Re: Jeff Mills interview - I make mixing mistakes almost eve
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Originally Posted by djshiva
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Originally Posted by oldbugger
:dontevengothere: :nono:
he's not good no..
theres a bit more to mills than that though...some respect is needed IMO
i was going to say the same as you about it should read 'every mix' and its true..
BUT
hes a legend and very influential..done a lot for techno
show some respect
i have always said i give respect for his contributions to techno, but even the legends have the tendency to rest on their laurels sometimes and
forget the hunger that made them good in the first place.
when yer an upcoming dj, you have that hunger and that drive to be good every time you play. i think sometimes people who get into a comfortable position tend to forget that drive when that's really what made them so damn good.
plus, if everyone around you is a damn yes man telling you that you rocked it when you sounded like shoes in a dryer, i think it tends to make one lose the plot.
all i'm saying is that i would never in a million years pay money to see mills spin. ever. and i have played mixes of his to people WITHOUT telling them who he is, and asked them if they would go see this dj, and the response was usually "that guy would be lucky to play for gas money". these same people would spooge all over themselves if they saw mills on a flyer.
i think that's funny. sue me.
thats my thought on not just mills, so many djs nowadays....the scne needs a good kick up the arse in that repect....
its like football(or anythig most likly)...sure pele, maradonna were fukin amazing in there day but cmon they couldnt play against the new up and comin folks now.......
i cant belive somefolk need to be told he makes mistakes....i know this....and it aint just him.....ive heard many a shoddy set form folk that are classed as "the best".....its laughable but at the same time very bad i think for the scene.
Re: Jeff Mills interview - I make mixing mistakes almost eve
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Originally Posted by gumpy green
ive heard many a shoddy set form folk that are classed as "the best".....its laughable but at the same time very bad i think for the scene.
Sorry Grumpy, can’t disagree with you more here. I think these guys are GREAT for the scene. Sure, you can argue that the “Big Names” like mills, hawtin, etc. are not as fantastically talented as people pump them up to be. But, at the end of the day these guys sell out shows and bring in a more mainstream crowd while still playing quality music. People go to see the “Big Names’” play who really aren’t that into techno in the first place. And this, ultimately, will expose new people to techno, which I can’t see as a bad thing at all—especially with record sales down as well as event attendance.
And let’s be honest with ourselves, when these guys drop a bad mix the only people who really notice are us jaded techno folk. Everyone else on the floor is still having fun and a goodtime while hopefully gaining interest in the music they’re being exposed to. i can't see that as being bad for techno as a scene.
Re: Jeff Mills interview - I make mixing mistakes almost eve
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Originally Posted by gumpy green
its like football(or anythig most likly)...sure pele, maradonna were fukin amazing in there day but cmon they couldnt play against the new up and comin folks now.......
You having a laugh? :eh:
Re: Jeff Mills interview - I make mixing mistakes almost eve
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Originally Posted by Traxx
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Originally Posted by gumpy green
its like football(or anythig most likly)...sure pele, maradonna were fukin amazing in there day but cmon they couldnt play against the new up and comin folks now.......
You having a laugh? :eh:
yup just on a wee wind up...we stir up to get the debate going..... but i think its true to some extent...
i honstly would rather see someone like say chris finke than mills......choose him as an example cos ther both mixing 3dekz(similar mixin styles)
Re: Jeff Mills interview - I make mixing mistakes almost eve
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Originally Posted by gumpy green
yup just on a wee wind up...we stir up to get the debate going..... but i think its true to some extent...
Good lad :lol:
Re: Jeff Mills interview - I make mixing mistakes almost eve
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Originally Posted by drift9
Sorry Grumpy, can’t disagree with you more here. I think these guys are GREAT for the scene. Sure, you can argue that the “Big Names” like mills, hawtin, etc. are not as fantastically talented as people pump them up to be. But, at the end of the day these guys sell out shows and bring in a more mainstream crowd while still playing quality music. People go to see the “Big Names’” play who really aren’t that into techno in the first place. And this, ultimately, will expose new people to techno, which I can’t see as a bad thing at all—especially with record sales down as well as event attendance.
And let’s be honest with ourselves, when these guys drop a bad mix the only people who really notice are us jaded techno folk. Everyone else on the floor is still having fun and a goodtime while hopefully gaining interest in the music they’re being exposed to. i can't see that as being bad for techno as a scene.
i would actually disagree. i have met many folks who heard some big techno headliner (i will be more general rather than keep harping on mills) suck, and now they think they don't like techno. let's face it: techno mixed badly is prolly one of the more boring things i can think of, and many people who hear a shit set keep that in their head. i think that damages techno as a whole. i can't tell you how many people i have talked to who thought they didn't like techno until they actually heard a good set (usually by some local hotshot dj and not a big name).
and anyone who thinks people who go out dancing can't figure out when a dj is trainwrecking...sorry...anyone who has some semblance of rhythm can tell when the horses start galloping. you don't have to be a dj to know shit when u hear it. anything that throws a dancer off their groove, they can tell...believe me.
no respect for jeff at all(and for many more,hehehe)
i dont give a **** about this kind of superstar dj.... he gets 8000 euros for a couple of hours and he is just ****ing bad playing ...for not to talk about his produccions like his last ****ing lie"exhibisionist" o whatever he called it.....please if we cover this kind of guys he just will be up there when he doesnt worth it at all ....self respect for the true djs
Re: no respect for jeff at all(and for many more,hehehe)
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Originally Posted by DJmorti
i dont give a **** about this kind of superstar dj.... he gets 8000 euros for a couple of hours and he is just **** bad playing ...for not to talk about his produccions like his last **** lie"exhibisionist" o whatever he called it.....please if we cover this kind of guys he just will be up there when he doesnt worth it at all ....self respect for the true djs
With an attitude like that, will you ever get respect yourself?
Mills isn`t exactly Britney Spears, he`s a champion for techno and has kept the faith longer than some techno kids have been alive.
Whether on a good day or not, he has spawned an army of imitators both in production and in DJ-ing, and like it or not, his contribution to techno, and his intelligence and philosophy has to a certian respect, helped keep this music alive.
Re: no respect for jeff at all(and for many more,hehehe)
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Originally Posted by DJmorti
i dont give a **** about this kind of superstar dj.... he gets 8000 euros for a couple of hours and he is just **** bad playing ...for not to talk about his produccions like his last **** lie"exhibisionist" o whatever he called it.....please if we cover this kind of guys he just will be up there when he doesnt worth it at all ....self respect for the true djs
Jaysus, that's a bit harsh innit? True enough, I wasn't at all impressed with the exhibitionist and I was surprised he could release something like that, but I'd still hold the man in very high regard.
And why would people not talk about his productions, even in a conversation about his DJing? In case you hadn't noticed, the majority of international DJs who regularly get booked, get booked for their production merits. Usually they will have to be decent DJs too, but on the international scene, no releases = no bookings, simple as that. Also, the man's contribution to the scene has been not only through his work behind the decks, but in the studio too, and a massive contribution it has been, hence the fact that he is a household name amongst lovers of any kind of dance music whatsoever.
And as he says in his interview, he makes mistakes, but the trick is to be able to correct those mistakes as professionally and unnoticeably as possible and press on and redeem yourself through the set. The way he fixes mistakes is actually one of the things that amazes me about him (DJ wise). He's like no other.
Big up ya Jeff Mills!
