hahahaha @ Furness
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hahahaha @ Furness
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if you dont respect the mans music (which i find hard to believe) at least respect his desicion and the man himself. theyres no need for this 'hes a drama queen' horses*it.
well i say good luck to you mate and cheers for the tunes you've made,i for one will still be caining em!
It wouldn't matter if I thought he made the greatest music ever. Don't "quit" with such a whiney public message where, like so many other jokers on this forum, the big gripe is lack of record sales and looped techno. Don't get defensive if you stand all wide while threatening to leave and some kid has the urge to kick you in the nuts. I'm just tired of seeing this dinosaur bullshit around here. Hate the music and the scene so much? Fine. If it's all you had, that really amounts to your own problem which, in the end, is most likely a result of your perspective and stubborness rather than any reality. Like I said, survival of the fittest. Whoever can't deal with it, well, don't expect me to really give a ****. Especially when a motivating reason seems to be that other peoples' crappy records are selling better than your own. That sounds like spite. Don't expect me to cheer or give praise when someone puts themself out to pasture because of spite.Quote:
Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
ffs, can't people be cool and just wish him luck in his future rather than pick at every word the guy's said :roll:
Not you Eyes...Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes without a face
See the thing is, you don't know Chris or the path he's had to walk - if you did you'd problem keep your stupid comments to yourself. But feel free, dig yourself deeper :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by tocsin
Who are they? The Chuckle Brothers? Keep your chrome plated self serving platitudes to yourself fella...
It's like they say. "Don't go away mad. Just go away."
how about everyone just take a deeeeeeeep breath here and count to 5? okay...now exhale...
tocsin's right that chris' words do seem a tad bitter...
...but it's his right to be if he wants to. hell, i'm bitter about a lot of things.
...and it's also his right to stop running a label or even stop making music if it's no longer fun or rewarding to him.
...i used to work in the film industry...i don't anymore cuz all the a**holes and bulls*** got me down on cinema...i lost my passion for it...
...but now i do something else, and i'm as into film as ever...
...so to chris...hope you find that taking a step back helps you reconnect with your passion for techno...
(and, for the third time, i don't think he's "quit" techno at all)
It doesn't matter if I know him or not. He walked away talking shit about a huge general group of people. Then, when he got called on it, he says people are waiting for him with knives drawn to take him down further. So, allow me to paraphrase, he could be my best mate, make the best music, etc. and I'd still think this going away message was straight up bullshit. "Techno is dead when MY best record doesn't sell and everyone is buying records with stolen loops and bongos. Especially after I've done so much to move things forward." Get over it. Get over yourself. Then deal. But, shoot your mouth off with a bunch of bullshit and expect to get called on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dust
This would have been the better way:
"Hey all. While my run in techno has been fun, it's time for me to move on to greener pastures. Thanks to all who supported me along the way and thanks for the memories."
Instead, a wide stance was taken that will be read by many as holier than thou.
I'm totally cool, well chilled, drinking tea, smoking...how's you?
Tocsin, try and respect Chris' comments as much as you would want people to respect yours.
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Originally Posted by Martin Dust
still at the office, so not so relaxed... :(
ANYWAYS...i do think most people are missing the boat here a bit...if chris makes good music, he won't just stop...he might pause, but he won't stop...and this is even more true if his reasons for stopping are because the industry has got him bitter...when he steps outside that for a while, it just won't bother him anymore...i know cuz that happened to me...and maybe then he'll come up with something really killer by looking for influence outside techno...
He's had enough and spoke his mind and I respect him for that, not many people tell it how they see it - can't knock it really...
You're just odd fella, you don't know him, you don't care what he says, you haven't heard anything he's done but yet you see his comments as some kind of personal judgement on you, you're not Umek are you :twisted:
Do you think what he's saying isn't true then?Quote:
Originally Posted by tocsin
I don't care if you respect my comments. Now would I pretend that you tried to ambush me after I'd fired off my mouth first. Sorry, but it's very hard for me to "respect" what is being said here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stella Boy
You get the respect you give. Was the above respectful? Not in the slightest. It was just one huge swipe at many people by someone acting as if they are better. I've never heard the kid's music, nor do I know him, so it really doesn't matter to me at all in the end. But, as I said, ANYONE who would make similar comments like those above, I'd call bullshit on them and remind them to get over themselves. So, whatever. If he wants to go, fine. I can respect that. I don't even really care. But, drop out whining and don't expect everyone to cheer you as you walk away.Quote:
Techno is in a mess. I tried my best to push things on and make a change. I got many mails from people telling me
the recent Locked E.P was one the best records in techno in a long time, but when that record actually loses you
money things have to stop. And when that record is Locked, personally the best record I have ever made, something
has gone very wrong.
I am very sad that ultra safe records with bongos and zero talent are what makes techno tick these days. And to
those who are making it, if you have something to say with music, then ****ing say it instead of rolling out
another stupid stolen loop or a stab sound from 1990.
The music I hear today is boring, formulaic, and quite abusive to any self respecting music head like myself. I am
tired of it and for me there is no more left to say.
I was never in this game for money, I did it for the love, as long as the music got out there and it didnt end up
costing me to do it, that was all I needed. I am pleased to say my life moves on unlike many in techno.
You certainly can when people speak in absolutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dust
Right, wind it back people.
I totally understand Chris`s motivations to kick it all in.
Running a label is tough, and the music biz has become even tougher.
Yeah, you may not agree with all the words he has put out, but surely you can see frustration born out of passion?
The man has most definitely served his time in the trenches, and it is seriously hurtful to be investing your heart, soul and wallet into techno these days, as things are a bit bleak when you look at the big picture.
You can only weather so many storms.
So if you want to debate the whole "fairwell, I`m gone" messages that have been happening of late, then start another thread please, and keep the spikeyness out of this one.
I don`t know chris at all, but judging by his rep, and his words, it must have been a painful decision to bow out.
Dirty, it's still chilled here - no one is blowing steam, just passion and a few facts...
Yeah fair enough - but don't you think that the world would be well bland or worse than a Dido record is they weren't artists with passion? You sound like me dad when the Sex Pistols came out ;)
I think your clock is fast as well :) My post go above yours for some odd reason...
See what I mean...
How odd...
Correct. In fact, his rant just serves as another example of why I think this board has been so poor lately. I come on this board, particularly this forum, and I get to see people repeatedly bitching about styles of techno they don't like (schranz, hardhouse, etc.) or bitching about technology they don't like (MP3, digital, whatever). However, I've yet to ever meet an artist who claims they have to "quit" because there are just so many subpar musicians around them. In the techno context, I find it even funnier. But, whatever. I'm tired of people ramming their limited (and often marketing based) perspectives down peoples' throats in this scene. It's been dead for so long that the stench of the corpse, whenever anyone digs it up, is enough to make this place, and numerous others, lose it's fukcing appeal. And it's just so ****ing circular. Damn, get over it. Get over yourself. Evolve.Quote:
Do you think what he's saying isn't true then?
It would seem that way...
Take some acid and let me see if we can have the most fragmented arguement ever...
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Originally Posted by tocsin
This seems to happen to me on this board frequently. Dunno what the bug is. But, my posts will often hover as the last one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dust
personally, i left the techno scene (in a djin/live/promoting aspect) because the lack of scene in belfast was frustrating me to the point where outside makin a few loops there was little or no joy to be had. just constant hassle & financial instability.
i worked very hard & spent much money in an attempt to create something and while i suceeded in some aspects, there where others where i didnt. and you can only live this lifestyle for so long constantly battling before you look elsewhere. the money, friends, jobs & girlfriends i lost in my time ? its jus got too much. its not worth it.
now i have my course, possible employment in a structered career path & no more painful nights in clubs. i make my loops (which i always distribute gratis to anyone) & thats it. happier than i have been in a long long time.
i never had a problem with the music. jus the machine that the music is wrapped up in.
i wish chris all the best & can empathise with him. i have no idea of whats going on in his personal life (as ppl didnt when i posted my thread about leaving) so i will make no presumptions on such an issue.
i do feel however, that his comment about techno has left him open for criticism. and tbh, i dont think he'll be bothered in the slightest by the comments.
but thats his view. and hes as entitled to his view as much as the next human being.
tbh, i think if we all sat round a table with a few beers & some spliffs as opposed to these bloody forums, we would all appreciate each others views a lot better.
reagrdless, cheers for the corkers McC. ive had my criticisms of your work in the past, but at the same time, jees, sis you unleash some devil vinyl :twisted:
good luck chris :clap:
p.s Number & Measure remix - sick :rambo:
Just respect what he is saying and leave it be.
I was just as gutted when Laidback Luke left techno
and now he's a friggin half ass star in holland.
Maybe Chris will Uk Gold it up the charts and if so good for him.
the bitchy posts are often the most popular.
Please tell me he isn't a trance star now :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Dude look at his site now. You don't know?
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Originally Posted by perpetual
this is what i've been saaaaaaaaayyyyyiinnnnngggg about chris!!!!!!!!
to think of LL... The Stalker remix was out of this world.. how i caned that 12
and Missile 39.. he remixed The Pump Panels 'Tunnel Vision'
OK PARTY PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE..... KICK IT !!!
clattery barrage of the finest variety :twisted:
didn't he put out some electroclash a couple years back?Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
I just thought he'd quit :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Sorry, bad timing. I'll say thanks for now but I'll probably regret it :cry:
jeeeeesssssuuuuuuusssssssssssss
jus checked his site... arriving by aprachute ????
and to think of his Bang The Acid remix :cry:
all the best chris mccormack :notworthy:
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Originally Posted by Martin Dust
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Originally Posted by Erase Techno
bwahahahahahaha how many records you have out bro? why you quit, you ain´t get no love? why not keep putting out dope records and let your body of work deal with the haters? do you know me man? i got more than 30 records out since 2000, work every friggin day making new and diverse styles of music. man what am i bothering explaing to you for CM? you gave up right?
pffft. bro, when you get back in the game and off your pitty potty, i will be more inclined to give you the respect you probably deserve.
this is negative.
techno is still good.
it is still happenning
i will never give up
sorry chris....much respect to you....but no.... we are not done yet.
ok here's an analogy:
it's like people who are into bikes
suddenly getting into cars....
you don't say to all your biker mates
" f@ck you guys you're all stupid.... i'm into cars now"
do you????
you just go and get into cars right?
so ........
i don't appreciate it when techno poeple come on here
which is a forum for people who love techno
(not pop, not rock , not punk , but techno right?????)
and say ..
" i'm giving up techno ...it's crap etc etc etc "
sorry but this has got to stop
it's bad for morale
and we just don't need to know
sorry chris
respect for many of your tracks
but please.........don't bring it down
enough.....if you don't like it , you know what you can do
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
that was his dopest jackin trackQuote:
Originally Posted by perpetual
My sentiments exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Once again, cannot express enough the respect I have for CM, but whatever disillusionment he may or may not have with the whole scene isn't apparent to me. I still love every aspect of the whole thing, and I've got a long way to go before I get bored.
Yes i agree Chirs has made some amazing different records, but if you are giving it up don't tarnish the music others are making since that is what they are expressing. Granted a lot of the tunes coming out now are loopy bongo and clicky crap, but if you are true to your music and express yourself those records shouldn't effect you. Just keep doing your thing and try to push your own boundaries and you shall find happiness. I think Chris had has a huge imapct and various artists and to see his influence go would be a shame for many that have looked up for him for inspiration. I know the tune he did on Blacklisted was my favorite tune for some time and gave me inspiration in the studio many times.
Well
Good Luck with what ever ya do CM
I dont like this thread very much. it isnt doing anyone any good.
Im just gonna get on with teaching, writing and enjoying music. Thats the only way to fly!
;)