s DJing.

Don`t get me wrong, your stuff is very wild and raw, which is great in a live pa.
I think you guys should really spend the time splitting up your stuff for ableton so you can really work it live.
It`s dead easy really.
Plus you can also use some audiorealism 303 madness vst live as well.

It`s a bit much to get your head round setting up a proper live pa in ableton initially, but once you get your method you really can control the audience more.
It`s much more satisfying.
I`d pay to see that.!

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lol i'd pay to see that too

maybe this year - it'd definately make playing live more fun - been thinking about hooking up two laptops both running ableton - it's just finding time really, we've both been quite busy and ain't done all that much music recently

i've been playing with ableton recently, doing dj/live sets with all my own music and i tried splitting tracks up but the set then turns really minimal, like kick then hi hat etc.....its very boring to be honest...but then just mixing track into track is too easy.....im really looking in to making my set more live and i think the only way to do this is adding some outboard stuff to the set up then i can still run most of the tracks as a whole but leave fx and most of the synths for realtime... hmmmm anyone else got any ideas??

thing that gets me is not laying down the parts but getting the fills in there all tied up nicely in the arrangement

ok so henry manages it but he's a genius and i'm unfortunately not quite there brainiac wise

fatcoll i hear wot ur saying, we need some halfway house - i don't even use hardware synths much at all so there's not much hope for that lol and plus my macbook running logic starts glitching once i get more than 20 parts going so i need to freeze tracks (admittedly the tracks do tend to have a lot of processors running on em)


hmmmm

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Originally Posted by Metadog

lol i'd pay to see that too

maybe this year - it'd definately make playing live more fun - been thinking about hooking up two laptops both running ableton - it's just finding time really, we've both been quite busy and ain't done all that much music recently

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Get on it man, a weekend here and there together and you`ll have it down in no time.
Ableton is easy to use, very easy to sync up too.
It`s all just a matter of how you split your stuff down, how you arrange it, and wether or not you also want to use live vsti synths
I plit my tracks right down, but still manage to mix them in the same way as I would DJ, only I have total control over all the parts.
It`s just a matter of practice as it is a lot more work for the brain when you are in the club.
Just set the parts of each tune to the crossfader, so you can mix in and out the individual parts, but also crossfade between all the parts from one tune, over to the next, it`s really creative.

I ****ing hope all the tunes on this mix will get pressed soon :D

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Get on it man, a weekend here and there together and you`ll have it down in no time.
Ableton is easy to use, very easy to sync up too.
It`s all just a matter of how you split your stuff down, how you arrange it, and wether or not you also want to use live vsti synths
I plit my tracks right down, but still manage to mix them in the same way as I would DJ, only I have total control over all the parts.
It`s just a matter of practice as it is a lot more work for the brain when you are in the club.
Just set the parts of each tune to the crossfader, so you can mix in and out the individual parts, but also crossfade between all the parts from one tune, over to the next, it`s really creative.

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can't deny it, you're right fella

there's two of us so i'd like to hook two laptops up, shud be interesting

means we'd have to properly rehearse tho, like a proper live act lol,

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Originally Posted by Metadog

can't deny it, you're right fella

there's two of us so i'd like to hook two laptops up, shud be interesting

means we'd have to properly rehearse tho, like a proper live act lol,

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dude. just been listening to that live mix properly in car this week.
pretty damned good dude. really loses it in the mix, properly messy, brilliant.

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Originally Posted by Metadog

can't deny it, you're right fella

there's two of us so i'd like to hook two laptops up, shud be interesting

means we'd have to properly rehearse tho, like a proper live act lol,

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i'd buy that for a dollar !!

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Originally Posted by Metadog

can't deny it, you're right fella

there's two of us so i'd like to hook two laptops up, shud be interesting

means we'd have to properly rehearse tho, like a proper live act lol,

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I guarentee you, the energy you guys have, the energy your music has, and the dynamics between 2 people truly working a live pa, you will seriously blow it up in the clubs (not that you don`t anyway, but the added dynamic of full control, being able to milk the drops etc), it`s totally worth the effort.