the true legends are the residents the world over. week in week out, they are there without fail. paid piss all & never fail to show.
i salute them all :clap: techno, jungle, hip hop or house... whatever. THESE ppl are legends.
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the true legends are the residents the world over. week in week out, they are there without fail. paid piss all & never fail to show.
i salute them all :clap: techno, jungle, hip hop or house... whatever. THESE ppl are legends.
:clap: :clap: - Well fukcing said.Quote:
Originally Posted by perpetual
Yes mate :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:Quote:
the true legends are the residents the world over. week in week out, they are there without fail. paid piss all & never fail to show.
i salute them all techno, jungle, hip hop or house... whatever. THESE ppl are legends.
Couldn`t be more true :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
mine would be
1) the voodoo at le bateau...unbelievable club....back when i was 15/16 this was the place to be...while everyone around me leavin school and that was gettin into scouse house and happycore....i was in here seein what a real good time is!
2) mark eg & ribbz...sorry...but if it wasnt for mark & ribbzy i may well never have found techno....back in the days when i went to every helter skelter...mark & sean were practically the only dj most of the time playing techno in the technodrome....and it took me away from bein a 15 year old happycore lover into someone amazed at this sound that was coming from the technodrome speakers....legend
3) dj rush....say what you like about rush....hes a ****in legend...his set in the voodoo in 2002 was quite possibly the best 2 hours ive ever been in a club...hes incredible....just fierce stormin techno....just what i like!
1) Dave Clarke - The mix he did in Melbourne 2001 changed me forever. Yeah sure he loves wearin leather pants n shitt but who cares. When he wants to, he rocks the crowd like no other, though i have seen some of his sets that sucked.
2)Vitalic - That pony ep just opened up a million doors in my brain. I can't even begin to describe the inspiration that ep gives me. Even my sister likes his tracks and she hates techno. Everyone loves Vitalic...don't they?
Lawrie Immersion - He just produces the most amazing music. I can't imagine more perfect techno. He should b locked up :)
sorry for postin again but i gotta give special mention to 3 other artists.
Vangelis - At the end of the film Blade Runner when the credits r rollin, that vangelis track just sounds amazing. when i was a kid in the 80's, i saw that film once and that track just sounded like the future.
The movie 'the warriors' - the music that plays throughout the film the warriors is also like future techno music or something. It's just perfect and it's made in like 1978.
Tangerine Dream - In the film 'the sorceror' starring Roy Scheider (dude from Jaws and Sea quest), Tangerine Dream just make the most amazing music. I can't describe it.
These 3 moments in my life were the beginning of techno for me.
Well being from California and fairly new to playing techno (about 3 years) my influences aren't as old-school.
Julian Liberator - First acid techno dj I ever saw, I saw him perform in San Francisco with Chris and Aaron, this was around the time of the earlier 4x4 releases and I had never heard anything like this set before. Being a trance dj at the time it made me realize that Techno was just more quality and had a "bigger" sound than Trance. This was the best set I've ever seen hands down.
Chris Liberator - Saw him blow it up with Aaron and Julian and got turned on to my favorite label of the first few years I played techno, Maximim Minimum. "Process Yellow" was my favorite track for about a year!
D.A.V.E. the Drummer - Once I was turned on to the SUF family of labels I started checking out his releases and getting turned on to tracks with more funk to them. I never thought electronic music could be so funky and driving at the same time.. amazing!
1) Lawrie Immersion - No one made acid techno like the stuff he produced. The early Routemasters are fu*king awesome! None of his tunes seem to age IMO. I still go completely mental when I hear tracks like Piston, Sonar, Lock, In the forehead, etc; He seems to be able to turn his hand to all forms of techno & be amazing.
2) Helter Skelter's Technodrome - Ok, I know its not a DJ, and its only a room, but it was legendary and I heard some amazing sets there over the years, from Lenny Dee & Producer's sounds right through to Aztec & Ribbzy and M-Zone & Mark EG.
3) All at Stay Up Forever - Henry, Chris, Guy, Ant, Aaron, etc. all produce quality music, are top blokes & are like a little techno family & thats what the scene needs more of IMO.
For once I agree wholeheartedly with MARK EG. Atkins, Mills, Aphex. Just about every strain of techno can be traced back to these people.
Anyone who mentioned Glenn Wilson, Mark EG, Immersion, any of the Liberators or DAVE the Drummer is either very badly informed or just living up to the BOA policy of unashamed sycophancy. No matter how much you like them, these people are completely insignificant in the context of this thread.
thats a bit harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
surely everyone is entitled to form their own opinions. just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean they're badly informed.
What do opinions have to do with it? Of course if someone lists DTD, Liberator and Immersion as the top 3 techno legends, it's because they don't know what they're on about.Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
Who the fu*k are you to knock what myself & others have typed? The people I mentioned got me into techno, so that makes them pretty legendary in my books.Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
if you read what mark has put, it says 'who are YOUR real legends'.
so people have written who 'THEIR' legends are.
what gives you the right to come in and say they're wrong?
its not about who's right and who's wrong. i'm sure the point of this thread was for people to share their opinions with others, not for everyone to come to a decision.
Exactly! :clap:
Not exactly at all.
The title of the thread is "Top three legends of techno?". MARK EG did not say "who are YOUR real legends" anywhere that I can see. He did say "who are you real legends" but that's meaningless. He also said "I just mean from the last 20 years. People who changed the face of music. List only three.". So I repeat, anyone who listed DTD, Liberator, Immersion etc, simply does not know what they're talking about. None of those people have changed the face of music. A temporary zit, perhaps.
And Si, who am I to knock what you and others have typed? Someone who isn't as ignorant as you and others, I suppose.
that was obviously a spelling mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
as far as i can see, you're the only ignorant one around here.
i havent posted in this thread because quite simply i havent liked techno long enough to decide who my real legends are. but if i'm quite honest, its people like yourself who deter me from posting in this thread and this section.
why does this snobbery have to exist? at the end of the day we all love music. who cares that someone elses taste is different to mine?
why cant people be a bit more open-minded?
juan atkins
tony surgeon
toky and dalo
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Originally Posted by kitten
if they were, this wouldnt be a techno forum would it? ;)
It has nothing to do with snobbery and nothing to do with taste. It's a question of understanding the point of the thread. If you get all upset because someone points out a few facts you'd probably benefit from staying off forums and communicating with humans altogether, as this happens quite a lot. It's part of the thing we call life.
Or pretentious, or egotistical, or born old skool like you must have been :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
Really? Do you want to explain why you see me and 'others' as ignorant? You do that, and I'll explain why I think YOU have an attitude problem. Why do you feel the need to say that anyone who has listed DAVE the Drummer, Lawrie Immersion, Chris Liberator, etc; doesn't know what they are talking about? Your comments always seem to be challenging someones views, like you want an arguement all the time. I typed who I see as legendary, the people & places that changed my life. Its is MY opinion. I am aloud opinions & I am aloud my own views, same as you and everyone else. YOU have your own opinions on who you see as legenday. I'm not going to diss you for what you type, so why feel the need to diss me and 'others' about what we feel on the subject matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
I read that as 'Who are YOUR real legends?'Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK EG
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Originally Posted by Si the Sigh
too easy.
Explain then!!
It's because they are not the top 3 legends within techno, and they have not changed the face of music, they have just added to the pile that gathers beneath those who actually have changed the face of music. Therefore, anyone who cites them as the top 3 legends in techno DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Understand now???
so you think it is a 'fact' to say that someone is badly informed and a sycophant (sp)?Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
I'm sorry but I think you're the one who has misunderstood the point of the thread.
And furthermore I find your comments very insulting and belittling. This section can be daunting enough for someone like me who isnt as 'clued-up' about techno, without your pretentious attitude.
Sir yes sir! :roll:
That was for Mr Death on a Stick by the way, not you Kitten! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Si the Sigh
maybe they are legends of london squat party techno.
london really has f*ck all to do with pure techno at this point.....
:rambo: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Si the Sigh
Yea they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
Is this going to go off on a "purist" techno tangent? :roll: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
LONDON IS A JOKE.
:eh:
seriously though. almost all the people go out and order champagne so they can look upper crusty, they go to some "superclub" and drop some of whatever the next trendy pill stamp is, and dance to jim masters and crap like this all night.
the rest go roll around in human waste in "squats" and listen to the next "big choon" with a 16 bar breakdown and some "clever" vocal sample from a film or tv show.... thinking all the while that they are sooooo underground.
London is a patchwork of rip offs from the worst segments of almost every culture.
If it's true, then yes, of course!! Why would it be anything else? What's the point of your question? If you feel insulted and belittled because I choose not to ignore the reality of a situation, I really don't think moaning at me about it is going to improve your perspective, or mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
and deafmosaic, I really don't need your support on this one. Going on about "pure" techno and saying London is a joke relegates you to the dummies' corner along with people who think Glenn Wilson is one of the top 3 legends in techno.
Whats the problem with London / Acid techno? It got me listening to other forms of techno. It was a stepping stone for me.
who said i was supporting you? shit, you can eat polla too for all i care. :love:
btw, "relegates" ??????
OK thanks.
rel·e·gate
tr.v. rel·e·gat·ed, rel·e·gat·ing, rel·e·gates
To assign to an obscure place, position, or condition.
To assign to a particular class or category; classify.
To refer or assign (a matter or task, for example) for decision or action.
To send to a place of exile; banish.
Dave Clarke :- Got me into techno in 2000, am yet to hear him play a bad set.
Surgeon:- For his ableton live/ final scratch sets, possible some of the best sets i have ever heard.
Jeff mills:- Wasnt really a massive fan and thought he was highly over rated until sonar.
Right now how interesting was that? Am sure everyone of those names have appeared in this post 3 or more times each. Fair play to everyone who has listed Glen wilson or the Liberators, and although they may not be a legend to everyone they still may be to some people.
I did not notice your top 3 techno legends death on a stick?
I see you make it over here quite alot then aye ...Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
You should probably pay more attention then, but don't worry, you're not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie
Whoever got you into techno seems slightly irrelevent to me. In fact, this whole thread should probably have been locked after the first post, as MARK EG already answered his own question!
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Originally Posted by death on a stick
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I could try and explain the point of the thread til I'm blue in the face death on a stick, but you've already made your mind up so what would be the point?
it seems to me that you're just looking for an argument, in which case i'm not going to participate further in this thread. I come on here to chat to like-minded people, not argue.
Word!
It may be irrelavant to you but it is not to me, he introduced me to techno so he will always be a legend in my books, so who are YOUR legends? All i have seen you do is slate people for what they have put and agree with mark on the detroit boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
Jeeez!!! Let me try and spell it out for you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie
I agreed with MARK EG because Atkins, Mills and Aphex are the top 3 "legends" within the field of techno. Aphex is not a "detroit boy", he's from Cornwall...but along with Mills and Atkins you can take just about any modern techno record and work your way back to one of these 3 people. That's it. What Dave Clarke or Laurie Immersion or Geezer or any of the industrial bods or Sven Vath or whoever else did is all very much secondary to this. Who your favourite producer, or whichever DJ introduced you to techno is entirely IRRELEVANT.
These are the people who have had the biggest influence on techno as it is today. Arguably Mills has shaped techno more than any other person, but Atkins paved the way. Aphex exploded the whole thing completely. They all did this many years ago, and to an extent everyone else is following in their footsteps, however much individuality they are doing it with.
Top Three Legends
Subhead
Frankie Bones
Saskia Slegers
You could say that the likes of Steve Reich, Stockhausen deserve a legendry status. Fair play I guess it’s easier to categorize these people as legends of 'electronic music' but they did set the ball rolling for the likes of Jeff Mills and so on. Shit how about Kraftwerk? :lol: Jeff Mills took the previous ‘electronic music’ influences and helped style a genre of techno
Underground Resistance shaped a sound of there own. Not sure how long they have been around for mind you?
Aphex twin took the rule book and reinvented it. Has he been around that long tho? Seriously I dont know. How long has he been around? Pioneer or legend? Or does it matter?
:doh:
I would like to add Joey Beltram to this list. I think his contribution to the techno scene in the late eighties and early nineties deserves a mention.
Aphex is both. His first record came out in 1991 I think, and still sounds incredible, far better than anything the London acid scene has ever produced. His stuff in the late 90s and since has been patchy to say the least, but his seeds were already sown, we hear his influence in a huge segment of all electronic/techno music in one way or another, and that's why he has that status.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Divide