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SPEEDY J @ ATOMIC JAM 2002 (I THINK)
THIS was the best techno performance (live, 2 x yamaha's, so ok NOT really DJ'ing) I have ever seen, if you were there? Hawtin came out after and as much as I rate the guy his set/performance was pathetic. The place just empty'd. Speedy J was just TO GOD DAMN GOOD !
you can if he doesn't do it for you, which is likely what miro was saying. no accounting for taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by rca
i stopped buying liebings "so called productions" as soon as i heard this. (coupled with the fact that this guy sits at the money end of techno)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
i dont like being taken for a ride. if i hear of any so called producers who follow the same route i shall not be purchasing their records either. i dont enjoy being ripped off.
to get somebody else to make music for you, and take all the credit falls nothing short of pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Sunil
And this is why I love Sunil.
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I totally agree. Whats worse is when they rip off/sample unknown artists too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col
Renato Cohen (this guy is a gun dj)
Dave Clarke
Adam Beyer
Ben Sims
Dave the Drummer
Jeff Mills
Samuel L Sessions
Top producers who are very consistant dj's
Surgeon (even tho he hasnt even touched decks in about a year, or practised on them)
James Ruskin
Ben Sims
Grovskopa
Dave Clarke
ruskin has to stick out for me. boy can he produce and bang it out. Oscar mulero too. Love his productions and he is one of the best dj's i have seen. Paul damage as mentioned is a very good producer and dj. love his beat scratching. Adam beyer. good dj on his day. about 3 years ago i rwally loved his sets. beyer and corola at the orbit was ace. Love his older stuff and has pionered hard tribally looped techno for me.
forgot to mention mullero. deffinantly top notchQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiptoe
for jochem, u may be right, but i had read that he had come from a hip hop djing background. hence the name spee- dj, :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by g
might be just a story though.
that's correct.
Why thanks, but what's with the two dudes? You trying to imply something?!Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Not at all mate, feeling guilty? :lol:
geez, got some time on your hands or what!!
3 producers ive met that can really dj are:
Henry Cullen
Chris Liberator
Simon Coyle
and with all 3, i only truly understand their productions after seeing them mix in the flesh, and boy can they mix records.
even Chris playing Acid, i honestly had no idea what acid was about until i saw and heard him playing it.
but these guys are legends, and not every dj is a producer and vice versa.
i dont think they have to go together at all. keeps things interesting.
I haven't heard any of Simon Coyles music. Can you post any links to clips or names?
well kind of, those guys deserve much better than me, I think you'd be just the man Sam ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
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green velvet
trevor rockliffe
charles siegling
dj rolando
adam beyer
ben sims
cave
dj preach
cristian varela
valentino kanzayani
rino cerrone
marco carola
miro forgot to metion carl cox ... im no into his stuf but he will still remain a good dj for me (for all that he's done)..... but he also has the reputation of a really bad producer.
renato cohen ?? heard him playing the whole ben sims discography during 3 hours, with pontape in the middle. i dont call that a good dj.
I have to pick the obvious choice, I'm afraid. It's Hawtin all the way. Some incredible productions, both as single tracks and complete albums, and there is no doubt that the guy can mix. Absolute legend.
Here is the actual question from the 1st post in this thread.
Just to stop the endless lists of everybodies favourite DJ/Producers from turning into one of those "100 greatest" tv things on channel 4
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Q: Why is it, so many producers (techno,house,trance..) are able to produce consistantly fantastic music but yet cannot get to grips with the concepts of being a great dj, even though they attempt it and fail? I have a concept and I think I know why this is/happens, but I'd rather read what other people think first...
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
because djing is about entertaining people and being able to show skill and caracter by choosing records to play to a fussy audience in a very scary enviroment.
producing is about having coolo ideas in a studio while you sip you tea smoke a joint and discuss techno
they are not at all the same thing and anyone who thinks they are is completely misktaken.
however if a producer has already carved a carrer as a dj and has learnt to produce as an added bonus and just become good at it then this works well as added promotion etc.
also a producer can just as easily discover that they can mix fairly well.
but essentially the main thing is not whether you can mix but can you really stand up there , be better than the residents , choose your tunes well and mix confidently in front of what can be a nightmare of audience
that's the test of a dj i.mo. and theres not many people who can do that who DON'T produce let alone the small number who can do both.
and now a list of all my favourite producers:
Grovskopa!
Back in the beginnig of the dance scene DJs were just DJ's and producers were just producers, now its all about what your name is. If you make good records that everyone likes youve got an instant demo CD to prospective bookers. Many DJs are booked on this 'name' thing and not a lot of them can mix or even own decks im sure?
Its a pity as good DJs dont get anywhere unless they make great tracks - ie. DJ Jerome - must of been THE number one techno DJ in London, but coz he doesnt make GREAT tracks (no offence I love em!) hes not up there where he should be with the Liebings and Mills of this world.
I am just a DJ, but feel I need to make tracks to get my 'name' out there or else continue to DJ at the long list of barbecues, wedding and free parties which ive played for more than 10 years.
Its all about being a BIG NAME now, when it all used to be about the DJ, now the producer has the upper hand and he controls the way the scene goes now. Fair play, Im just waiting for the emphasis to rest with the DJ again - hopefully when it comes full-circle and dance music is back in vogue in around 10 years when i'll be at my peak at 42!!!!!
Only a few have great skills at both, and i must say first time i heard Dave The Drummer DJ (instead of live set), when I used to play at the country club near Yeovil I had to take my hat off to him as he knew how to do both well.
Doesn't really answer the question, but at least I never put me top 10 in!!!! :lol:
By the way Ive seen peoples list of favorite DJs before and some of them have included people who dont play turntables!!!
Hooray, back on track.
Good answers from Henry and mr Swales.
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Just as an asside, book Swales if you are a promoter, the man is a proper DJ, he plays records really well, to a very high standard, and puts on a damn good performance. Henry don`t need props, cos we all know he does the Job.
uh. the only really really good dj & producer that I have heard playing lately is Mulero.
I like my vogel + tarrida stuff so you can proably guess why I cant name anymore. :crackup:
Luka Baumann.
Oh god, here we go, More lists of names for no reason.
Might as well join in then.
Fred Dibnah
Max Wall
Doogal
Susan Sarandon
Terry Gilliam
Barny Rubble
Jo Guest
Charlton and the Wheelies
Tommy Cooper
Jurgen Prochnow
Max Von Sydow
Charles Manson
Missus Tiggywinkle
Bob a Job
Ridley Scot
Berk from Trap Door
Peter Sellers
Dr Tooth
Sny Snootles
Red Adair
Audrey Hepburn
Homer Simpson
Katie Price
David sodding Beckham
and
Surgeon.
fred dibnah :lol: that man is class
sure he's got his own show on a sunday bout steam engines or somethin....Quote:
Originally Posted by dan the acid man
yeah, he used to be a steeple jack, and blow up buildings :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Traxx
yeah i always remember i used to watch those shows of him blowing buildings up with me dad when i was a nipper.... memories eh :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dan the acid man
fred dibnah is the original king of techno
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
no doubt ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
Jazzy Jeff
i agree totally with whoever said Richie Hawtin. He tops both of these catorgaries IMO. also Trevor Rockliffe, James Ruskin, Deetron and Marco Carola spring to mind. all great dj's and producers.
Redhead, Mark EG, Ben Sims..
That Mark EG sucks
OK my three?
Joey Beltram
Jeff Mills
Dave Angel
keeps going really...
Oh god, there's so many more. I don't even know why I just posted that hahaha. :oops: :oops:
joey beltram is an amazing producer.. you cant say hes a brilliand dj though...only average .just my opinion.
total respect for the guy though ;)
totally missed jeff mills though :oops:
well he was when i used to see him at orbit and the whole crowd went nuts. i suppose my goal posts have changed since then :) but i havent heard him for at least 10 yrs.
MARIO PICOTTO
SCOOTER
TIDY BOYS
All wicked DJ's and can play a multitude of styles yeah?.
I've probably been to at least 10 or sp parties who have hosted Hawtin, unfortunately I have never remembered any of his sets...which sorta annoyed me after a while, you know paying bucks to see someone and getting too off guts to remember anything other than arriving and waking up in some weird and foreign situation.
Look this is a techno forum. Can we please keep these sort of post out of here :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiddlypeep
^^^ What's with Picotto, seems too be mentioned ALOT in these threads and I do not understand as to why?
i was more thinking the other two :lol: