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25-11-2005, 11:33 AM
oldbugger

heres the other one i was on about but couldnt remember the name..

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/...cked%20grooves

juno are amazing really didnt think they would still have all this stuff
25-11-2005, 11:36 AM
Si the Sigh

Man i've found some classics on Juno. It's worth ploughing through the whole back catalogue. Takes forever but theres some right gems in stock still.
25-11-2005, 12:57 PM
robin m

Locked grooves are great - all for them. I'm not too into people using loops for their whole set - I get bored of that quickly, but using a few here and there over structured tunes can really add something to a set.

Check out essential punishment vol 1 - 25 badass loops, I always have that to hand... other than that the PGV25 7" is quality, and for jackin Alex Peace Chicago-type loops try Faded Tools 1 on Faded Muzik... that's got some quality full tunes on it as well.

I bought a mad one the other day, 162 locked grooves on one 12" :shock: - some really interesting stuff on it from ambient stuff to industrial bangings but there's just too much and they're in no discernable order... a bit overwhelming.
25-11-2005, 01:08 PM
oldbugger

just get a cycloops if your into locked grooves.

sorted.
25-11-2005, 01:09 PM
TechMouse

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Originally Posted by oldbugger

just get a cycloops if your into locked grooves.

sorted.

Yeah, **** it, I'll have two.
25-11-2005, 01:16 PM
oldbugger

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldbugger

just get a cycloops if your into locked grooves.

sorted.

Yeah, **** it, I'll have two.

i find 3 a lot better ;)
25-11-2005, 01:58 PM
TechMouse

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Originally Posted by oldbugger

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

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Originally Posted by oldbugger

just get a cycloops if your into locked grooves.

sorted.

Yeah, **** it, I'll have two.

i find 3 a lot better ;)

Well, it is the magic number.
I heard a song about it once.
25-11-2005, 02:55 PM
Jay Pace

Think I heard that.

About elves wasn't it?
25-11-2005, 03:34 PM
dirty_bass

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

http://www.alan-woodburn.i12.com/4412.jpg

See what I mean henry, the resemblance is uncanny, I`ve seen the photos.
I think they were on crimewatch a couple of weeks ago.
I`m just waiting for the reward money to go up a bit, then your number is up.
25-11-2005, 04:19 PM
anx

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

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Originally Posted by anx

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Originally Posted by anx

locked grooves are a great learning tool if you want to learn tricks. Since they are all at 133 BPM on quartz, you can put 2 locked grooves on when you are practicing at home, and not worry about having to beat match. Its great if you want to just stand there and practice fader cuts, double timing, scratch dropping or whatever trick you feel like trying to master.

Or if you have a 3rd deck and some locked grooves aside, you can set your 3rd deck to the correct tempo and use it specifically for them while playing a set.

Great tool, responsible for teching me alot about dj'ing.

i love locked grooves!

133.333333recurring actually
but who's counting?

obviously you are ;)

it WAS a joke

Yea hello i just didnt get it right away ok?!
im going to go make myself some orange mocha frappacinno

wake me up...before you go go...

ok too much red bull today....
25-11-2005, 04:29 PM
alsynthe

after all this talk ive just purchased the loudboxer from speedy j. and i get my djm600 monday so im sure ill have some fun with that
25-11-2005, 04:36 PM
Jay Pace

I want cycloops

Roll on payday...
25-11-2005, 04:38 PM
alsynthe

u can cycloops for about £60 on ebay, ive heard there really good
25-11-2005, 04:54 PM
da hound

cool when playin on 3 decks
25-11-2005, 07:57 PM
lunatrick

but a pain in the ass when in a dark club...........cool for three deck peeps, but lets be honest as easy to mix as pressing 'go' on a laptop......personally not a fan!
25-11-2005, 08:23 PM
Mindful

The Egnomix ones are the best imo , also as mentioned the Loudboxer ones are great too.
I like them personaly but rarley use them(ive never used em in a club)
Its down to you what you do with them.
25-11-2005, 09:25 PM
thetonewrecka

I've always thought it would be interesting to release a triple pack with one of the records having 3 or 4 full tracks done @ 133.333 and then the other 2 records be duplicates of all the individual component pieces broken down as 20-30 lock grooves for each of those cuts(drum patterns, synths, sound fx, bassline variation). It would allow the dj to do some wild breakdowns on 3 decks with the full track playing and then accessing 2 components at once on the other decks.
Probably way too expensive of a venture, but I'll probably do something like that eventually with wav files for anyone interested.

I agree about them having to be used creatively, but they are an important piece at times. With programs like Traktor 3 adding loop pieces along with Ableton which makes it really easy to change up/modify a simple loop, maybe Labels should start offering those components for people after they've purchased the track. Good luck trying to keep that in order though.

*project plug for the interested*
I did just put together a 100 (50 per side) lock groove record of all 80's/electro reworks under the "ROKKEN" guise that comes out in a week or two through VETO.
28-11-2005, 04:46 AM
Louk

ergonomix ones rock

i got a wicked record with locks too - disx3 - sequenzed function on tresor

quality shit that is!!

Louk
28-11-2005, 05:58 AM
oldbugger

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Originally Posted by thetonewrecka

I've always thought it would be interesting to release a triple pack with one of the records having 3 or 4 full tracks done @ 133.333 and then the other 2 records be duplicates of all the individual component pieces broken down as 20-30 lock grooves for each of those cuts(drum patterns, synths, sound fx, bassline variation). It would allow the dj to do some wild breakdowns on 3 decks with the full track playing and then accessing 2 components at once on the other decks.
Probably way too expensive of a venture, but I'll probably do something like that eventually with wav files for anyone interested.

I agree about them having to be used creatively, but they are an important piece at times. With programs like Traktor 3 adding loop pieces along with Ableton which makes it really easy to change up/modify a simple loop, maybe Labels should start offering those components for people after they've purchased the track. Good luck trying to keep that in order though.

*project plug for the interested*
I did just put together a 100 (50 per side) lock groove record of all 80's/electro reworks under the "ROKKEN" guise that comes out in a week or two through VETO.

pretty sure thats been done mate. cant for the life of me thinkk who it was but it wil come back to me. x-press 2 maybe? :scratch:
29-11-2005, 03:29 PM
Udy

Chris Liebing - Stigmata compilation
If you bought that on CD you could get the unlock key to download all the ableton files used to make it.
Great fun!
30-11-2005, 08:36 PM
djshiva

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Originally Posted by Conan

But your imagination cant even be nearly realised if your using loops. You can layer a loop of two tracks that are playing but you need a break or a change/melody/groove to come into the mix in order to grab attention and make it effective. Throwing in another loop on top of another loop on top of another loop is just boring and not powerful or attention grabing at all.

Needless to say I dont really see the need for loops at all. I think they are the bane of techno and a bit lazy really.

well i think the point that is being missed here is that they are not meant to be a substitute for good tunes. they are like spices in a good hearty DJ soup.

use them for layering over tracks to make interesting textures, use them as bridges between tunes to set up a killer tune with a crazy breakdown (just don't let loops ride for a long time or they DO get boring), use them to work effects over (i.e. make your OWN breakdowns and groove changes), use them set offtime to cut into breaks in a tune or at the end of a measure, double them up for a little tricky fun to really get things shaking...whatever...they are versatile and only as limiting as your imagination. and frankly, to say that any of the above uses is somehow boring or not "attention grabbing" is really kinda unimaginative, INMNSHO.

just kinda throwing out some of the ways i use lock grooves to spice up a mix. i don't RELY on them, i just season with them... you wouldn't make a soup out of ONLY salt and pepper, but a dash of it can really add to the flavor of food, yanno?
30-11-2005, 09:21 PM
Jay Pace

WORD

Shiva, I have yet to read a post from you that is isn't completely spot on.
30-11-2005, 09:54 PM
djshiva

^^
why thankya!

i think i just spend far too much time relating techno to everything and everything else to techno.

yesterday i used djing as an example of how to do nonprofit fundraising...go figure... ;)
01-12-2005, 10:00 AM
gumpy green

shiva- fuk aye...

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