Multi Faceted Producers

Vitalic "Fanfares" wasn't a great record in my opinion, can't remember it all track by track, only that the long side was typical French, Daft Punk kind of sound.

You know the Hacker album very well. I listened a few times, but it didn't have the same effect as previous stuff by him, mainly because I'd heard it all before. He's a very good producer ,who is, by his own admission, putting a slant on styles (particularly 80's synth pop) that he likes. He hasn't struck me as too diverse an artist but in his defence he does make some great techno music, as opposed to just loops. Recently I've found his stuff a touch formulaic I have to say. I still like his sound but wouldn't mind to hear something a bit more forward thinking, or a break from the norm.

hacker has his own very distinct style, easy to recognize, but i think he's also a guy who plays around with his formula and doesn't just keep re-releasing the same loop repackaged...

I just wrote a detail reply to you Sunil but it didn't go through. Will follow later. By the way whats your favourite Hacker track and why?(Guessing Techno Sunset or tracks at the end of the melodies en soul?)

I suppose the obvious ones are people like Mark Broom, Carl Craig, Sterac and Luke Slater.
Surgeon can turn his hand to many styles as well... for me 'Balance' is one of the most complete techno 'albums' (in the traditional sense) I've heard. I really liked Johannes Heil's 'Illuminate the Planet' too... but for sheer multi-facetedness (?), I can't think of anyone better than Aphex Twin.

Definitely Paul Mac and Mark Broom :cool:

But you people are forgetting Claude Young (!!!)...from banging hard techno to soulful detroit beats!

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Originally Posted by Sunil

Vitalic "Fanfares" wasn't a great record in my opinion, can't remember it all track by track, only that the long side was typical French, Daft Punk kind of sound.

You know the Hacker album very well. I listened a few times, but it didn't have the same effect as previous stuff by him, mainly because I'd heard it all before. He's a very good producer ,who is, by his own admission, putting a slant on styles (particularly 80's synth pop) that he likes. He hasn't struck me as too diverse an artist but in his defence he does make some great techno music, as opposed to just loops. Recently I've found his stuff a touch formulaic I have to say. I still like his sound but wouldn't mind to hear something a bit more forward thinking, or a break from the norm.

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Vitalic was a great EP to me because:
Mainly because Candy was an asssoarer the other tracks were
Woo was soulful gameboy type synths but deep
Fanfare was a dreamy marching type sound

Which is diverse right? 3 tracks three different approaches
No I don't think its the French Daft Punk sound. Yes it is French Vitalic Techno sound but not House. Besides Homework had some Techno Tunes. There is 0 wrong with Daft Punk. They went poppy last time around a bit but they brought something different which is alot more then what we can say about some Techno artist. Main thing I can say about Vitalic is, if you want to bring a place alight, put that shit on. He is a ****kin legend. I mean didn't you say for harder heads check Manu Le Main remix. He also did some Acid Techno some mellow stuff and some trademark Vitalic metal techno and some great electro tracks.

Going back to the Hacker! Yes he is a great artist but if you don't like his new album fair enough. Maybe we see different things in it. 'He puts slant on 80's synth' Yep sure he is influenced by New Order, Depeche Mode, Front 242 but he mentions French Rave scene in 90's and Hardcore scene as his roots and what caused him to start developing his sound! Thats why you see dark undertones in his music, which is great. When he does 80's he does it with his trademark. That Mt Sims Track is nice. I really like good music no matter what the category(Only Electronic though :lol: ) I would say he totally changed his sound and gone completely different then what he has done before. Kind of like fukkinn Mozart in studio, put musical balance on Technology music, adding layers of song structure to it.

PS I love French Techno! I have done for years and look out for all the releases by them. I wasn't too keen on Caretta sound until couple of years ago when he massively improved his sound. Now! We'll he fukkin rocked it in DK011 and his album. I do think the sound French gang have is lot more innovative then lot of the Techno guys coming out with elite old school influence thing. At the end of day melody and funk has to be!

i like people having predictable styles
as much as i like diversity
i don't really care
i just buy the record if it's good
and i don't if it's not
then i mix them together in an order that i like
and that's about it.

sometimes too much diversity in an artist just gets confusing
like the rolling stones playing reggae or something

a bit naff

what you think of French Techno?

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Originally Posted by Adverse

sorry but i can't get over how dumb this topic is.. it's techno for ffs.

multi faceted... if i stretch my imagination and this is after like 10 minutes of sincerely thinking about it and having inner turmoil with the fact that techno is realistically just techno and not a bunch of subgenres that make it sound more diverse than it is...

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I'd have to agree.

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

PS I love French Techno!

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Really? I wouldn't have guessed that at all :lol:

Ok, well let's just say the French are diverse within their field? I'd agree on that, however on a whole I don't regard them as producers who sway too much from the same style(s). You know, I'm not saying they have to be diverse or be wildly innovative, I love most of the French stuff regardless of how much they are pushing the envelope; for me they make great party tracks, which is enough :)

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Originally Posted by Sunil

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

PS I love French Techno!

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Really? I wouldn't have guessed that at all :lol:

Ok, well let's just say the French are diverse within their field? I'd agree on that, however on a whole I don't regard them as producers who sway too much from the same style(s). You know, I'm not saying they have to be diverse or be wildly innovative, I love most of the French stuff regardless of how much they are pushing the envelope; for me they make great party tracks, which is enough :)

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OK Cowboy! Your aphex's favourite 2004 artist :lol:

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

OK Cowboy! Your aphex's favourite 2004 artist :lol:

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hehe, yeah I'm doing well!
Wasn't into the whole avatar business before, but that picture cracks me up :lol:

For being French and then being able to follow easily whats done around i agree with Sunil when talking about techno, production-wise... Most of the producers keep stuck in the same formula they have though they can have thier own style...

The whole retro-gigolo trend has maybe spread too much in French producers, but actually this style isnt quite popular over here, all the producers are more famous in Germany, for example.....

Then talkinga bout DJs or electronic music, we have a really diverse scene : just look that two of the most intense movements are the disco filtered house and the hardcore spiral tribe "free party" movement

You being French doesn' t really mean anything on this topic tioneb :nono: ! It still doesn't clearify what he is saying. The point of the topic was multi-faceted producers, not the most innovative, but I can talk about that as well! You know? Besides Kiko who else does the retro-gigolo thing?, it was more of widespread thing! And Kiko is more talented then most of those bastards put together plus a kilo! To me they are pretty diverse as given example and past releases! You can sound totally shite doing things 'push the limit' way!! :lol: Its not all about the kid with the candy. or some shite like that!! :lol:

No offence! People can act more intune to music out of their country because its different but I just don't agree! It depends on your interest ;)

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

what you think of French Techno?

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its french

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

what you think of French Techno?

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its french

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Haha . .

Sturn but fair :lol:

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

what you think of French Techno?

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its french

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that was not a racist dig at french music , just a joke , after all fench techno is french innt?
not my thing really

So instead of boom boom boom boom , its bon bon bon jour, bon bon bon jour ...

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Originally Posted by miss bass

So instead of boom boom boom boom , its bon bon bon jour, bon bon bon jour ...

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*sigh, groan* :doh: :lol:

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

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Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard

what you think of French Techno?

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its french

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that was not a racist dig at french music , just a joke , after all fench techno is french innt?
not my thing really

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Its French but not hard house :lol: