The 'Techniques for making techno' thread.

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i have to really go back and save all of this..lol..well done guys..

i love this place :)

me too! :)


i dont have friends in producion or djing

when i found this place is like i found god :)


thanks all amigos.

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Originally Posted by fresh_an_funky_design

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Originally Posted by danielmarshall

My main quam with outboard anything is that I can't have a project file to save the settings. Like the idea (and sound) of allot of gear, but sometimes it's hard to replicate that sound you had a couple of days ago even with all the knob numbers written down. Not only that, but I feel that I loose my ideas very quickly (don't do drugs kids), so if I can't have things up and running in minutes I'm lost. That, and with digital technology being at the point is is, and only getting better I'll take the hit in sound quality for the usabilty/ flexibility tradeoff anyday. Mind you, some valve compressors/ distortion units still make me wet...

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i find i'm much more creative with my outboard than with software.

If i apply software compression i usually go for standard compression settings, wheras with outboard i really mess around doing slightly crazy settings and often get really good results.

I've started really battering my compressors recently, getting the overload lights glowing, get such a lovely distortion. not that heavy like the distortion you get from a lot of plug-ins, just a really nice warm sound

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Yup, I agree, some valve equipment just can't be replaced... My guitar amp doesn't use transistors for a good reason. But I usually write tracks over the period of a few weeks, sometimes months rather than just one afternoon. I also like to jump around between projects so that I don't get bored to often and keep my motivation levels up. You can't really do this effectively if your gear is always in a state of flux, and so you really do need some way of keeping things consistant. I guess it's just dependant on how you write tunes and wether or not you're keen on revisiting them later.

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Originally Posted by Elvio Neto

me too! :)


i dont have friends in producion or djing

when i found this place is like i found god :)


thanks all amigos.

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Well I have a tonne of freinds DJing and a few producing, but nobody in my area seems to like techno much :(, so I suppose I'm in your book too mate... I feel like since I joined here I've really had my standards stretched, not to mention getting some ace technical advice. Group hug :P

Even my gear is happy in the studio these days.
Check it Click it

This thing is ridiculous. All of my hardware jumped off the shelves and popped out of their racks to line up to get hooked up to this multitrack, multitasking sequencing party machine.

www.genoqs.net

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Originally Posted by danielmarshall

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Originally Posted by fresh_an_funky_design

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Originally Posted by danielmarshall

My main quam with outboard anything is that I can't have a project file to save the settings. Like the idea (and sound) of allot of gear, but sometimes it's hard to replicate that sound you had a couple of days ago even with all the knob numbers written down. Not only that, but I feel that I loose my ideas very quickly (don't do drugs kids), so if I can't have things up and running in minutes I'm lost. That, and with digital technology being at the point is is, and only getting better I'll take the hit in sound quality for the usabilty/ flexibility tradeoff anyday. Mind you, some valve compressors/ distortion units still make me wet...

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i find i'm much more creative with my outboard than with software.

If i apply software compression i usually go for standard compression settings, wheras with outboard i really mess around doing slightly crazy settings and often get really good results.

I've started really battering my compressors recently, getting the overload lights glowing, get such a lovely distortion. not that heavy like the distortion you get from a lot of plug-ins, just a really nice warm sound

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Yup, I agree, some valve equipment just can't be replaced... My guitar amp doesn't use transistors for a good reason. But I usually write tracks over the period of a few weeks, sometimes months rather than just one afternoon. I also like to jump around between projects so that I don't get bored to often and keep my motivation levels up. You can't really do this effectively if your gear is always in a state of flux, and so you really do need some way of keeping things consistant. I guess it's just dependant on how you write tunes and wether or not you're keen on revisiting them later.

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when i make a tune i start it and the completely finish it before starting anything else, wrecks my head trying mixer, compression & effects settings back after altering them for another tune.

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Originally Posted by thetonewrecka

This thing is ridiculous. All of my hardware jumped off the shelves and popped out of their racks to line up to get hooked up to this multitrack, multitasking sequencing party machine.

www.genoqs.net

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for gods sake paul.

has anyone got a spare 1999 euros they can donate to me???

:)

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Originally Posted by thetonewrecka

Even my gear is happy in the studio these days.
Check it Click it

This thing is ridiculous. All of my hardware jumped off the shelves and popped out of their racks to line up to get hooked up to this multitrack, multitasking sequencing party machine.

www.genoqs.net

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mine just arrived too. very. happy.

machina

So, I read about some of you guys EQing before compressing...

Erm, how does that work then?

Compression is dynamic range controller... EQ in my mind is the final shaper of the sound; kind of like a rope or boundary to keep all the bad sounds out... surely distorting after this process will make the boudaries fuzzy and not what you originally set them to be?

If I am missing something here, please fill me in... :)

it`s a dynamic process. i adjust EQ little by little `till i am finsihed with the song.

Well I'm pretty new to techno production, but this is useful in other types of edm so I imagine it will be useful here too...tune your kick drum to the rest of your bassline.
You can get some dissonance if your kick drum and baseline are out of tune

when u say loose the dynamics u mean loose the bass or the highs ...basically it sounds flat or doesnt thump...etc?...im tryin to fully understand what loosing dynamisc is...im thinking its loosing the nice crisp clean thumping music..and it turns falt n distorted..muddy etc/....

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Originally Posted by shpongled

Well I'm pretty new to techno production, but this is useful in other types of edm so I imagine it will be useful here too...tune your kick drum to the rest of your bassline.
You can get some dissonance if your kick drum and baseline are out of tune

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yep. actually this goes for perc like bongos and congas as well, sanres too, i think. yet this is sth. i think of but often leave aside....when the flow gets me, y'know. you can use analogx autotune (free)

http://www.analogx.com/

to tune to a key or antares autotune or
gsnap (poor man's autotune :))

http://www.gvst.co.uk/gsnap.htm

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Originally Posted by Elvio Neto

me too! :)


i dont have friends in producion or djing

when i found this place is like i found god :)


thanks all amigos.

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Usually in many places around the world the people could see another dj/producers as "enemies", the competition is over there...
People usually is not friendly in this electronic world...

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Originally Posted by tracatak

when u say loose the dynamics u mean loose the bass or the highs ...basically it sounds flat or doesnt thump...etc?...im tryin to fully understand what loosing dynamisc is...im thinking its loosing the nice crisp clean thumping music..and it turns falt n distorted..muddy etc/....

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When you compress, limit or apply distortion to stuff it tends to make everything sound the same volume - loud. The term "dynamic" implies something which is changing, so when we talk about compression squeezing all the dynamics out of a tune what we mean is that the volumes don't seem to change much after we've compressed it.

This has a detrimental effect musically. Imagine a symphony orchestra playing only forte.. It'd be really boring. To make things more dramatic you have strings building and building in volume, and then maybe some percussion and brass slamming in at the start of a new movement. Compression reduces this effect.

Sorry, I'm getting carrried away. I've been listening to allot of Shostachovich lately though - DRAMATIC SHIT!

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Originally Posted by danielmarshall

My main quam with outboard anything is that I can't have a project file to save the settings. Like the idea (and sound) of allot of gear, but sometimes it's hard to replicate that sound you had a couple of days ago even with all the knob numbers written down. Not only that, but I feel that I loose my ideas very quickly (don't do drugs kids), so if I can't have things up and running in minutes I'm lost. That, and with digital technology being at the point is is, and only getting better I'll take the hit in sound quality for the usabilty/ flexibility tradeoff anyday. Mind you, some valve compressors/ distortion units still make me wet...

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My bad, I just found out what a sysex dump/ load is :blush: