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05-12-2010, 06:50 PM
BranLanen

When I use software for doing some bass I often use Native Instruments FM7/FM8, also liked Massive from NI but I don't know enough about it, I only used factory presets as they come or slightly modified...
05-12-2010, 07:56 PM
fils_here

some intresting tips & ideas on this subject, cheers all.
06-12-2010, 06:07 PM
Mattias_Fridell

I made 3 examples of bottoms / subs I like as the foundation of my tracks, and no sine to be found anywhere:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3913404/fridell_example01.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3913404/fridell_example02.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3913404/fridell_example03.mp3
06-12-2010, 06:24 PM
DannyBlack

Nice one Mat, Il listen when I get home :D
06-12-2010, 06:29 PM
ritaheed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattias_Fridell

I use different methods, depends on how and in which direction the track goes. I don't know should I reveal the way I make my basses and bottoms? :) I usually get lots of questions about my basses/subs when I get stuck in discussions about productions. A hint is up there in my post what plugins I use for it ;)

yeah man ofcourse you should want to tell us, why would you not wanna tell us? :)

at the end of the day im sure at some point someone sat you down and should you a trick or two ;)
06-12-2010, 06:32 PM
ritaheed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattias_Fridell

I made 3 examples of bottoms / subs I like as the foundation of my tracks, and no sine to be found anywhere:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3913404/fridell_example01.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3913404/fridell_example02.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3913404/fridell_example03.mp3

these bassline's/subs are brilliant, go on mattias do a tutorial :) :)

help us (small) producers out, its not like were gna steal your crown man ;)
06-12-2010, 07:30 PM
Mattias_Fridell

Naw I'm not worried about "stealing my crown" haha, I just find its a well kept secret among Techno producers, maybe they all go after me and smash 1210s to my head haha.

Well anyways.....here goes then:

In example 01 its by far the most effective way to make moving subs, and it's really easy.

1. Take any kick, do what you feel with it ,compression / EQing etc.
2. Add a reverb (with early, late, pre-delay operation) to a send channel.
3. Send the reverb to your kick. Don't send too much of it.
4. Side-chain the send channel you put the reverb on with your kick.
5. Make the reverb channel MONO, and add a low-pass filter.
6. Set the low-pass to filter everything from 200Hz & up (try different Hz)

Now you'll hear how the "bass" will react to your kick for real and it will follow the kicks tone, accent and intonation. So from here its really just to experiment with reveb times, decay, pre-delays / early-late, diffusion to make it sit tight and move nicely. Increase & decrease the send value to the kick till you find a nice balance, you can insert effects on the reverb send channel, compress the reverbs and gate it, add pitch effects to it and what not. You dont really need side chain for this but its nice, but either works.

You can hear this kind of "bass / sub" far far back in the history of techno really, its pretty amazing it been so hidden among the circle of fellow producers etc. Or maybe ya'll knew this already haha.

Edit: What I would recommend for this when it comes to software is 112dB redline reverb, d16 Toraverb, 2C Aether, the logic reverbs, Waves Maxxbass Mono (for experimenting with bass harmony), SIR, Ambience, Lexcion verbs
06-12-2010, 07:40 PM
Honeey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattias_Fridell

Naw I'm not worried about "stealing my crown" haha, I just find its a well kept secret among Techno producers, maybe they all go after me and smash 1210s to my head haha.

Well anyways.....here goes then:

In example 01 its by far the most effective way to make moving subs, and it's really easy.

1. Take any kick, do what you feel with it ,compression / EQing etc.
2. Add a reverb (with early, late, pre-delay operation) to a send channel.
3. Send the reverb to your kick. Don't send too much of it.
4. Side-chain the send channel you put the reverb on with your kick.
5. Make the reverb channel MONO, and add a low-pass filter.
6. Set the low-pass to filter everything from 200Hz & up (try different Hz)

Now you'll hear how the "bass" will react to your kick for real and it will follow the kicks tone, accent and intonation. So from here its really just to experiment with reveb times, decay, pre-delays / early-late, diffusion to make it sit tight and move nicely. Increase & decrease the send value to the kick till you find a nice balance, you can insert effects on the reverb send channel, compress the reverbs and gate it, add pitch effects to it and what not. You dont really need side chain for this but its nice, but either works.

You can hear this kind of "bass / sub" far far back in the history of techno really, its pretty amazing it been so hidden among the circle of fellow producers etc. Or maybe ya'll knew this already haha.

Edit: What I would recommend for this when it comes to software is 112dB redline reverb, d16 Toraverb, 2C Aether, the logic reverbs, Waves Maxxbass Mono (for experimenting with bass harmony), SIR, Ambience, Lexcion verbs

Thank you!!!!! :)
06-12-2010, 07:52 PM
Winds

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattias_Fridell

Naw I'm not worried about "stealing my crown" haha, I just find its a well kept secret among Techno producers, maybe they all go after me and smash 1210s to my head haha.

Well anyways.....here goes then:

In example 01 its by far the most effective way to make moving subs, and it's really easy.

1. Take any kick, do what you feel with it ,compression / EQing etc.
2. Add a reverb (with early, late, pre-delay operation) to a send channel.
3. Send the reverb to your kick. Don't send too much of it.
4. Side-chain the send channel you put the reverb on with your kick.
5. Make the reverb channel MONO, and add a low-pass filter.
6. Set the low-pass to filter everything from 200Hz & up (try different Hz)

Now you'll hear how the "bass" will react to your kick for real and it will follow the kicks tone, accent and intonation. So from here its really just to experiment with reveb times, decay, pre-delays / early-late, diffusion to make it sit tight and move nicely. Increase & decrease the send value to the kick till you find a nice balance, you can insert effects on the reverb send channel, compress the reverbs and gate it, add pitch effects to it and what not. You dont really need side chain for this but its nice, but either works.

You can hear this kind of "bass / sub" far far back in the history of techno really, its pretty amazing it been so hidden among the circle of fellow producers etc. Or maybe ya'll knew this already haha.

Edit: What I would recommend for this when it comes to software is 112dB redline reverb, d16 Toraverb, 2C Aether, the logic reverbs, Waves Maxxbass Mono (for experimenting with bass harmony), SIR, Ambience, Lexcion verbs

Thanks!
06-12-2010, 08:07 PM
rhythmtech

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattias_Fridell

Naw I'm not worried about "stealing my crown" haha, I just find its a well kept secret among Techno producers, maybe they all go after me and smash 1210s to my head haha.

Well anyways.....here goes then:

In example 01 its by far the most effective way to make moving subs, and it's really easy.

1. Take any kick, do what you feel with it ,compression / EQing etc.
2. Add a reverb (with early, late, pre-delay operation) to a send channel.
3. Send the reverb to your kick. Don't send too much of it.
4. Side-chain the send channel you put the reverb on with your kick.
5. Make the reverb channel MONO, and add a low-pass filter.
6. Set the low-pass to filter everything from 200Hz & up (try different Hz)

Now you'll hear how the "bass" will react to your kick for real and it will follow the kicks tone, accent and intonation. So from here its really just to experiment with reveb times, decay, pre-delays / early-late, diffusion to make it sit tight and move nicely. Increase & decrease the send value to the kick till you find a nice balance, you can insert effects on the reverb send channel, compress the reverbs and gate it, add pitch effects to it and what not. You dont really need side chain for this but its nice, but either works.

You can hear this kind of "bass / sub" far far back in the history of techno really, its pretty amazing it been so hidden among the circle of fellow producers etc. Or maybe ya'll knew this already haha.

Edit: What I would recommend for this when it comes to software is 112dB redline reverb, d16 Toraverb, 2C Aether, the logic reverbs, Waves Maxxbass Mono (for experimenting with bass harmony), SIR, Ambience, Lexcion verbs

i cant believe you just told them dude :ruretard:

now we have to kill you :runinja:
06-12-2010, 08:08 PM
Mattias_Fridell

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhythmtech

i cant believe you just told them dude :ruretard:

now we have to kill you :runinja:

hahaha!
06-12-2010, 08:31 PM
ritaheed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattias_Fridell

Naw I'm not worried about "stealing my crown" haha, I just find its a well kept secret among Techno producers, maybe they all go after me and smash 1210s to my head haha.

Well anyways.....here goes then:

In example 01 its by far the most effective way to make moving subs, and it's really easy.

1. Take any kick, do what you feel with it ,compression / EQing etc.
2. Add a reverb (with early, late, pre-delay operation) to a send channel.
3. Send the reverb to your kick. Don't send too much of it.
4. Side-chain the send channel you put the reverb on with your kick.
5. Make the reverb channel MONO, and add a low-pass filter.
6. Set the low-pass to filter everything from 200Hz & up (try different Hz)

Now you'll hear how the "bass" will react to your kick for real and it will follow the kicks tone, accent and intonation. So from here its really just to experiment with reveb times, decay, pre-delays / early-late, diffusion to make it sit tight and move nicely. Increase & decrease the send value to the kick till you find a nice balance, you can insert effects on the reverb send channel, compress the reverbs and gate it, add pitch effects to it and what not. You dont really need side chain for this but its nice, but either works.

You can hear this kind of "bass / sub" far far back in the history of techno really, its pretty amazing it been so hidden among the circle of fellow producers etc. Or maybe ya'll knew this already haha.

Edit: What I would recommend for this when it comes to software is 112dB redline reverb, d16 Toraverb, 2C Aether, the logic reverbs, Waves Maxxbass Mono (for experimenting with bass harmony), SIR, Ambience, Lexcion verbs

mattius your a total gentleman :D

imagine keeping it a secret ya greedy selfish bunch ;) :D lol
06-12-2010, 08:32 PM
ritaheed

now to steal mattius' techno crown :D
06-12-2010, 08:43 PM
DannyBlack

Cheers Mattius! Hey Rita- crown is mine hehehe
06-12-2010, 09:08 PM
Mattias_Fridell

You're welcome. Have fun while tweaking with this
06-12-2010, 10:18 PM
rhythmtech

just wanted to clear something up.

in step 3 mathius says to send your reverb to the kick. i assume he meant to send your kick to the reverb.
14-12-2010, 12:51 AM
ICN

I'm using a long 808 kick inbetween main Kicks, with the attack adjusted.

The mono reverb trick with a Vintage Warmer before the reverb on the send.

Usual tom hits destroyed with fx & EQ'd into behaving.

Logic EXS24 Default sine patch & the Logic EFM1 - Mental deep.

What all these things have in common is simplicity. The simpler the better.
14-12-2010, 01:09 AM
ritaheed

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICN

I'm using a long 808 kick inbetween main Kicks, with the attack adjusted.

The mono reverb trick with a Vintage Warmer before the reverb on the send.

Usual tom hits destroyed with fx & EQ'd into behaving.

Logic EXS24 Default sine patch & the Logic EFM1 - Mental deep.

What all these things have in common is simplicity. The simpler the better.

cool man will give this a try :)
14-12-2010, 01:11 AM
TiagoTechnoHead

Just loved this..
Thanks all you guys.

:)
14-12-2010, 02:13 AM
ritaheed

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTechnoHead

Just loved this..
Thanks all you guys.

:)

quality soundcloud mate :)

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