apparently Heinze returned to Manchester yesterday and told Sir face to face that he wants to leave United...
f**kin t**t, he can f**k off
O'Shea's better than him anyway :;
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apparently Heinze returned to Manchester yesterday and told Sir face to face that he wants to leave United...
f**kin t**t, he can f**k off
O'Shea's better than him anyway :;
Won't Evra play there though?
I am surprised other Spanish sides haven't come in for him.
Even if he goes to Liverpool he will have to battle with Risse for the LB position so his position there is not gauranteed.
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Originally Posted by Numeric
aye Evra's first choice, but O'Shea will be taking Heinze's place as second choice...Quote:
Originally Posted by french_og
i'm also suprised that more top teams haven't been in for Gabby, there were murmers of Real Madrid and Juve, but nothing solid...
its getting worse than the trves deal this ... just let him go .. says a lot if he cant get in to utd but will do for liverpool
no.its says alot about your manager when he is willing to let one of if not the best defender you have leave the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick_anarchy
dude, Gabby's a fine left-back but in the centre of defence Rio and Vidic are far superior...
and at right-back Nev has no equal...
fed up with disloyal overpaid ball kickers, sell the tosser to hartlepool
comidean.when will you realise rio is a shite defender?? vidic yeah hes good,il give u that. finnan is far superior to nobhead nev at right back also.the stats prove it. neville puts a good ball in the box,thats all.dogs dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Numeric
But fact remains that Liverpool are desperate to sign our cast offs!
He aint the best defender we got anymore - few years ago yeah, but since his injury is slow and immobile. Tough and good positional sense and strong in the air and the tackle, and Evra had his work cut out convincing me, but Evra is a much better attacking full back and actually has the pace to match wingers running at him.
Heinze reads the play well and gets interceptions in, but gets exposed when ran at with pace - both when he plays full back or centre back.
Still dont think we should sell him to the scum though - just cos it seems to be irritatin them as much as out lol
And Rio is far from shit - you only have to look at the stats comparing our defensive record when he plays to when he dont to see how good he is - he provides leadership at the back which is vital to any central defensive partnership. Okay he makes the odd boob and makes himself look a plank, but they get noticed because they're the exception not the rule.
exactly right...Quote:
Originally Posted by kai
how many times have i herd that hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
well i think the same ws said about beckham , stam , keane and a few more !!
the fact is he wants to leave and it was said to him that if any big club was to come in for him and at the right price then we would let him go BUT no big club has cme in for hm and only liverpool have shown any interest ( as they do need a lot of help in defence !! ) so the only way out of OT is to the kopites a drop down in class of football to a club who cant win the premership to a club who are just dreamers if milan or juv , inter or real came knockin on the door then everyone knows full well he would be off to them no problem !!
as for RIO well kpoites are sour over him as he is center back for england where carra cant get a sniff RIO is a much better defender / player and reads the game a hell of a lot better mmmm stats !! who had the best defence last season ??
i think it may have been Chelsea which had the best defence statisticaly...
however, their negative football means more protection for the back four, whilst United are much more attack minded, and still had a very impressive defensive record, when you take into account United's attacking mentality it makes the fact that we kept it fairly tight at the back all the more impressive...
clown.i cant be arsed replying.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick_anarchy
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Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
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Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
aye i thought the same thing its a kopite thing dont u knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Microdot
Yeah, and he's good looking and not gay at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Numeric
he is a handsome fellow isn't he, and his wife's fit so no, he's not gay...
http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/...ofile_2006.jpg
He's just using her to sire an heir to his gaydom, we all know he's gay and in love with Beckham.
haha innit ... hes stuck with john o'sha now thoQuote:
Originally Posted by Will
o how me must love the showers with him
Haha, at least one Man U fan see's sense!
nick was jilted by O'Shea and is now just spreading wild rumours that have no foundation :;
Haha, ah right, but Neville's still gay, even if he isn't involved with O'Shea!
Gabby's move to Liverpool has been blocked :laughing:
I bet it'd have been a different story if it was Man U who were after him instead of trying to keep him!
I doubt that, the fa don't like Utd at all and are more than happy to **** them up at every opportunity....remember the start of last season when they had the opportunity to overlook Scholes and Rooney's 3 match bans picked up in a friendly tournament (for anyone who knows nothing about the game, the ref in a friendly game is supposed to give the bench the opportunity to sub a player rather than get him sent off), and let the bans stand......Quote:
Originally Posted by Will
the fa's most favoured team has been Arsenal over the last few years, but now Barwick's in charge, expect it to be the scousers....
the reason the fa ruled in Utd's favour is basically because Heinze didn't have a case...and as a result his appeal should also fail, though you never know (see previous sentence)
hes appealing then?
Yeah and has had transfer window specially extended for him to allow the appeal.
At the end of the day Utd own his contract for another 2 years so it should be up to them who they sell him too. About time clubs won over Player Power.
i thought he was supposed to be buying out his contract?
i heard he could be bought by Crystal Palace then sold straight away to Liverpool
looks like the dirty fukkin judas fukkin low life kunt is off to madrid now anyway....
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fair do's, got no problem with him going to Madrid like, all the best Gabby lad...
I'd have said the same a couple of months ago and wished him well but after all this he can go f.u.c.k himself - hope his career goes downhill from here!
Yeah, hopefully he'll hardly play for them then end up at Liverpool in 6 months like Mascherano.
Fukin farce. The FA not wanting to go against united again.
made up the shite didnt get him :cool:
You will be. You will be...
again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Traxx
name another time the fa has ever ruled in favour of Utd.
as I pointed out before, the fa ruled in Utd's favour cause legally heinze and his lawyers didn't have a leg to stand on.
the vermin could well have shot themselves in the foot with this one though, as the fa are now investigating crystal palace's involvement in this.
That's not entirely true, he had a letter saying he could go to anyone who paid £6.8 - then the FA come out with some shit about they didn't say they definitely wanted to get rid of him when clearly he had permission to join anyone, which is what matters. Then they have the cheek to sell him for £8m, which is more than the price they said he could go for too. Though Real only have themselves to blame on that one, it's ridiculous how they even managed to pay over the odds on that one.
If a valuation is met, it doesnt mean the club have to sell to the team meeting it.
If he had permission to join anyone, why was the move blocked? Because he didnt have permission to join anyone.
Chelsea seem to buy players cos other teams want them and nothing gets said.
When it comes to man u alot of ppl seem to have their blinkers on
Madrid paid over £8 million so Utd got a better deal anyway..
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Originally Posted by djfase
Deffo - people just dont like Utd and anything like this will twist it in their heads till they find a way of making it an attack on United.
The point on this is that the letter did not supercede or replace the contract. It comes down to the finer points of contract law - and unless a letter explicitly states that it is an amendment to the contract then it cannot be considered as such, whether signed or not.
Therefore, United sending his agent a letter stating that they would sell him for a specified fee is not an amendment to the contract unless it states that in the letter that it is a contract amendment, in this case inserting the kind of sell on clause in Obafemi Martins contract.
As none of us on here have seen the letter then its all speculation, but I'm sure after the Tevez situation that the FA will be keen to stick to the letter of the law on these issues so as not to get their fingers burnt, and as noone anywhere, including Heinze's agent, has ever stated that the letter did contain explicit statements amending the contract, merely that it was signed by a United official, then surely the assumption should be that this was the case, and not that the FA are being bias.
To make any other assumption is basically to make one based on no evidence what so ever.
actually, it is entirely true. the letter was not a legally binding document. end of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will
exactly why is it a cheek to sell a player for £8m rather than £6.8?
would you expect any other team to accept a smaller transfer fee than the one offered by an interested party?
you are letting yourpersonal feelings about Man Utd cloud your thinking.
Well, it means they broke their word in the letter on 2 counts, but like I said Madrid only had themselves to blame, so my thinking was hardly clouded.
so,if i get a letter from an employer saying im fired,it doesnt mean shit really?bollox.
the fact of the matter is it wasnt stated that he couldnt move to a rival,so it should of been legally binding.
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Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
No. I hate Man U as much as the next man, i.e. ****ing loads, but the Law is the Law, no matter how much of an ass it may be.
It was just a letter, not a legal document. Get me?
Exactly.
Where as a letter saying you have the sack would supercede your contract and would contain words such as 'your contract is terminated with immediate effect'
Face it scouser - your team was in the wrong here for tapping up our reserves.
depends entirely on how the letter is worded son.Quote:
Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
not sure why you're so upset about not getting one of Utd's cast offs, but if I were you, I'd just move on.
I'm sure if there was any possible way Barwick and his cronies at the fa could have ruled in the vermin's favour, they would have done.
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Originally Posted by kai