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Originally Posted by koma
bwahahahahahahahahahah
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Originally Posted by koma
bwahahahahahahahahahah
Stupid fukking words
They tangle us in our desires
Free me from this give and take
Free me from this great debate
You will do what you do
I will do what I do
We will do what we do
Rearrange and see it through
Go where you think you want to go
Do everything you were sent here for
Fire at will if you hear that call
Touch your hand to the wall at night
I like Classically Influenced Progressive Schranz.
@Dave.. Can I eat you and have all your powers after you kill yourself?
f*** that. avant-garde folk-schranz rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by massplanck
jail break blues schranz:
" when i woke up this morning " doomdadadoomdadadoomdada
"i heard a disturbin" sound" doomdadadoomdadadoomdadadoom
repeat to fade......
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Originally Posted by tocsin
that's all fine...but why have i got to touch a wall at night?
i don't get it :neutral:
ROLOTHFLMAOFATFJTYJPONBOADTD!Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
i like the sloppy jesus schranz
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Originally Posted by massplanck
que?
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Originally Posted by massplanck
que?
MOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
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Originally Posted by davethedrummer
ahhhh now i get it....
you show your appreciation for a post you just type a random selection of letters.!!?....... ie:
hbvaldfvlhadvlhadf b
meaning:
i laughed so much i nearly sh@t myself.....
it's a bit like deliberately allowing the automatic dictionary in your phone to make up nonsense text messages for you......hilarious
ah the humour of it all
Ask Ian McKaye. Words were taken out of context for the song. But, reading this thread, that particular part of the song just kept running through my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Stung :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Hands up. I got lazy. I let the standards slip. I think i've learned my lesson.
I had intended it to be a post-modern jibe at the modern craze of conversing in the latest text messaging lingo.
:doh:
yep ....time to listen to some new ringtones i just downloadedQuote:
Originally Posted by massplanck
yipee!
:clap:
I am curious as to why even classify anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by GothamGrooves.com
I used to collect insects and classify them
How do artists benefit from classification?
Why would you even attempt to classify something - you hear a sound and you either like it or you don't... you either understand where it comes from or you don't - you can classify things ad infinitum but at the end of the day you are either going to understand the sound or not - if you don't understand the sound but know the classification that is not going to help you much.
You collected insects and youre a writer?Quote:
Originally Posted by RIOTSOUND
I was too busy racking spyder jackets and north faces :lol:
Also, if we cannot put Glenn Wilson and OBI in the same category... i think there is a big problem... What are we trying to do? build a big filing cabinet for music? That's for office dorks not musicians to worry about
I mean... ROCK N ROLL is Just Rock N Roll... Hip Hop is Hip-Hop... and yet those genres are often much more diverse than electronic music... But in electronic music we somehow need to have 80 subgenres?
Does it come from the fact that DJs can't learn to beatmatch or be creative with different elements of pretty much the same thing?
So the DJ's excuse is... "OH... that's not techno...Yea, its Shranz.." WTF LOL
Always remember... when someone hands you a mix and tells you what it is... it will always suck.. at least 99% of the time it will suck
If someone hands you a CD and says... this is my Acid Techno CD or This is my Shranz CD or this is my Detroit Techno CD... it will always suck.
I collected insects when I was like 10...
By the time I turned 18 I was an expert in Credit Card fraud... so we have something in common :lol:
maybe u should stick to credit card fruad casue there are like 30 sub genres of rock n roll jazz hip hop any other genre of music. Sorry if im coming off harsh but i think u missed that point. I collect womens underware and hang them from the rafters in my dungeon i also am in the PTA and have written Irish Poetry of like like of Shamus Heany and Anne Hartigan did i mention i was in Ireland for the Troubles....Quote:
Originally Posted by RIOTSOUND
Well now let's all classify me this that and the other thing, but music is music it's expression one can view each style differently. I use to love that AMok OBI Wittenkind stuff i never said okay this is a new genre of music casue people been doing that before them. The French The Dutch etc... But i just think that each artist deserves respect and the genre deserves credit for pushing limits,
O boy im drunk and going to hear some shit...
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Originally Posted by RIOTSOUND
Is Shaz still writin with Bes?
Name 3 sub genres of hip-hop? Shit, name 2... I never knew any existed... but hey what do I know?.. I have only been listening and following it for almost 2 decades... I must have missed something.. did they come out with a new book or something?
i don't think you are coming off harsh at all... why would I care how you come off? I only care how I come off
You think artists deserve credit... and you suggest we give it to them by sticking them in a sub-genre?
That is kinda backwards don't you think?
Like... "Well, we won't say you are a Techno Pioneer.. But hell, if you really want we'll say you are a Shranz Genuis!!, Yea, Shranz, thats it!!..you are a Shranz pioneer!" WTF
Pretty stupid if you ask me... sounds more like you are taking credit away than giving it.
I gave up credit card fraud about 7 years ago... never got caught once
Oh shit... I am from a different Riot... thats Riot Productions... i am RiotSound... But I know some of those kids...
I'll reply with this...
http://www.riotsound.com/Events/2005...n2005MAY23.jpg
haha u guys are the jerks taggin up the venues then eh?
no wonder why it's so hard to book venues when u deface them!
Hip Hop and rap has to be broken down
u going tell me UK hip hop is the same as the southern gansta shit coming from the south in the USA? Come on bro.... Necro Cage is in the same class as Dr Octogon. Yeah i dig hip hop i havent been listening to music for 20 years but i can tell u that from a muscians stand point i would never put these artists in the same pannel.....
how about techno start apeing hip-hop? let's get some bling-bling action going and create coast vs. coast or maybe sub-genre vs sub-genre beef to sell records. WOOOORRRRDDDD.
Pete 'the pop music phenomenon' Waterman techno
As the man & talent behind the ultimate 2 unlimited, some may consider him the godfather of techno. A true underground hero :love:
I think it is all the same...
If it wasn't the artists would not collaborate with each other all the time the way they do...
The RZA, for examples, does beats for The Streets which is UK Hip-Hop...
Yes, the styles are different but that is the way it should be... I think that is what we call originality, not sub-genres
The artists always say they represent one thing - Hip-Hop ...yes, they also represent for their styles and locales but that is all within the big picture of Hip-Hop
Necro and Cage are Hip-Hop just like KRS One, Big Daddy Kane and Public Enemy are Hip-Hop, Just like Master P and C Murder are Hip-Hop, just like Eminem and Snoop Dogg are Hip-Hop, just like Wordsworth and Punchline are Hip-Hop...
Public Enemy employs the unique production of The Bomb Squad, yet I have never heard Hank Shoklee, Keith Shoklee or Chuck D say its somehow a different branch of Hip-Hop... Gangstarr's DJ Premier has a legendary and instantly recognizable production style.. yet he never says he represents for anything besides Hip-Hop...
I think overfocusing on Sub-Genres is one of the things that is killing originality in Electronic Music... I mean look at someone like Moby... the guy has produced things in every genre... from Speedcore to Chillout..
I find the whole Shranz thing rediculous... Just because someone refered that way to their own work does not mean we need to make a genre out of it... I think its just people who want to ride on someone else coattail...
damn dude, who you? anyway WHAT HE SAID!
I wonder if people like Max Matthews, and other pioneers of synthesis, popped the same shit, or were as concerned, about terms like "techno" that were not the same as what they used similar to how anal people get about the term "schranz" here.
Sub genre's of hip hop...
Crunk is not Hip Hop
Miami Bass is not hip hop
Screwed is not hip hop
But those are 3 sub genres of hip hop cause they are derivative of what Hip Hop is.
knuck if you buck!
i never heard of screwed or crunk being a sub genre of hiphop, but then again, i dont listen to hip hop
My point exactly, Wonder if that stuff makes Krs Throw upQuote:
Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk
sorry bout that da skeet skeet skeet (wwwwhhhhhhAAAATTTTTTTT!)
you guys ever heard go-go from DC?
Yes... Go Go is something that is like a cousin of Hip-Hop or something like that...kind of like Drum N Bass is a cousin of Hip-Hop... I wouldn't say Go Go is a subgenre of Hip-Hop... Go Go is just Go Go... it is not at odds with Hip-Hop... but Hip-Hop is Hip-Hop and Go Go is Go Go... It is big in Washington DC but does not have a far reaching influence like Hip-Hop does
And I am 100% sure the mention of Crunk Music make KRS want to puke... I think what some of you don't realize is that those are just marketing terms used for MTV... nobody takes that serious; especailly not the artists...if you think Crunk is a new genre please let me know - I will contact KRS and have him fly out to wherever you are and slap the shit out of you... lol... I am sure he wouldn't waste his time... but imagine he did! That would be hilarious
Btw... Miami Bass is just Afrika Bambaataa... Planet Rock reworked...
Here is an excert from an interview I did with Masta Ace where he explains some of where Miami Bass comes from as well as some other different sounds in Hip-Hop... pretty insightful
R: Throughout your career you have never been one to worry about trends. I remember playing Sittin’ On Chrome to a friend of mine for the first time and he was like – wait a minute – those are West Coast beats. You were actually one of the first prominent artists from New York to rhyme over beats like that. Can you talk about your role in bridging the gap between East and West on a musical level while the feud was going on and what the response was like to your music at that time?
A: The song that kind of started all that was Born To Roll; the track that I used – many people got it twisted because they looked at that record and they said West Coast; but what they didn’t realize – which was what I did realize – is that the West Coast had adopted the old school East Coast sound and had reinvented it. So when I made Born To Roll, I went back and found an old school East Coast beat – which was Knowledge Me by Original Concept on Def Jam Records, an East Coast Label – I took that beat and I flipped it and I did my rhymes over that beat. When people heard the beat, a lot of them did not know the history of the track, they didn’t know where that beat had come from and they automatically characterized it as West Coast but they didn’t realize the history.
If you really look at music and the evolution of Hip-Hop, you’ll see that many sounds are connected together, there isn’t any one sound that you can characterize as East, West, North or South, its all connected in some way. When Luke came out with Miami Bass and started to blow with Miami Bass, people didn’t realize or at least didn’t pay attention to the fact that Miami Bass was really just Planet Rock, Afrika Bambaataa & Soul Sonic Force, early 80’s Hip-Hop that he took and rhymed differently over, but in terms of the beat itself it was based off of Planet Rock – that’s what the whole Miami Bass sound was based on.
So I feel to a certain extent I have lived the entire history of this music so I kind of know the origins of the tracks and the beats, so when people categorized it as West Coast that was fine because there was that certain appeal there to the West. I shot the video out there; I was at a car show, the LA Supershow, and I painted that picture of a Brooklyn kid coming to LA to go to a car show and people bought into that whole idea. I had the dark glasses on or whatever – but at the end of the day it was all East Coast based music and I just always need to remind and correct people when they characterize it that way.
Sounds like you have a hit on your hands!Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
everything is a cousin of everything, man. there is no center from where all other things derive. techno started with electro...not that much difference between planet rock and cosmic cars...but neither of those tracks exists without kraftwerk, who don't exist without blah, blah, blah all the way to robert johnson and delta blues...Quote:
Originally Posted by RIOTSOUND
i only mention go-go cuz it's a form of dance music music most people never heard of...
"crunk" is the death metal of the hip-hop world.
:)
Nevermind schranz, I'm sick of hearing about hip hop! At least Schranz is techno.
I like hearing about other forms of music. It gets me edjeecatid, jus like my young uns, bobby, bobby-sue, bobby-joe and darleen..Quote:
Originally Posted by Will
now where did i put that po' boy?
Anyone else up for another 20 pager? :love:
I know you not sh*t talkin' me son.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIOTSOUND
Rfc Cm stand up. :nono:
Nah... Not at all... I thought I was agreeing with you actually...
Crunk is like something they just say to bring a new style to it and emphasize their own flavor... I thought thats what you were saying...Like Crunk is corny anyways... But they still want to represent for Hip-Hop with Crunk (even though they are doing a poor job of that - as you pointed out)
KRS used to say Boom Bap ... so its kind of like that... Boom Bap ain't a new genre and neither is Crunk...
Black Moon and BCC is always on that "Blunted" Hip-Hop flavor... etc etc..
Everyone got something they say... But that is just part of individuality... not new genres...etc..
But def not directing that at your statements
Why not? As long as it's about Schranz!Quote:
Originally Posted by massplanck
20 pages o shranz talk --fuk that.
that sounds like some of the kiddies sets........2hrs of the same sound. ;) ;)
wouldnt call it Schranz, i thought was moe uplifting Techno?Quote:
Originally Posted by Numeric
bah , my foot is going to be uplifting your ass in a minute lol
gay biker-house
:lol: :lol: :lol:
balearic faggot funk :rambo:
juz kidding, words are smoke :twisted: