Start The War On Minimal

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Originally Posted by rhythmtech

ill tell you what. there is some amazing minimal out there - check out format b's new album "steam circuit".. it bloody rocks

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to right baz....i have a shit load of nails techno and loads of quality minimal....minimal is a more laid back approach to techno but that doesnt make it shit...some people just have very narrow minds....big ups to all styles...if they groove then you move!...its that simple..

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Originally Posted by BDC

I dont know, to me, I like the fact that minimal :

1. tends to make great use of open space with good use of the frequency spectrum, particularly low-end.

2. there is a loose feel to the sequencing, and hence has a laid back effect on the dancefloor.

3. with the more innovative minimal out there, the better producers tend to use simple ideas in creative ways that you often find yourself saying "damn, its so simple, but so ****ing sick...why didnt I think of that"... this of course is dependent on the quality of the production....

4. most importantly, its easier for a wider "hip" audience to digest. This wider audience, isn't as sophisticated of a listener to the music, but just wants some nice grooves to get down to...i.e. chicks can tolerate it.



Now those who know me well know me for playin harder stuff, and I still primarily do, but like to balance things out by playin minimal-ish type stuff....but it depends on the situation I'm in.


just my 2 cents.

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Reckon theres a lot of truth been written right there, Minimal is generally easily driven by the sound system and the ladies definitely get on with it better.

Dont get me wrong though I do love rocking up to a proper Techno night with my mates and getting nicely hammered. But I do think Minimal takes a lot of stick, Minimal doesnt have to be withdrawn uninvolving plink-plonk all night long.

Horses for courses I guess.

schranz also gets a lot of stick... but sure if dont like it dont listen it . thats wat i do with minimal. sorted!

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Originally Posted by BDC

3. with the more innovative minimal out there, the better producers tend to use simple ideas in creative ways that you often find yourself saying "damn, its so simple, but so ****ing sick...why didnt I think of that"... this of course is dependent on the quality of the production....

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That is everything I like about minimal. Nicely put.

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Originally Posted by BDC

I dont know, to me, I like the fact that minimal :

1. tends to make great use of open space with good use of the frequency spectrum, particularly low-end.

2. there is a loose feel to the sequencing, and hence has a laid back effect on the dancefloor.

3. with the more innovative minimal out there, the better producers tend to use simple ideas in creative ways that you often find yourself saying "damn, its so simple, but so ****ing sick...why didnt I think of that"... this of course is dependent on the quality of the production....

4. most importantly, its easier for a wider "hip" audience to digest. This wider audience, isn't as sophisticated of a listener to the music, but just wants some nice grooves to get down to...i.e. chicks can tolerate it.



Now those who know me well know me for playin harder stuff, and I still primarily do, but like to balance things out by playin minimal-ish type stuff....but it depends on the situation I'm in.


just my 2 cents.

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Some excellent points there!

good contribution. :yup:

Not really into schranz and if there's too much of it in the shop i might have a grumble to myself,but no big deal.You just except thats what's at the forefront right now and search more or leave it till next month.

If they want to make an anti-minimal group fair play.I'm sure you could find lots of groups like this regarding all genres. I agree that it does seem like a waste of time though.

*3. with the more innovative minimal out there, the better producers tend to use simple ideas in creative ways that you often find yourself saying "damn, its so simple, but so ****ing sick...why didnt I think of that"... this of course is dependent on the quality of the production....*



yes i agree with this too
but then thats really relevant to all music wouldn't you say?

anyway for what it's worth EVERYWHERE i go at the moment people are not just moaning about the music itself ie: minimal.

but they are moaning about how ALL their favorite clubs/ DJs are playing either minimal or electro now, and they don't have any choice any more , that seems to be the main gripe.
and i can see where they are coming from.

I was in Belgium on Friday and people were positively frothing about what i was doing
mainly because they'd not heard it before.

it wasn't just me playing to a bunch of acid techno heads who knew all the tracks,
no these were kids who are genuinely fed up with everyone playing the same thing
and just wanted to hear something different for a change.

there does seem to be a bit of a backlash going on i must admit.

yeah i got a similar reaction in Copenhagen last month. "The kids want techno" goes the saying, but they're having trouble finding it

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

*3. with the more innovative minimal out there, the better producers tend to use simple ideas in creative ways that you often find yourself saying "damn, its so simple, but so ****ing sick...why didnt I think of that"... this of course is dependent on the quality of the production....*



yes i agree with this too
but then thats really relevant to all music wouldn't you say?

anyway for what it's worth EVERYWHERE i go at the moment people are not just moaning about the music itself ie: minimal.

but they are moaning about how ALL their favorite clubs/ DJs are playing either minimal or electro now, and they don't have any choice any more , that seems to be the main gripe.
and i can see where they are coming from.

I was in Belgium on Friday and people were positively frothing about what i was doing
mainly because they'd not heard it before.

it wasn't just me playing to a bunch of acid techno heads who knew all the tracks,
no these were kids who are genuinely fed up with everyone playing the same thing
and just wanted to hear something different for a change.

there does seem to be a bit of a backlash going on i must admit.

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+1. I wouldn't bitch about it half as much if our town wasn't saturated with the tripe.
Same reason that I hate Deep Spunky House too. The toughest machoest chavvy scumbags in the town listen to the gayest of the gayest music ever to penetrate your ear arse.

This guys response to the minimal haters of the group made me chuckle! :lol:

''ONE THING IS FOR SURE.....THIS GROUP IS THE BIGGETS PILE OF SHITE I HAVE EVERY HEARD OFF. (WANKERS) IF YOU ARE SO CALLED 'FANS OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC' THEN SURELY SLAGGING OFF A GENRE OF MUSIC THAT FITS INTO ELECTRONIC MUSIC IS A ****IN DISGRACE AND SHOWS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE NO ****IN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. (WANKERS)JUST BECAUSE YOU ****IN BOZO'S DONT LIKE THE MINAMALISTIC APROACH TO MUSIC DOES IT MEAN YOU HAVE TO TRY AND SPOIL IT FOR THE REST OF THE KIDS WHO DO. (WANKERS) IF MINIMAL MUSIC IS SO POOR, THEN PRAY TELL WHY THERE WAS SUCH AN UPROAR THIS YEAR WHEN DC10 WAS CLOSED FOR THE BEST PART OF THE SEASON, NOT BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTED TO GET BLITZED AND LISTERN TO TECHNO. (WANKERS) YES, THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE FOR TECHNO, GETTING WACKED OUT ON A HANDFUL OF JACKIES AND GOING YOUR ENDS IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF FUN BUT AT 8 IN THE MORNING WHEN THE SUN IS BLAZING A MAXIMUS DOSAGE OF MINIMAL MUSIC IS WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED (WANKERS).

SUMMARY: **** YOU WANKERS XX''

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Originally Posted by RDR

Some excellent points there!

good contribution. :yup:

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i think how its mixed is also important.i mix it the same as techno,or try too, and when things go well its an absolute pleasure to mix minimal tunes or even tech house,bags of fun and sounds sweet. mit post a mix up here soon actually once i get my recording thingy to start working!!

:lol: he certainly told them (wankers)

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

*3. with the more innovative minimal out there, the better producers tend to use simple ideas in creative ways that you often find yourself saying "damn, its so simple, but so ****ing sick...why didnt I think of that"... this of course is dependent on the quality of the production....*



yes i agree with this too
but then thats really relevant to all music wouldn't you say?

anyway for what it's worth EVERYWHERE i go at the moment people are not just moaning about the music itself ie: minimal.

but they are moaning about how ALL their favorite clubs/ DJs are playing either minimal or electro now, and they don't have any choice any more , that seems to be the main gripe.
and i can see where they are coming from.

I was in Belgium on Friday and people were positively frothing about what i was doing
mainly because they'd not heard it before.

it wasn't just me playing to a bunch of acid techno heads who knew all the tracks,
no these were kids who are genuinely fed up with everyone playing the same thing
and just wanted to hear something different for a change.

there does seem to be a bit of a backlash going on i must admit.

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yes I agree with ya Henry, but the stuff that you guys make usually has me goin... " shit, I can't even begin to conceptualize how you did that..." which has just as much of an impact to me really. LOL.

What's interesting is that here in the states, minimal takes a back seat to electro house .... just like a lot of European cats made that sharp left back in 03, a lot of good American DJ's made a sharp right and went Electro...

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Originally Posted by basslinejunkie

i think how its mixed is also important.i mix it the same as techno,or try too, and when things go well its an absolute pleasure to mix minimal tunes or even tech house,bags of fun and sounds sweet. mit post a mix up here soon actually once i get my recording thingy to start working!!

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i found this also. in waterford house is fairly big but now a days the house djs are mixing minimal techno the same way they mix house (how does this make sense) so all the techno heads find it hard to get into. in german i seen a minimal dj in the U-Bar and I really enjoyed it music was minimal but the mixing was excited . i have mixed house for some of my mates bdays (not to much) , danny you were there too ... we had to just mix it really filthy to be able to put up with it , i hate standing around waiting for the track to be nearly over.

basically mixing house wishing it was techno as follows
http://file046a.bebo.com/17/large/20...680162998l.jpg

ha ha

:lol: the head on me! Yeah man, at the end of the night we started with the techno. Ah, that was a good night actually.

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Originally Posted by mattboyslim

yeah i got a similar reaction in Copenhagen last month. "The kids want techno" goes the saying, but they're having trouble finding it

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they wont have any trouble finding it at our night....we got a bit of everything for everyone....and im playing a bit of minimal and down-tempo techno to wind things up....its all about the moderation to balance a good night out!....

kenny tekton (S.L.U.T)

www.myspace.com/slutpromotions

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Originally Posted by Miss Saysay

This guys response to the minimal haters of the group made me chuckle! :lol:

''ONE THING IS FOR SURE.....THIS GROUP IS THE BIGGETS PILE OF SHITE I HAVE EVERY HEARD OFF. (WANKERS) IF YOU ARE SO CALLED 'FANS OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC' THEN SURELY SLAGGING OFF A GENRE OF MUSIC THAT FITS INTO ELECTRONIC MUSIC IS A ****IN DISGRACE AND SHOWS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE NO ****IN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. (WANKERS)JUST BECAUSE YOU ****IN BOZO'S DONT LIKE THE MINAMALISTIC APROACH TO MUSIC DOES IT MEAN YOU HAVE TO TRY AND SPOIL IT FOR THE REST OF THE KIDS WHO DO. (WANKERS) IF MINIMAL MUSIC IS SO POOR, THEN PRAY TELL WHY THERE WAS SUCH AN UPROAR THIS YEAR WHEN DC10 WAS CLOSED FOR THE BEST PART OF THE SEASON, NOT BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTED TO GET BLITZED AND LISTERN TO TECHNO. (WANKERS) YES, THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE FOR TECHNO, GETTING WACKED OUT ON A HANDFUL OF JACKIES AND GOING YOUR ENDS IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF FUN BUT AT 8 IN THE MORNING WHEN THE SUN IS BLAZING A MAXIMUS DOSAGE OF MINIMAL MUSIC IS WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED (WANKERS).

SUMMARY: **** YOU WANKERS XX''

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quality rant...touche' i say miss say say ;)

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Originally Posted by S.L.U.T Promotions

quality rant...touche' i say miss say say ;)

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Im especially loving the usage of the word 'wankers' haha!! :lol:

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Originally Posted by Miss Saysay

This guys response to the minimal haters of the group made me chuckle! :lol:

''ONE THING IS FOR SURE.....THIS GROUP IS THE BIGGETS PILE OF SHITE I HAVE EVERY HEARD OFF. (WANKERS) IF YOU ARE SO CALLED 'FANS OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC' THEN SURELY SLAGGING OFF A GENRE OF MUSIC THAT FITS INTO ELECTRONIC MUSIC IS A ****IN DISGRACE AND SHOWS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE NO ****IN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. (WANKERS)JUST BECAUSE YOU ****IN BOZO'S DONT LIKE THE MINAMALISTIC APROACH TO MUSIC DOES IT MEAN YOU HAVE TO TRY AND SPOIL IT FOR THE REST OF THE KIDS WHO DO. (WANKERS) IF MINIMAL MUSIC IS SO POOR, THEN PRAY TELL WHY THERE WAS SUCH AN UPROAR THIS YEAR WHEN DC10 WAS CLOSED FOR THE BEST PART OF THE SEASON, NOT BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTED TO GET BLITZED AND LISTERN TO TECHNO. (WANKERS) YES, THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE FOR TECHNO, GETTING WACKED OUT ON A HANDFUL OF JACKIES AND GOING YOUR ENDS IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF FUN BUT AT 8 IN THE MORNING WHEN THE SUN IS BLAZING A MAXIMUS DOSAGE OF MINIMAL MUSIC IS WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED (WANKERS).

SUMMARY: **** YOU WANKERS XX''

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Yeah I also found it funny he needs to get a grip as not everyone likes Minimal

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Originally Posted by Darkmode

Yeah I also found it funny he needs to get a grip as not everyone likes Minimal

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Aye was a tad overboard wasn't he, or perhaps over bored! *ahem* Either way it's all music, if some people don't like it then fine and if some people do then good for them. I can take it or leave it personally, some i like, some i dont. :)