has it all gone a bit too ravey?

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Originally Posted by ds2

there seems to be a lot of clubs these days that are putting on as many djs as they can at their nights and giving them anything from 30 mins to 1 hour to play.

is it just me or has it all gone a bit too ravey, is it a knock on effect from the hard house to techno mass bandwagon jump of a few years ago?

there's a party i've seen that's on this weekend where mark eg is playing for 30 minutes. what's the point in that? :whoops:

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joke really

I believe if the time you've been given to play your set in forces you to compromise what you're gonna play then thats a bad thing.... I lose track of the ammount of times i hear things like ' yeah i was only playing an hour and i was tucked in between dj x and dj y so i just banged it'.. And i include myself in having said that.. If you've got some music that you know is gonna work the dancefloor but isn't 'straight up' then you need time to introduce it.. like changing your clothes.. start planting bits and bobs around the place, maybe add a hat... then slip off the gloves.. when the smoke machine's on really thick change your jumper , then finally, when the crowd 'aren't looking' you can whip your trousers off, on with ya bermudas and hey presto.. you've changed and the crowd haven't noticed but now you can do what you like cos you're in your comfortable clothes! Its hard to do that in an hour, let alone half; hence the temptation to stay wearing the last dj's clothes often wins when playing short sets. boo
(apologies for the metaphor)

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Originally Posted by wrong

I believe if the time you've been given to play your set in forces you to compromise what you're gonna play then thats a bad thing.... I lose track of the ammount of times i hear things like ' yeah i was only playing an hour and i was tucked in between dj x and dj y so i just banged it'.. And i include myself in having said that.. If you've got some music that you know is gonna work the dancefloor but isn't 'straight up' then you need time to introduce it.. like changing your clothes.. start planting bits and bobs around the place, maybe add a hat... then slip off the gloves.. when the smoke machine's on really thick change your jumper , then finally, when the crowd 'aren't looking' you can whip your trousers off, on with ya bermudas and hey presto.. you've changed and the crowd haven't noticed but now you can do what you like cos you're in your comfortable clothes! Its hard to do that in an hour, let alone half; hence the temptation to stay wearing the last dj's clothes often wins when playing short sets. boo
(apologies for the metaphor)

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priceless:lol:

in my opinion, techno works best when you layer a shit load of subtle changes within the frequencies you're hearing. I think to do this best you can't do this with a short set, as it takes time for these frequencies to manifest into what they are becoming. Contrary to what short, choppy, "going for it" 1/2 Hour sets seem to try to do, i find them the opposite and usually boring.

I get why DJs have to adapt, but whats the point in booking them in the first place if one is asking them what to do? If thats the case play yourself!

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Originally Posted by wrong

I believe if the time you've been given to play your set in forces you to compromise what you're gonna play then thats a bad thing.... I lose track of the ammount of times i hear things like ' yeah i was only playing an hour and i was tucked in between dj x and dj y so i just banged it'.. And i include myself in having said that.. If you've got some music that you know is gonna work the dancefloor but isn't 'straight up' then you need time to introduce it.. like changing your clothes.. start planting bits and bobs around the place, maybe add a hat... then slip off the gloves.. when the smoke machine's on really thick change your jumper , then finally, when the crowd 'aren't looking' you can whip your trousers off, on with ya bermudas and hey presto.. you've changed and the crowd haven't noticed but now you can do what you like cos you're in your comfortable clothes! Its hard to do that in an hour, let alone half; hence the temptation to stay wearing the last dj's clothes often wins when playing short sets. boo
(apologies for the metaphor)

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Yeah, great metaphor that and so true... if you've just obtained some new and interesting tunage that is more where your at, or have some stuff that you would be more keen to play that isn't the usual barnstorming, then it would be very frustrating to know that you don't have the time to experiment with the crowd to see if they get it or not...

So the dilemma is set and as you say, the tendency is to play it safe so that you don't create any negative feedback on your 'half hour of "fame"... definitely boo!! :rucrybaby:

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Originally Posted by clubsynthetic

in my opinion, techno works best when you layer a shit load of subtle changes within the frequencies you're hearing. I think to do this best you can't do this with a short set, as it takes time for these frequencies to manifest into what they are becoming. Contrary to what short, choppy, "going for it" 1/2 Hour sets seem to try to do, i find them the opposite and usually boring.

I get why DJs have to adapt, but whats the point in booking them in the first place if one is asking them what to do? If thats the case play yourself!

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I agree with this... the point of techno when I first started listening to it at parties is that each of the elements of a track would be subtely brought forward and focused on throughout the mix...

...an amazing sound would become apparent late on in a track, which you would get off on, only to realise on listening again, at home say, that that particular sound had been running through the track all along... hmmmm:coffee:

a monkey can beatmatch for 30 minutes.

i wanna see someone who can go from one place to another, who can build a set, pull it down and build it right back up again.

i mean, i have always compared djing to sex, so i shall extend the metaphor...would you rather have sex for 30 minutes? or for several hours?

then again, maybe this isn't a metaphor for a lesbian to use in a room full of boys, eh? ;) i do have the advantage, after all. ;)

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Originally Posted by djshiva

i mean, i have always compared djing to sex, so i shall extend the metaphor...would you rather have sex for 30 minutes? or for several hours?

then again, maybe this isn't a metaphor for a lesbian to use in a room full of boys, eh? ;) i do have the advantage, after all. ;)

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garnier also said once, dj-ing is like sex, you can't f*ck all the time, you have to go up and down :xcool:

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Originally Posted by koma

garnier also said once, dj-ing is like sex, you can't f*ck all the time, you have to go up and down :xcool:

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exactly... you need troughs to accentuate the peaks

yeah. You don't feel like you have reached the summit till you climb there.

Does anyone, 'tho, think it's true that the anticipation can be greater than the thing your anticipating?

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Originally Posted by ds2

there seems to be a lot of clubs these days that are putting on as many djs as they can at their nights and giving them anything from 30 mins to 1 hour to play.

is it just me or has it all gone a bit too ravey, is it a knock on effect from the hard house to techno mass bandwagon jump of a few years ago?

there's a party i've seen that's on this weekend where mark eg is playing for 30 minutes. what's the point in that? :whoops:

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sad sad sad sad sad ! is there about 15 promoters all on the same night squashing all there sets together ,so they can b on the same bill as mark and go on forever wanking with delite wilst spunking in there own faces. the daft bastrds........ GOD I MISS THIS PLACE!

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Originally Posted by jon connor

sad sad sad sad sad ! is there about 15 promoters all on the same night squashing all there sets together ,so they can b on the same bill as mark and go on forever wanking with delite wilst spunking in there own faces. the daft bastrds........ GOD I MISS THIS PLACE!

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:lol: @ SPunking in their own faces..

:lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by jon connor

sad sad sad sad sad ! is there about 15 promoters all on the same night squashing all there sets together ,so they can b on the same bill as mark and go on forever wanking with delite wilst spunking in there own faces. the daft bastrds........ GOD I MISS THIS PLACE!

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the scene has always been like that though mate to be fair, far, far too many people who think associating with their hero's or artists bigger than themselves will somehow give them added kudos when in reality they dont have the talent to hold themselves up in the water

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Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

the scene has always been like that though mate to be fair, far, far too many people who think associating with their hero's or artists bigger than themselves will somehow give them added kudos when in reality they dont have the talent to hold themselves up in the water

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crikey! how the bloody hell is an artist supposed to express himself in 30 mins ? jesus christ , talk about apearence money ?

anyway hows yall doing ere nice to back by the way nutters....