how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release it

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22-08-2005, 05:58 AM
Adverse

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Originally Posted by MARK EG

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Originally Posted by conflict

i thought a tune you released on compound was sampled of a planet rhythm tune?

i maybe wrong

WHAAAAAT?

oh grow up. this is ridiculous.. what is this have a go at mark and chrissi day or something?? we've never blatently sampled anything full stop!!! we change whatever we sample to make it unrecognisable and our own and i ask anyone to post up examples before flying off on the old accusation tip.

:evil:

i don't think i have the record in question in my box.. the same loop is defintely used which is very much possible through sample cd's and resources what have you... but i don't believe it was anything of a conscious decision... if anyone knows anything about mark.. he has respect and integrity for all. anyways.. i've heard piles of glenn wilson rip offs.. this one takes the cake.
22-08-2005, 07:02 AM
The Overfiend

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

oh the irony! shut up your noise and come back when you've got some originality.

Grow Up.
Come back when you got some balls to address the issue at hand instead of acting like a drunk slob.
Don't play with me boy.
22-08-2005, 09:37 AM
eyes without a face

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

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Originally Posted by Heroes

dj k-hole, iam trying to imagine whats in ya head.....

its bad enough making this tripe but releasing it also wow, if this is the shape of things to come iam seriously worried, i dont know whats worse the minset that makes it or the distributor that says yes.....

dj k-hole - i do love to tease you

http://www.gm-multimedia.com/audio/i..._tease_you.mp3

oh the irony! shut up your noise and come back when you've got some originality.

are you being serious?

clown
22-08-2005, 09:55 AM
RDR

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Man, that main loop hasn`t even been looped and cut properly.
Regardless of whether it is blatant or not, it`s just really badly done.
Badly composed, badly produced, overall it`s just total shite.

In total agreement. Thats ****ing :shock: ing. Perhaps they need some lessons on how to operate an editor.

Nah. **** em.
22-08-2005, 10:44 AM
Heroes

jonny you so big n strong, the mind ponders about the boy behind the screen

http://www.gm-multimedia.com/avatar/baby_computer.gif
22-08-2005, 11:30 AM
conflict

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARK EG

Quote:

Originally Posted by conflict

i thought a tune you released on compound was sampled of a planet rhythm tune?

i maybe wrong

WHAAAAAT?

oh grow up. this is ridiculous.. what is this have a go at mark and chrissi day or something?? we've never blatently sampled anything full stop!!! we change whatever we sample to make it unrecognisable and our own and i ask anyone to post up examples before flying off on the old accusation tip.

:evil:

i wasnt having a go i was merely pointing out

i also said i maybe wrong
22-08-2005, 12:07 PM
MARKEG

hehehe np's. i need to chill out... sometimes p's you off when ppl say things that are not true. really shouldnt have written it like that though. sorry man
22-08-2005, 02:23 PM
networker

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Originally Posted by MARK EG

hehehe np's. i need to chill out... sometimes p's you off when ppl say things that are not true. really shouldnt have written it like that though. sorry man

yo homeboy. chillin is sweet, and if we need an expert in kneeing yo'self in the face whilst DJin' we'll send ya a PM ;)
22-08-2005, 02:24 PM
TechMouse

I'm confused.
22-08-2005, 02:28 PM
networker

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

I'm confused.

i thought everyone had heard about that. tee hee :lol:
22-08-2005, 03:16 PM
tocsin

It's funny that this site recently has spent more time devoting energy to discussing what is considered garbage. At least, that's how it seems to me right now. A shit loop? Who cares. Why even give it attention then?

On a side note,

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Originally Posted by MARKEG

Editing means that if you've been a cunt you can make yourself look wicked.

I installed a mod for this specific purpose. Aside from that standard "user edited message on X date" footer you have at the bottom of the post, it will also say the total percent of the message that was edited. Frankly, I find the inability to edit messages incredibly annoying. On a side note, for all the times that someone would make themselves look like a cunt, you can kill their ability to edit that by quoting the message. Simple enough.
22-08-2005, 03:26 PM
gumpy green

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Originally Posted by tocsin

I installed a mod for this specific purpose. Aside from that standard "user edited message on X date" footer you have at the bottom of the post, it will also say the total percent of the message that was edited. Frankly, I find the inability to edit messages incredibly annoying. On a side note, for all the times that someone would make themselves look like a cunt, you can kill their ability to edit that by quoting the message. Simple enough.

id like to see that on here......im with ya.
22-08-2005, 07:39 PM
jonnyspeed

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

oh the irony! shut up your noise and come back when you've got some originality.

Grow Up.
Come back when you got some balls to address the issue at hand instead of acting like a drunk slob.
Don't play with me boy.

tbh, I'm sick of "hard techno" artists that all sound the same - using the same loops, same sounds, add a couple of samples in and call it original... no its not. Its what is killing the scene.

So somebody had done a booty???
22-08-2005, 07:44 PM
The Overfiend

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

oh the irony! shut up your noise and come back when you've got some originality.

Grow Up.
Come back when you got some balls to address the issue at hand instead of acting like a drunk slob.
Don't play with me boy.

tbh, I'm sick of "hard techno" artists that all sound the same - using the same loops, same sounds, add a couple of samples in and call it original... no its not. Its what is killing the scene.

So somebody had done a booty???

Attitudes like yours is what's killing the scene, so quick to kill each other rather than try to evaluate the problem.
22-08-2005, 07:49 PM
jonnyspeed

ok. I have loads of respect for you Sam. I'm gonna shut up and keep to what I like and leave Glenn/Mike's stuff to those like that.
22-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Heroes

taxi for speed
22-08-2005, 10:08 PM
jonnyspeed

Heresy Street, please cabbie.
22-08-2005, 10:20 PM
Sunil

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Attitudes like yours is what's killing the scene, so quick to kill each other rather than try to evaluate the problem.

Well in his own mind he has evaluated the problem, it's just not the same opinion as yours.

I think Johnnyspeed was a a bit offhand in his first reply there, but in general I think he's a lot more openminded towards different styles than a lot of people on this board.
22-08-2005, 10:53 PM
jonnyspeed

tbh, i do deserve a warning for being an angry young man.
22-08-2005, 11:08 PM
Heroes

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

[quote="Sunil"]

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I think Johnnyspeed was a a bit offhand in his first reply there, but in general I think he's a lot more openminded towards different styles than a lot of people on this board.

but only if ya like wobbly acid, sorry acid techno keep forgetting
22-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Sunil

Re: how not to rip a loop, ohh and have the cheek to release

[quote="Heroes"]

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Originally Posted by Sunil

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I think Johnnyspeed was a a bit offhand in his first reply there, but in general I think he's a lot more openminded towards different styles than a lot of people on this board.

but only if ya like wobbly acid, sorry acid techno keep forgetting

No. His charts have some interesting things in 'em, never all the same style.
22-08-2005, 11:32 PM
dirty_bass

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

Heresy Street, please cabbie.

hehe
I had to laugh at that.

Get thee behind me SATAN.

HEATHEN!!!
:twisted: :twisted:
22-08-2005, 11:34 PM
Heroes

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

Heresy Street, please cabbie.

hehe
I had to laugh at that.

Get thee behind me SATAN.

HEATHEN!!!
:twisted: :twisted:

you cant miss it cabbie its got ketamin sprayed on the gable end
23-08-2005, 11:14 AM
jonnyspeed

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Originally Posted by Heroes

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

Heresy Street, please cabbie.

hehe
I had to laugh at that.

Get thee behind me SATAN.

HEATHEN!!!
:twisted: :twisted:

you cant miss it cabbie its got ketamin sprayed on the gable end

lol - K is the last thing I take. But you'd certainly need K to keep any interest in the plod you put out.
23-08-2005, 11:22 AM
Heroes

heeeeeeeeeeeeres jonny, another diamond in the rough department....
23-08-2005, 11:27 AM
Heroes

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

tbh, i do deserve a warning for being an angry young man.

yes and for never venturing outside the m25
23-08-2005, 02:02 PM
jonnyspeed

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Originally Posted by Heroes

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

tbh, i do deserve a warning for being an angry young man.

yes and for never venturing outside the m25

shall we leave this? not sure where you get that from as my favourate music mainly comes out of Germany and I've travelled extensively across Europe.
23-08-2005, 02:16 PM
RDR

Location: East London
23-08-2005, 02:19 PM
jonnyspeed

too funny :lol: no I ain't a hobo that travels round the world in a 1970s ambulance and has ethic tatoos. no.

:cool:
23-08-2005, 02:19 PM
Heroes

yea bored now: over & out
23-08-2005, 02:47 PM
wenna

:hmm: lock it gandalf :crackup:
23-08-2005, 04:42 PM
dirty_bass

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

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Originally Posted by Heroes

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

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Originally Posted by jonnyspeed

Heresy Street, please cabbie.

hehe
I had to laugh at that.

Get thee behind me SATAN.

HEATHEN!!!
:twisted: :twisted:

you cant miss it cabbie its got ketamin sprayed on the gable end

lol - K is the last thing I take. But you'd certainly need K to keep any interest in the plod you put out.

Thats off mate, you don`t have to love Glens music but please keep this civil.
23-08-2005, 07:23 PM
jonnyspeed

righty-o. it is off signing Glenn out as a scapegoat for all formulaic and commercial hard techno. soz.
23-08-2005, 07:27 PM
jonnyspeed

singling-a-ding not signing... actually go on mate give us your signature cos youz famous.
23-08-2005, 07:31 PM
massplanck

Johnny. I like u my fellow wonk-in-crime but give the Wilson bashing a break pleeeze. Its so not like u. :cry:
23-08-2005, 07:43 PM
Sunil

Why was Johnnyspeed banned?
Other people have way more abusive than Johnnyspeed in discussions here and they didn't get booted, why didn't he just get a warning? He was out of order sure, but Glenn kept it going, no-one backed down and then Johnnyspeed gets booted.

Who booted him then? Whoever did has been completely rash.
23-08-2005, 07:45 PM
Sunil

That's strange, from being "Currently Banned" back to being a "Supreme Freak", all in the space of 2 minutes!
23-08-2005, 07:46 PM
Sunil

To 1 warning, that's more like it alright.
23-08-2005, 07:46 PM
MARKEG

sorry guys, sam pressed the wrong button. anyway, he's back now ;) come on ppl, let's just calm down with all this crap will you it's doing the board no good at all. nowt wrong with taking about techno but these personal digs are well out of order.
23-08-2005, 07:46 PM
dirty_bass

As far as I know, Johnny hasn`t been banned.
I gave him a message to stop it on here and that`s it.
23-08-2005, 07:47 PM
dirty_bass

Ah there you go.
23-08-2005, 07:48 PM
MARKEG

honest mistake.. the buttons are too close together i think. will have to fix that ;)
23-08-2005, 08:11 PM
Heroes

there ya go my son, now as winters on its way, i dont wanna see it on ebay sold for a hit so you can keep yaself warm if you know what i mean. :nono: i got a few old coats i was gonna car boot but ya welcome to them, does your house have a number on it, ill mail then for free...

http://www.gm-multimedia.com/artwork/jonny.jpg
23-08-2005, 08:58 PM
jonnyspeed

I'm going call it a day. I tried to give it a break for a few months and start afresh but I guess BOA isn't for me anymore. The few people that know me personally on this board know I'm mostly a twat in real life, too and being a wonked-up vinyl whore is no excuse for trolling - especially people way more talented than I am.

wakka wakka clap clap

soz
24-08-2005, 09:40 AM
Adverse

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Originally Posted by Sunil

That's strange, from being "Currently Banned" back to being a "Supreme Freak", all in the space of 2 minutes!

i smell nepotism lol
01-09-2005, 02:37 AM
DJAmok

Wow, that track is awful!

Does this stuff sell??? :shock:
01-09-2005, 02:50 AM
tocsin

When is a ripped loop koher? Seriously, I want to know. There have been no shortage of "techno" tracks that have ripped loops from all different genres. Why, in some circumstances is it not cool? I've heard no shortage of techno tracks that have ripped loops, and not even altered them, that people considered slamming. What is it that makes it a bad thing? Is it merely when the loop is ripped from another techno track? Because, under that logic, I'd say there's no shortage of "techno" producers that owe Public Enemy, and numerous other hip-hop producers, a serious amount of royalties and spologies.
01-09-2005, 02:55 AM
dirty_bass

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Originally Posted by tocsin

When is a ripped loop koher? Seriously, I want to know. There have been no shortage of "techno" tracks that have ripped loops from all different genres. Why, in some circumstances is it not cool? I've heard no shortage of techno tracks that have ripped loops, and not even altered them, that people considered slamming. What is it that makes it a bad thing? Is it merely when the loop is ripped from another techno track? Because, under that logic, I'd say there's no shortage of "techno" producers that owe Public Enemy, and numerous other hip-hop producers, a serious amount of royalties and spologies.

Well you have a point
I think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere.
I`m not sure where.
I did have a really good article from a media journal my mate wrote about creative sampling.
I must dig it up and get it linked.
01-09-2005, 03:12 AM
tocsin

See, here's how I fall on it. I know for a fact that I've ripped samples from just about anything. For the energy of the track, sometimes I've altered them and sometimes I've left them completely untouched. It just seems that, when it comes to criticism, from other producers or DJs especially, there really is no telling when someone will accuse of being a straight rip-off or a "creative" sampler. Fortunately, I've been lucky enough to not have been accused of stealing from other people. But, in my own mind, and as far as laws are concerned, I'm well aware of the fact that what I have done is, for all intensive purposes, "theft." The degree to which the techno community has made this an issue as of late has been truly perplexing as I have seen no clear cut lines drawn anywhere.
01-09-2005, 08:43 AM
Heroes

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Originally Posted by tocsin

What is it that makes it a bad thing? Is it merely when the loop is ripped from another techno track? .

samplings not a bad thing i dont mind sampling at all, there would be many struggling track makers sometimes without that little low running sample in the background, hell ive even sampled airlock doors from movies for claps, so sampling in techno really has been a progression even for those who dont like to admit it. For most its a powerfull tool "if done right" that aint done right..........

the thread was how not to rip a loop........not the ethics & morals beind sampling.

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