How many of you actually own Final Scratch?

regarding who'll pay for mp3s if they are available:

itunes music store
nufonix.com
beatport.com
audiolunchbox.com
trax2burn.com
warprecords.com/bleep
epitonic.com
foryourears.com (eventually)

i buy mp3s. i buy vinyl. actually, now i buy more music than ever before b/c the mp3s i buy are 99% other genres, stuff i don't play as much, stuff i was always curious about but didn't want to start buying in vinyl, etc etc.. so actually the existence of pay-for-download mp3s has greatly expanded my overall playlist(s).

all that being said, the single greatest thing about FS (imo) is still the one that gets talked about the least: customization. personalization. immediacy. zahn can make his Lost Boys track one afternoon and play it out that night. maybe never play it out again, make that gig that much more unique for the people who were lucky enough to be there. let's say you're a producer: what better way to test a track in a club environment that to actually *play* it in the club. no waiting, no goddamn acetates. try out x-number of different versions, eq settings, mastering passes before you actually commit the track to being done. or maybe do the exact same thing but with your mate's track... your mate who happens to live on the other side of the planet. and you play the track he made that afternoon. really dig that new ____ track you bought? ...except the vocal or the break or the bassline or the whatever? edit your own version, play that one. how many of us went nutty over the custom edits in those 2 surgeon sets from last september? and so on.

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Originally Posted by davemoore

IF I NEW WOT U ARE JIBBERING ON ABOUT THEN I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING USEFULL BUT AS I DONT I WILL TRY TO SHUT UP NOW BUT IT DONT SEEM TO BE HAPPINING :doh:

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its a piece of software and hardware that you load mp3's, wav's etc into and using it with your decks and some special records you can play them just like you would vinyl, instead of changing the records you drag and drop the next tune you require.

Ive had a play about with it at work and it seems to cause more problems than its worth to be honest.

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Originally Posted by dan the acid man

Ive had a play about with it at work and it seems to cause more problems than its worth to be honest.

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always interested by these comments. more problems how so? it's bulletproof for me.

it wouldnt update, we then tried a manual update and that didnt work, we then reinstalled it and now this week its not giving us the option to choose linux or windows, to be honest it may not be the software as its used by kids at a college i work at, so as you can imagine it gets alot of abuse

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Originally Posted by dan the acid man

Ive had a play about with it at work and it seems to cause more problems than its worth to be honest.

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:shock:

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Originally Posted by g

always interested by these comments. more problems how so? it's bulletproof for me.

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Same here. I have used it for continuously on many occasions.. once for 8 hours straight at a house party.. just let people come up and pick whatever they wanted to spin, or stick cds in, and the only time it goofed was when someone tried to put a bad cd in and load a track off it.

Never crashed once otherwise.

-Chris

PS- Whatch out 4 the new Serato/ Rane ... very much on the same leage as FS but it can b preatty amazing I hear!

;)

Z

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Originally Posted by DJ Ze MigL

PS- Whatch out 4 the new Serato/ Rane ... very much on the same leage as FS but it can b preatty amazing I hear!

;)

Z

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Yah I saw that one too....
The one that really intrigues me though is Ms. Pinky (http://www.mspinky.com/)
Way cheaper than FS..

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PS- Whatch out 4 the new Serato/ Rane ... very much on the same leage as FS but it can b preatty amazing I hear!

;)

Z

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Yah I saw that one too....
The one that really intrigues me though is Ms. Pinky (http://www.mspinky.com/)
Way cheaper than FS..

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not when you factor in that the 'scratch amp' equivalent is not provided w/ ms. pinky. you have to buy some preamps or a sound card with sufficient i/o or some combination thereof. i love the source of that ms. pinky software but the notion that it's so much cheaper is misleading.

Can FS run through Windows now, or is it still reliant on Linux?

there's now a windows native version.
if you can call anything in windows native...

the osx version is so freakin stable tho. feels like the BeOS version.

yeah, we have it at our flat. my flatmates work in pro audio store so we got the first ones in the country (after the a list superstars are givien theirs of course) its fun, and quite hrizon broadening. hey, i can rewrite a chris mccormack tunes so they have more structure and fit in to sets etc. my pal constructs his own battle vinyl for scratching etc, good shit man!!!

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. hey, i can rewrite a chris mccormack tunes so they have more structure and fit in to sets etc.

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I take it you hold McCormack's arrangement in high esteem then.... :roll:

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Originally Posted by DJ Ze MigL

PS- Whatch out 4 the new Serato/ Rane ... very much on the same leage as FS but it can b preatty amazing I hear!

;)

Z

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Yah I saw that one too....
The one that really intrigues me though is Ms. Pinky (http://www.mspinky.com/)
Way cheaper than FS..

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not when you factor in that the 'scratch amp' equivalent is not provided w/ ms. pinky. you have to buy some preamps or a sound card with sufficient i/o or some combination thereof. i love the source of that ms. pinky software but the notion that it's so much cheaper is misleading.

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I guess I said that because I think most everyone who has a laptop for audio purposes has the sort of sound i/o you mention already anyhow.
Regardless.. Ms Pinky costs $100.. so adding on something like a Quattro for < $200 is still cheaper than FS.

I have a question.

Say you've got it set up in a club and are doing a set using it, is it easy to from final scratch to vinyl and vice-versa ie is it easy to take the special record things off and use good old vinyl in the middle of your set or is it the case that you have to only use FS or only use vinyl the whole time?

Rhys - you just click it over to "phono" instead of "line in" on the mixer... and just deselect the little "F" button on the final scratch program... Ta-da! ;)



I might have a whirl on it for a few tracks tonight as a mate will be using it the set after me and I wouldn't mind trying out one of Ferny's new tunes and some other stuff I've been sent thats a long way away from making it to vinyl... :love:

I've used it in my set at parties before no bother.

Is a little bit more hassle to select the tune on the laptop first and download it to the final scratch disc.

I like the fact that you can drop unreleasd stuff into your set and mix it like any other piece of vinyl.

As Dave said, provided you have a high bitrate sample there is no noticable deterioration in sound quality.

A lot of wires to plug in though!

Stanton has a project for equiping some choosen clubs with resident scratch amps, so u'd only need 2 plug yer pc/ mac and the usb cable... tolled them this 4 ages.. finally they've realised it could b used (obviously lots of people have made the same request)...

Z

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Originally Posted by DJ Ze MigL

bring on the new CD by technics or even cdj1000 and I for once won't have much prob in dropping the vynil, sure I'll keep buying. Piracy is a crime and there is no excuse... no lame excuses 4 that.

Z

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:clap: I also stand behind Dustin's statement at least for the states that there just are not people with a thirst for techno anymore. Eminem has corrupted the youth of america.

it's a cycle give it time and it come back u again! :)

Z

Yo you may wanna check this out...

http://www.mspinky.com