yeah, i allways think i wont enjoy somthing till i let go and get into it (as long as its well made music)
ive even had a few beers and heard folk music stuff and enjoyed myself to it.. *puts ass in the air for a damn good flaming*
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yeah, i allways think i wont enjoy somthing till i let go and get into it (as long as its well made music)
ive even had a few beers and heard folk music stuff and enjoyed myself to it.. *puts ass in the air for a damn good flaming*
listen to some electro and see what you think.
nah, fair play to ya all, it seems the techno lot have a much wider spectrum of music enjoyment, i'll just stick to my trance and occasional techno and i'll be alright, cheers man :wink:
ill give you five years and you'll be beadstroking in some trendy jazz club... :wink:
I`m into all sorts, i have even enjoyed the odd irish folk somg of my dad`s, non dance music wise i like, disco, soul, jazz, hip hop, r&b (not this pop r&b rubbish)
i just love music basically
beardstroking...doh! wheres that bloody edit button got too?
It's my age mate, I'm too focused on one genre....
heh.. i thought you said "just love music"
as in 'just barry white'
god knows why i found that funny
god rest his soul :roll:
yeah that was a tragic loss, Barry was a legend.
Barry Who? :roll: lol
R.I.P Barry White
hey corbz
i'm sure you'll get into something else when your a little older
i was pretty focused on punk and that was it when i was 17 but i grew up in a household of musicians so i always had other forms of music around me.
yeah i think thats it, im too young to appreciate older more retro forms of music that most if you are into....
i'll learn one day... :D
is this a discussion about techno on radio 1 or barry white and racism?
scott and john are the brazillian soap stars they have a inept ability to start bitching at each other an turn the discussion into something it is not...
:lol:
anyway getting back on track...
the opinions i have on this issue have been pretty well douccumented:
i dislike the idea that someone who has had nothing to do with the creation, establishment or future of techno is able to blurt the word all over the airwaves like it is a new flavour of the month, it is not the way it should be done.. equally i dont like the tracks he play or the way he mixes it is not a reflection of the scene at all...
I am not against techno being publisised but only in the right manner, by someone who does justice to the tracks he plays and is picking out new records that aren't just a list of techno favourites that you hear on r1..
Potentially this could blow up in techno's face, new nites could spring up all over the country with crap dj's playing bland and generic music that is only due to the success of a national radio show..
fergie three hour techno set at the firefly in nottingham for example... was anyone unfortunate enough to have been there? i think he played along side umek...
now now Daniel, I never argue with anyone on here, and i rarely argue with scott on any board, eddie is the bitch luckily he does come on here.
doesn`t come on here I mean
Put it this way. I dont think that Fergie will get the same respect as any other Techno D.J's because hes jumped from one bandwagon to another. Fuk fergie, I got more time for John Peel infact I got tonnes of respect for John Peel. It make me laugh after that banging Dave Clarke set he was buzzing his tits off and he was going "king! you can honestly say THIS GUY IS KING, all you guys down in main office wanna get out of that mainstream crap and GET ON DOWN HERE" then said "and for my next record I give you Tina Turner" hahaha. At least he isnt trying to blend Hard house into Techno. John Peel isnt playing the odd techno track now and again for the money, infact I am sure hes putting his neck on the line having Dave Clarkee/Jeff mills come in and DJ for his show as Radio 1 is mainly RnB, Soul, Garage and Dance. I dont feel that thats pushing techno towards a commercialized sound. However fergies show is a bit differant to this...
Saturday 12th July 17.00 - 21.00 (berlin love parade)
Judge Jules and Fergie with recorded sets from the Radio 1 Space float including Pete Tong, Judge Jules, Fergie and Paul Van Dyk
from http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/berlin2003.shtml
This guy is DJing along side the likes of Judge Jules and Paul Van Dyke, will this be a techno set???? If it is then it stinks.
Did some one say Tim westwood! hahahah yeah, its funny as **** his show, hes like a comedy version of Eminem. Thats who Ali G was suposed to have been inspired by. I heard he got shot in London for getting chants going for the East side whist in the West side of London. Mad head
I realy hope it isnt. Sure the crowd will love it, its gonna sound raw compared to music by the likes of Pete Tong. So what happens next, Paul Van Dyke wanting a slice of the techno pie and mixing drumcode into some cheesy trance pop poop. Its just gonna to have a negative effect in the long run.
yes, i whole heartedly agree john peel is a fantastic.. this man is truley trying to forward peoples knowledge at about less well known genres of music..Quote:
Originally Posted by Furndawg
he sounds like hapiness :D
yeah i must admit i too am a really big fan of john peels,me and chris played a live session for him once which was a real thrill and he tracked down smitten records to the office and came round for a cup of tea. i can't really imagine fergie doing that can you?
anyway the whole thing has left me in even more awe of the man than before, i mean i used to do my homework to his show!
definately one of the bravest djs in the world and how does he get to know about all these different styles of music and he knows all the artists and labels etc etc etc....????
respect paid in the highest
On the fergie note, i dont know bout him opening up people too techno.
As i seen him a couple of times in the last wee while, and even tho he is playin some good stuff imo, he is dropping dj elite and belfast child in with them, and all the peeps go crazy at they tunes not so much the techno.
And he mixes it in the most crap way ever, i thought it might put peeps off techno rather that get them into it tbh. He is still playin BXR tunes from 2 or 3 years ago, which are the big tunes of his set.
Mistress barbera on the other hand, is playin all the big clubs. PLayin good quality techno (imo) and she is destroyin the place. I seen her in scotland 2 months back, and she was awesome, totally outclassed all the radio1 djs and superstars, telling you. She made them look silly. The place was goin off.
interestintg stuff ,good one to mistress barbara
i don't think it'd be that hard to outclass a radio 1 dj though.
hehe
Agreed, lmfao. It was like listening to a recording of the horses galloping at the grand national when they were all on. lmfao.
Vote mistress.
Gotta give her credit, as im imagining she is gettin paid well from the likes of godskitchen. But she has stuck too her guns, and still playin top tunes (maybe a bit more big room, big tune orientated) which is goin down well.
As im imagining it can be easy too sell out when ur gettin the cash flung at u.
Saw her DJ at love techno Last November, its was one of the last sets and very hard too. Loved it, didnt know she was dj'ing godskitchen. I wouldnt imagine her watering the set down with other styles.Quote:
Vote mistress.
if it was a joke then john, why did u give eddies mobile number out on the white knights website or wotever it was? eddie had people ringing him up asking about racist marches that u had told them he was organising.
my facts are straight, people on here dont know you like we know you
:shock:
back to the post tho, anyone remember when Dave Clarke took over for Mary Ann Hobbs on Radio 1 for a week? it was a while ago, but it was wikid
his Technology show on the internet was superb, i used to love listneing to his new show when online, hearing all the biggest tracks first, it was class.
yeah I remember that.
She doesnae mate.... lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Furndawg
Got too be there too believe, i was just watchin her play nails, pure messin the whole arena.
It was imense. very good dj.
yeah DAVE, i heartily agree about peely. He commands a huge amount of respect from people, and deservedly so.
I cant think of anybody who has that much appeal to every musical group, and (parhaps even more impressivly) musical group..
he is a very top man.
JP is my hero, he`s who i look up to musically.
what the ****? whats wrong with me?
that second bit was meant to be agegroup..
what a knob :cry:
wheres that edit button :x
Hahahaha, chill out man! :lol:Quote:
wheres that edit button
getting back to the original post involving fergie, the guy is a fuking turd!
nothing more than a bandwagon boy, his ego is the most important thing to him, the real reason he plays techno is for credibility, for instance when hard house held underground status he was there, helping to bring a commercial aspect to the music, when hard house became too commercial, he jumped off the bandwagon and onto trance/hard trance, again he brought a commercial aspect to the music, and when it became too commercial for his liking he jumped off onto techno, the rest we will wait and see, although i dont think he can destroy techno, and make techno just another embarrasing word, like he has done with the previous genres of music. for me this guy has gone one step too far, his history shows that:
1. he has no passion for the music which he plays.
2. he will be playing another genre of music in the near future.
besides that the majority of techno that he does play is nothing more than cheesey tech turd.
and as for good for techno, why would techno want an overated bum, who has no intrest in taking the music forward. his only intrest his is ego the guy thinks that he is a superstar....ive seen more superstar in terry wogan!
did anyone use to read M8 (dance music mag...shit mag i know) i dont know if he still has "a month in music with fergie" pages but the majority of his month of music pages involved telling everybody what designer clothes he was wearing that month...sad pathetic bastard!!! he makes me sick, how dare anybody see this guy good for techno, the man wants a fukin gun putting to his head!
wow you really don't like him do you?!!!?
personally i don't think putting a gun to his head is the right idea
but i know where your coming from
but i still think that the more people who listen to techno then the better it is for all of us
o.k. you may not think the type of techno he plays is of any worth
but for people who normally listen to cheese and only cheese it may be the gateway in they need.
as for the techno scene itself it doesn't do itself any favours but at least it's strong enough to withstand the invasion of commercialisation
at the end of the f*ck fergie. i couldn't care less who does it. just get some bloody techno on the airwaves so i can have something less offensive than normal raiod to listen to when i'm driving to a gig and i've forgotten my tapes
lol didn`t mark used to do the month in music page in m8?
m8 wasn`t as bad as some other music mags like mixmag & muzik, i only really read jockey slut.
Hola..
I have been thinking about this whole argument quite a lot recently. I think the reason it pisses me off is coz when i was about 16 and going out to the larger Ravier places like helter skelter and what not. My mate got me into hard trance. I realy liked it back then, all of a sudden I started hearing this watered down shite thats all over the radio today. It completly put me off (also may have something to do with growing up, and seeing the light :roll: ). So thats the reason, then it came to me. Its not going to happen to techno, it never will do. The artists are too passionate about keeping that raw agressive sound that makes us all like techno. Others may incorporate into they're music but thats always happened and the fact is the real techno players will always be there. Perhaps it kicks off, and we have a whole new generation of gatecrasher techno heads. Where D.J sets where they build the it up to techno. I couldnt honestly I dont think those crouds will be able to digest a night of raw orbit Paul Damage stlye techno. But it will definatly open up peoples minds and ideas towards it and those people who get into techno this way are more likely to buy harder records than they did when there were clubbing to trance/house. Result, more records been sold. More bandwagon Dj's (thats a negative). More people into it, I now think I see some good positives from all this. Still, they should have some one whos a real techno player on radio one, its the way it should be done. Oh and I cant do with cyber kids too. There should be a law against that shit! Esp in techno.
mark did the month of music page in wax, which was a brilliant magazine dedicated to underground music, unfortunatley its no longer around. M8 is too commercial for my liking, although mark used too do reviews in there, in fact i dont know if he still does.Quote:
Originally Posted by techfunk02
yeah ill second thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Fernando
to be fair too fergie, he used too be able to mix, and mix very well at that. But imo, when u r playin music u r not really into, ur mixin is just not as good!!! Imo he is into techno for the wrong reasons.
He is nothin short of an embaressment, i have seen him a few times recently and he has been panty hose.
Let's just all look at the Fergie thing in amusement, that's the way I feel anyway. I'd have more of a gripe with the labels that are making watered down techno that panders to the likes of Fergie et alQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
yeah, and it whatever you say, it IS better than having say, a load of crappy trance (the stuff with singing especially) as the only thing to listen to when you are hacking down the motorway...
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Originally Posted by techfunk02
i utterly disagree
m8 was a complete pile of shit which was only interested in showing raunchy club photo's and blithering on about house music or kiddie raves
i don't really like any of the dance music media but this was a real stinker of a magazine
apart from marks reviews of course
but the articles in it!!!!! please!!!!
and the photo's all young girls with their tits out e-ed out of their minds
:D :D :D :D :PQuote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Once upon a time M8 used to be good, then it started turning itself into another mixmag, most of the underground coverage dissapeared and all the articles ended up been about swanky superclub places. To me thats the bigest mistake they made as it just became another mixmag (ie boring pic's of cyber kiddies, people dressed up with the occasional coverage on drugs chucked in to boost sales). I think in england we are missing a decent underground magazine aimed more at rave, techno, etc. Why did eternity, dream magazine dissapear?? Sure at the time there wasnt as much events, with the helter Skelter closing but I still thought the demand was there.
I used to buy m8 when it had loads of hardcore stuff in it, years ago, but when it went to trance and sh*t like that i stopped getting it.
all the so called dance mags are crap, IDJ & jockey slut aren`t too bad.
M8 went pish because edtior Mickey McNonagonagle was seducted by the superclub coke scene and wanted to shag them all up their asses. Thank god he's recently left the mag. Now we have a new editor and I have to say, it's turning around - slowly but surely. There's was more articles than ever that interested me last month and this month it's even better.
Good ridance Mickey! Welcome Kevin!
maybe its just been in a cocoon so that now it can become a butterfly!
sorry, that was a bit of a gay comment really.. :oops:
yeah jim, rather gay... :D