Printable View
I agree reading back, ur spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louk
Hands up, im being negative. I dont find anything positive in wat they do. There is too much anger and resentment in me towards mainly the cd, nothin positive gonna come out on this subject. Sorry guys.
Hence my last post on this subject, cant help it.... the cd genuinely pissed me off.
Yeah, when I post about this kind of thing it isn't a personal attack on the DJ's as people, I post it because I care about the scene etc, I don't post it to be negative, so OK I used some negative comments during my slating but then doesn't everyone, it's the same as if you are positive about something, you use positive sayings to back up your claim.
At the end of the day, this is a discussion forum, and not every topic can be a positive one as yes, there are people out there which are doing things in a way that people like me and paul don't agree with, so we post about it, and to touch on the bringing up Cally & Juice again is because they consistenly offend against the morals of putting our sound to other people, IMO they've done it all wrong, if they had released the CD with quality releases in the hardstyle perspective, I wouldn't have a problem, and if they use the excuse that Frantic wouldn't accept some of the tunes then they were happy just to mix cheese for the purpose of doing the cd.
It's like saying Mark EG record us a techno mix for Frantic Euphoria, we won't clear any of your tracks so we want you to mix our techno, the latest eric morillo tracks....
IMO the CD wasn't recorded to put they're sound out to people it was recorded because they had the opportunity to grab exposure, which i sfair enough, but what comes with this is trainspotters like myself giving them a bad name on forum, because, well it's my right.
Anything anyone disagrees with there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by hardstiler
feckin well said!!!
I hate the way u pop on here every day and there's 10 posts just stating how bad a track is, or how bad a dj is..........
and it's been this way for months on here.........
I've said it before - if u don't like it a track - JUST IGNORE IT!!!
all genre's have umpteen bad releases.........most get ignored, but it seems like loadsa people's fav past time on here is to whine about the state of hardstyle.........every day....
"this track is shite and ruining the genre"
"this noise is overused"
"this dj's wank"
"this bassline is unorigianal"
I'm afraid this is it ladie's and gents - the start of hardstyle in this country was immense 2002 onwards, true, for a while now all releases haven't been as high quality.........if u don't like it - get into a new genre, cos loadsa people I know love whats going on now........
just cos its not as easy as it was........ or everyone here is trying too hard to look for the 'next big thing' taking it all faaaaaaaar to seriously, and forgetting to enjoy whats actually about now..........
In the place where all hardstylecomes from - it's larger than ever, so the people there dig whats going on, in might not suit us in a diff country........ but I don;'t think they really give a shit over there as its doing soooo well.
Maybe intead of bitching it's time to leave it alone and go try another genre......... cos can it really be satisfying listening to stuff u don't like all the time? - I wouldn't have thought so.........
and maybe just leave hardstyle to those that enjoy it.........
I'm not fussy on techno, can't see myself going on the techno forum and whining about tracks........ if u ain't liking hardstyle, then just leave it and go do something else......... not spoil it for those that do
U lot still moaning :roll: :lol:
aye
u moaning about the moaning? :lol:
.
Very interesting :)
But I got some words to say.. That a another artist passed down (Africa Islam)
He is a one of biggest rap/hip hop artists, worked with ICE T on body count and numours bands... He plays techno, Hardstyle, Hardtrance..
His set was all Hardstyle. And he wares bling bling..
Where is this story going your saying, simple..
Music is Music, as a DJ/Artist you have to respect the MUSIC.. We are not in competion, every one has there own views n goals in making it.. Just some a lucky enough to get that break quicker than others..
Now seeing a massive hip hop king from the zulu nation play out the UK/HOLEND hardstyle was out of this world.. There is no need to be elite to any style just respect what the that person doing and know that all music is the same (Come from same instruments only just arranged differn't) and comes from the heart..
cheers..
:clap: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dj Sanders
fair play to that :clap: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
hmmm, that's all well and good, but bet your man dont play:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dj Sanders
Tweetwoof - Kernkraft 400 (Schwarzende Remix)
LeBrisc - I’ve Got (The Power) (Thomas Trouble Hardstyle Remix)
DJ Destiny vs Organ Donors - What's Up (Organ Donors Hardstyle Instrumental)
Boogie Pimps - Somebody To Love (Salt Shaker Remix Cally & Juice Bootleg Mix)
Dee Mark - 7 Days & 1 Week (Tom-X Remix)
does he now!
and i bet if does you would be having words!
please understand that this CD is one of the first (if not the first) major UK commercially aimed CDs with hardstyle on they choose to represent the sound with a cheese fest!
CUNTS I SAY, CUNTS!
waste of an opertunity!
OK, maybe i'm being a bit to hard on the cheesters....
if that's what they wanna be known for, fair play to them - go play ya Frantic and belt our such "classics" as "What's Up" to ya sing-a-long beer boys...
i thought C & J placed themselves as credible artists pushing the boundries of hardstyle/hard trance/hard dance and underground music......dont think this release can be judged as pushing any bounderies or being even slightly credible to the real lovers of the scene and music.
Hang on now?? - I didn't see this CD as being labelled as hardstyle anywhere..................
and if u actually hear of the guys that mixed this they'll tell ya it never was meant to be a hardstyle CD representing whats in hardstyle at the moment..........
they were approached to to a bootleg CD...........
or off Juice himself.............
"You've also got to understand that it's called a "Bootleg" Mix so we could only play tunes that were cover versions or bootlegs. This means that some of the tunes are up to 2 years old"
Perhaps a few of you have missed the point of this CD????
and just aaaaaaaaaaaall to quick to start negative vibe's concerning the UK hardstyle scene again?
Infact, Islam played alot of cheese Hardtrance/Hardstyle, he kept it HARD as and differn't but.. His message is doesn't matter what it is... Love The Music.
As for commercial CD's we have heaps of that cheesy stuff on CD..
I feel its a good decision to do this, as it helps grow the scene.. We are not so much underground any more, its very simple these days to get into producing (It makes it more commercial n mainstream) Though helps grow the dance market.. You don't want it dyeing.
As much as you think the CD is cheesy (I haven't heard it) Think of it as way how it gets accrossed to the younger crowd who want to get in this industry and keep growing the industry as the years progress..
And its realy good how UK artists are supporting there country in todays HUGE events like IMPULZE ect...
ah, so i did miss a minor bit of information and it has only just clicked...der :oops: (no really, it only just has!)
i just thought the other tracks were lame.
did wonder what Boogie Pimps was doing in there.....
i now feel very dumb & boy have a i made myself look stoopid!
but still, if i were me mixing the CD, i would have said no, cos the tracks suck imo. I still think C & J 's motivation behind the CD is self promotion, i wouldnt have thought Mark or Mick would have mixed such shocking material.
ahh and now the penny has just droped on the sample clearance stuff too.....
im going home.....:oops:
should stop the drugs aswell, i never used to be this thick!
OK, so i got wrong end of stick.......
but i never slated the UK hardstyle scene at any point! i was hoping to defend the fuker cos its so rubbish at the moment and the likes of Cally and Juice making this CD only added to my concern that hardstyle was/is going down hill - the hardstyle based tracks on the CD are not the best and ones we have slated in the past for being cheesey and not the kind of thing we want representing hardstyle....
hahahaha....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay M
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: LMFAOQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay M
:doh:
Very well said m8, i cant believe people r still goin on about this its rediculous. I agree with what ur saying this CDs main sale of purpous is on shelves such as HMV and WoolworthsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dj Sanders
and not in local underground shops. I know these guys and these two have a real love for the music, whats done is done theres no point in carryin on this useless discussion because it isnt gettin any of us anywhere.
Was this CD made last minute as it wasn't mentioned on the TV adverts and I thought that a bonus CD would be a massive selling point??
bloody hell what a thread :shock:
well i havent heard the cd and i dont know much about hardstyle but what i will say is the guys are very brave to play their style of music in london at hard dance events.
its not everyones cup of tea but gives clubbers an idea of what else there is on offer.
i think if some of you hardstyle peeps have such a problem with cally & juice instead of slagging them off go and make the effort to have a chat with them and tell them your feelings on this subject.
they are nice guys and im sure they will listen to your opinions.
i have had some amazing times with cally and juice.
in fact they even saw me in my underpants last week :lol: :oops:
i will say this. cally and juice have been in the scene for a long, long time. they do their thing, they love what they do and they do contribute to the 'non-commercial' club scene in such a massive, massive way. i have so much damn respect for them. nukleuz have picked them up and i wish them all the success in the world. i'm not personally on their musical trip 100% but they do play alot of what I really like and they have the utmost respect for underground music and the rave and hard trance scene.
i respect both of them for all the support they've given me (chances to play in much of south wales) over the last god knows how many years. sure, they're not everyone's cup of tea, but were it not for them there would be no or very little hard trance/hardstyle in south wales.
i say stop the hating - if you think you can do it better then well, get up there and do it ;) :lol:
well put there mark ;)
cally's safe as FCUK!!!
an as for the south wales hard dance scene...... if it wasnt 4 BIONIC / BREATHE there would be FCUK ALL!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Well said Mark they are great guys and have helped me out one hell of a lot i agree theyre music isnt always 100% but they do luv what theyre doin, theyre good entertainers and im all for it. Ur set was slammin down Breathe friday and Sharkey on the mic with u was absolutely awsome one of the best crowd reactions ive seen in Breathe.Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK EG
I didn't say that they arnent popular or nice people, stop twisting it.
I just read what i put :doh:
i didnt mean it like u said they werent nice ;) im just a bit fcuked at the moment :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Im sure they are nice people and sure South Wales would be dead for events if they did'nt have there night there.
People have got to stop taking criticism so personally, I'm not here to make C&J feel bad or ruin there careers/reputation etc.
I'm just another anorak who'a always got something to say, too many people are too quick to jump on my back with a knife to my throat because I say I don't think what they do is good.
End of...this convo bored me a long time ago.
compltley agree there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~cheeky~
they are the nicest guys to talk to. they are really sound!!! like a few of you have said on here i dont like all there style but there r lots of tracks i do like.
they always play a variety of music. IMO they always adapt to the night. for example last friday was basically a hardstyle night at breathe. and i loved them they were BANGING!!! when technoboy played i loved them aswell AWSUM.
but b4 they had loads of hardhouse DJ's in evo, cant remember the names of the djs but they were hardhouse and i didnt really like them cos im not into hardhouse. but they always adapt to the style of the night. which IMO i think is really good.
well done i say!!
Quite simply...Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK EG
What the fu*k?! :lol:
at least they didnt see you out your underpants .......!Quote:
Originally Posted by Si the Sigh
ha ha! Yea man, thats true!! :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol:
well i wernt jumping on yer back.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
i said what i said in general,just my thoughts on the subject
Mate - u went, searched out their forum and then the thread they posted about the CD they were asked to do and called them sellouts and cheesy as fcuk............and made more derogatary posts when one of em explained what the CD was about to u.................. :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
alright 'having strong annorak feelings and being open of ur thoughts on the internet' or whatever is one thing...........
but if u feel strongly that you really have to air your points as u say you do, then don't be surprised if people feel strongly back when your not going about things in the soundest of ways........u think only u have the right to be a kent about things?
anyways.......as u say - best to leave this un alone now ;)
yer i thought that was out of order. yer everyone has their own opinions, but to go on their forum and say that on the thread which they r talking bout their cd was bad.
1) I have been a member on that forum for a while now.
2) Didn't search it out to just slate the CD
3) What's wrong with saying that you don't like the CD to the people themselves? I expect all artists & DJ'sa have to deal with people coming on they're own site and saying that they don't like something they do.
4) I apologised for the harshness involved in my initial threads.
..... :roll:
i reckon this needs to be locked now, not much else to say
YEAH THERES LOADS MORE TO BE SAID ;) LIKE.......
LOCK THE THREAD :lol: :lol:
why lulu, cos there your frineds...pffff....Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu
look everyone's entitled an opinion. corbzy, you're an opinionated guy mate but that's why we love you (although sometimes i do have to watch you ya bastard hahaha)
but remember everyone - this is the internet, it's so easy to be nasty - not so easy to be constructive ;)
this site is about being constructive. no easy comments behind computer screens here please.
ok i think i'll lock this. enough has been said eh.