Glenn Wilson - Heroes 6

yea but then this is what frustrates me dirty and i dont mean this as an insult but you are talking of change, i mean ask yourself does the scene need another 2 tracks like this then ?

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF167649-01-01-01.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF167649-01-02-01.mp3

and iam not isolating these for any reason ive checked and it’s still a case of ditto. Absolutely no dig at Jeff because he’s a killer guy and wicked dj but iam just trying to validate my point or should id say rather validate your point, but its like there’s a bleating on here again and again from you about the saving of a scene and then you are doing the opposite by fuelling its demise with the above, like i said absolutely no insult intended here but what you bleating about and doing really isn’t that much different....In an ideal world what your saying is probably a global utopia for producers n listeners in some ways i agree. But even the way you compress the way you eq, the room will give you a sound that’s hard to drop that’s even if you want to drop it at present i don’t. iam not looking for an admiring clan of followers patting me on the back for what or what i don’t do because iam on my own personal journey, my tunes are my drug if people get the trip along the way and it floats there boats that’s a bonus. but i want to build an identity if iam getting cloned by other producers why should i be the Sheppard to change the path of the so called "quoted" sheep. As a great quote goes from who i consider one of the most talented producers i know "only dead fish follow the stream" maybe my advice to constant production questions has been my downfall to a cloned gw sound, am i bother? no because i like to help and if in giving this knowledge it means I have to share my stage fine. Do i claim to be an innovator probably not, if others want to class me fine, ive just been fortunate to earn off my passion. or may i rephrase that "survive" off my passion.......i have never charged more than £400 for a remix even though some of my productions have sold in excess of 7000 units, but if they had sold 700 I would have been equally as proud of them. In the past ive been quoted 4500 euro by producers for remixes that we now know had engineers to bring there ideas or not as the case may be to reality, is this not a bigger crime as like the dj’s who have annihilating the scene by demanding 5k a gig week in week out or should we put court techno into recess...

But Magnetics A1 has no reference to anything really ive done before ah yea sorry its 4/4 before the off beat break, some might even label it house, but feel free to take the reins and be the Sheppard and ill check back in 6 months when its lambing season to see what greener pastures you have found......

The original title of the open source track (which is not my label) was called "is this all you want?" and it was me spending 2 hours making a hard, crunchy track as a kind of protest.
Who`d of thought it would get released?
It`s hardly a measure of my production output.

If you check these, you`ll see that no tune sounds the same.
I`m not claiming to be the best producer in the world, but I do everything I can to be creative, and stay away from repeating myself if I can.

http://www.iterativemusic.com/~dirty...ifted%20me.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~dirty...%20nothing.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~dirty...omes%20joy.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~dirty...n_my_Ocean.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~dirty...lack_Lodge.mp3

If someone chooses to release a track by me, it`s up to them.
My own output on my own label is entirely up to me, and I am choosing to take risks now, and do different things.
I am starting a new label specifically for this purpose, so I would say I am putting my money where my mouth is, and not bleating at all.
You compare my comments to one record.

I`m not looking to lead anyone or shepard anyone. I`ve always made music for myself, and if anyone else likes it then cool, but either way, I`ll keep on doing it.
I would like to see people push themselves creatively, across the board, and I think we all need people to throw a spike at us to wake us up sometimes.
You can attack me too, well, you have, and great, I don`t hate you for it, and I don`t bear a grudge, hopefully we can both learn something.

I`m glad this conversation has happened, and I really don`t bear any ill towards you at all man. But I think it is good to have more communication within the scene, above the usual, "your great, I think your great, listen to my demo, shit"

If everyone just rolled over and kissed ass, this scene would be even more stagnent than it already is.

We can disagree, but still be on the same side.
:love: :cool:

:shock: Serious talk going on here ;)

the links wont work for me, none the less i could uplaod the same way to air my unheard side, respect to you choosing to air your diverse side on vinyl, i choose not to because its a path i dont wanna take at present, but is it truly worth the 1 liner constant comments? i think if we went through this forum and took away the ditto ditto dittto ditto post we could narrow it down to about 50 threads

hehe
true.

yeah that is true

yep, definilty true..

...in fact.. no, ive thought about it and its just not true

yep

who`s your favourite dj

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

who`s your favourite dj

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Tiger Tim!.

Maybe I can arrange a meeting of minds for you two if you're up to it.

Why not. I`m game,

it's now become pitiful.

now i like the way this post has gone. some of the comments here have really, really got me thinking. to me, history means everything - glenn has a huge histroy, one that i've followed since the first ever planet rhythm release way, way back. and on internet forums ppl with alot less history and track records are always quick to critisize. this really REALLY annoys me because half of these ppl are bedroom DJ's or wanna be producers with 0 release and their comments are totally unconstructive and totally way out of order. call it jealousy if you will. and that's what truly gets my back up. but the thing here and it's something, i really think is good about this forum, is that comments come up that really are trying to be constructive and that's very, very rare on the internet. sometimes you even think 'woooaahhh', but then you've got to remember we're all on the same team.

i really respect the way both dirty bass and glenn have handled this. i know you well g and i think a commment like 'this is not going forward' or 'this is like the way guy mccaffer's stuff has gone' is gonna dig at you. cause at the end of the day, this is just not the way glenn thinks when he is in the studio. i know, i've been there.

but yes, we all have a responsibility to push this forward. and i genuinely believe most of us of particular 'track record' on this forum are trying to do this. i believe hereos 6 is a small step forward for glenn, not massive, but nice to get hereos back on track. but i also think the direction and sound that magnetics is at is HUGE. i've heard 2 of these releases now and i know where the label is trying to go. loopy formula shit NOT. money making same old same old NOT. there's a passion for difference there and you've got to just watch this label develop.

ok nice 1 guys for being so diplomatic. i just wish everyone was like this!!! make my job easier ;)

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In the past ive been quoted 4500 euro by producers for remixes that we now know had engineers to bring there ideas or not as the case may be to reality, is this not a bigger crime as like the dj’s who have annihilating the scene by demanding 5k a gig week in week out or should we put court techno into recess...

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Yes, totally. Too many DJ`s paying other people to make "their" music for them.

man, i didnt realise that happens in techno too.. care to name any names?

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Originally Posted by Jimfish

man, i didnt realise that happens in techno too.. care to name any names?

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I'd rather not hear who does this to be honest. The internet is an amazing tool and if names were mentioned then it could be construde as slanderous if proved incorrect.

Let's not go down that route as it achieves nothing apart from pointing fingers and name calling :nono:

Jumped the gun a bit there. I don`t think anyone was gonna name names.
I think most of us know anyway.

as long as the other person is named on the cover etc. no problem (see remus/liebing/kruse/bailey...etc.etc.etc.) or the "co"-producer doesn't want to appear in writing, ok.

coming to think of it, needing other people to whack loops together (which is the bizz, often enuff) :shock:

i'd prefer doing it myself, but the truth prolly is that many people with big names with lists of records have never turned a knob in the studio themselves...

these producers could/will benefit from the djing experiences those big names undoubtfully have, maybe two worlds coming together?

i mean, if you are a respected dj and would like (need?!) some releases accompanying this, would you whack out your first dodgy fruity-loops attempts??? can't afford to do so :!: and wait until you can? - aahh, no time's money ! :crackup:

.... i've probably had to much beer....

or: why is every good dj expected to be a good dj as well?

im just interested mate, id like to listen.. i couldnt give a flying **** what people do, but from a listening point of view i just think it would be interesting

i used to do a lot of this myself for people in other genres you see...

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Originally Posted by Jimfish

man, i didnt realise that happens in techno too.. care to name any names?

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i think marco bailey gets redhead & tom hades to do all his engineering, however don't qoute me on this as i have no actual evidence i just heard it off someone. However knowing this has really put me off his music

I heard you can smell bears period juice.

I think as was said above, we just drop the subject before any accusations start flying about.
If your gonna say something, get your facts right or discuss it with the person involved.

I heard that Mark EG is actually Fatboy Slim, and that Fatboy uses the name as a front to go mental because his missus likes him all sensible. I have no proof, but I heard this in about 97 in the toilets at Atomic Jam - the person who told me was sober and looked really smart, he could have been some kind of agent or something, didn't look like just anyone. This really put me off the music of Dave Angel.

sorry, i guess that question was a bit subversive.

ill go shave me head...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3...3_kevin300.jpg

Ohhhh it`s so unfair!!!

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touche!

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Well I really enjoyed the Turret track a lot. I’ll be going to buy this one when I do find it. Although it seems it is very hard to find on the US shores. So if someone knows where I can get it, please let me know.

ORDER FROM GLENN

it came yesterday, it is NASTY.
every bit a HEROES rec.