yes, I KNOW EVERYTHING ME, NO BEDROOM BOY IS GONNA TELL ME NUTHIN!! shoot me if i ever sound like that.
does everyone really not know who user is???????????????????
i am shocked!!!!!!!!
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yes, I KNOW EVERYTHING ME, NO BEDROOM BOY IS GONNA TELL ME NUTHIN!! shoot me if i ever sound like that.
does everyone really not know who user is???????????????????
i am shocked!!!!!!!!
No, shocked, I really don't, not for definite anyways ;) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
So out with it then, who is it ?
LOL---hey Patrick,,,,i checked that site u have and i was wondering what dj/producer you are??
trying to get an idea of your sound but only 1 dj has 1 audio link to a mix and that doesnt work?? :eh:
how bout some links??
and i know everyone knows who user is 4 sure
Yeah, our site is really out of date at the mo. I should point out that as we are a collective, it's not just representative of 'my' sound but is kind of an average of the stuff that all our crew likes (which ranges from house, breaks right through to hard techno. Although looking at the site, it seems to be more weighted in favour of hard techno at the minute). I've just signed up with a new provider and will be moving it soon so hopefully we'll have a few mixes on there in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by tekku7181
The Chris Gawtry link is there because he was a guest at one of our nights. The guest slots weren't always necessarily the kind of stuff that I personally was hugely into, but other members of our collective and certainly a lot of the people who paid to come through the door were really into that sound, and we tried to balance one month of something they would be into and then the next month of something we were really into, that maybe they wouldn't have been exposed to down here.
I don't produce any more, and never for anything more than my own amusement and pleasure when I did, and I'm a shit DJ, but I know what I like :lol: - which is anything from Detroit through to Wonk, and also lots of IDM. Trying to think of some people who really excited me in the last year or so to give an idea of my tastes - Surgeon definitely, working that Ableton Live to maximum effect, and all the BMB stuff has been great. That new Grovskopa mix floats my boat. That Makaton live set that was linked on here by the Electric City people a while back was wicked. Jeff Mills blew me away a couple of times last year, a real return to form. Likewise Robert Hood. Shaun Rudiman live was awesome. Mark Hawkins did the biz. Love anything in that Monolake, Scion, Basic Channel sort of area. Max Duley also. Of the less established jocks, Jerome Hill, Morph and Ryan Blackman have impressed. Plaid stunned me. And Aphex Twin of course, much electronic headfu.ck shenanigans. There's so much more, but I've rambled too much already, and that should give you an idea of my flava.
That's kind of what I try to incorporate in a set, anything from any of those areas. I'm not much bothered with playing all the 'latest' either, so I could end up playing early Detroit tracks that are 15 years old. If it feels right for the moment, it's in. Nice idea, usually let down by my crap mixing :roll: :oops: :lol:
Hope that answers your question.
Christ ! Another really long post. Is it obvious I'm laying off the herb at the moment ? :roll: :lol:
[quote="Patrick"][quote="Sunil"]i think detroit had something to do with the beginning of techno...Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
ur(and im not abbreviating you are)
[quote="tekku7181"][quote="Patrick"]Dude, Belleville is a suburb of Detroit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
[quote="Patrick"][quote="tekku7181"]oh sorry,,,i didnt know thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
Jesus, I don't know how to address the points in your big post Patrick as there's so many and I'm feeling kind of lazy! But yeah, I see what you are saying… It was a case for me to say something or not say and I said it, I just thought that what you said would do more to discourage people from posting than anything else, as I know from other boards I've been on that some people stop posting if they feel they are not been taken seriously or are spoken down to. That isn’t what you meant though and apologies for diving straight in, I shouldn’t have.
Anyway what you said was only a small part of a bigger point which you have made and I'm inclined to agree with you on a lot of it. Regarding attitudes etc. I do find some of the.. hmmm...'newer' people to techno very one track in what they will accept or listen to; for me 'techno' is far too much of a buzz word being used by all in sundry these days, many of whom just equate techno with the banging stuff and nothing else. There’s a whole new breed of people getting into it and that’s great, but some need to open their minds a little. There are others I meet however who know they are new to it and want to gain knowledge, find their sound, producers etc. I think this is great, I much prefer people who i can chat to about it rather than some guy who thinks if it's not like the last record he's heard then it's crap, the guy who sticks with the producers he's heard of and no-one else, or the records he was told were good.. that's boring.
Anyway, gonna leave this thread for a while, don't wanna get in too deep!
When I just told my mum who User was, she was very surprised. She didn't know that before.
can someone tell me who user is cause i am one of the few ignoramuses that dont know haha
a musician in my eyes is someone that makes music, pretty simple really
you've obviously never heard it done well. to be honest i keep it to a minimum, maybe a have a few double copy records with me in my bag. but i have seen it overdone: ben long replaced dave clarke at the jam, he beat juggled, or should i say used the pioneer to beat juggle, for his whole set. it was a dancefloor of blank faces who couldnt tell what he was doing and where left with nothing to dance to. shame really.Quote:
Originally Posted by serox
Well I had it clarified to me earlier that it's neither Richard Harvey or Dean Cole. Richard Harvey is a person but not User, Dean Cole did some live sets under the User alias but is not actually User either? The plot thickens!! It's defo one of the Birmingham boys anyway. That Dead or Alive "You Spin me" bootleg by Burns is also produced by User I reckon. Tony, who the **** is it??Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
No need to tell actually, I wouldn't want you to break your code of honour :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
i always heard it was dean cole or richard harvey but someone recently said it was function too and now im really confused :cool:
Exactly. Tony's life would be forfeit if he spoke out. Worse than the mafia, these brummie techno lot. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
And this topic turned around to be interesting afterall :D
Ofcourse i think techno is music!!! duhhh
Someone mentioned Detroit techno. Well most of the Detroti DJ / producers played in funk & industrial bands Like Blake Baxter and good old Jeff Mills himself. I don't know if anybody knew about Jeff having a long break after his 'The Wizzard' hiphop project.
Final Cut was his next project, a period he casually refers to as his "industrial days". A 3-piece band, they released just one record, 'Deep Into The Cut', in 1989 on Detroit's Full Effect Records. Most Mills fans today are entirely unaware of the group's existence. At that time in Detroit industrial was really big, and the two formats of music became mixed in certain situations, and Final Cut was actually one of them. There was one album and then they worked with Al Jourgensen [Ministry /Revolting Cocks]. Jeff's studio was very new, he had just built a brand new studio but when they made the album he was learning how to work with the studio.
Check out the 'Deep Into The Cut' record nowadays and it's hard not to arrive at the conclusion that in many ways Final Cut acted as a prototype for Underground Resistance, the seminal group/label founded by 'Mad' Mike Banks and Mills, and also including Robert The Vision' Hood. The sleeve, for example, is peppered with the same kind of militant slogans and statements of intent that appeared on many a UR release: declarations like 'Punishment to Fit the Crime', 'We give you the power to open any darkness' and, perhaps most telling of all, The future of dance music' cannot help but bring to mind UR's calls-to-arms like 'Revolution for change' and 'Hard music from a hard city'. Also present are apocalyptic graphics of Nazis and a skull-faced Statue of Liberty, themselves reminiscent of the burning cityblocks portrayed on, for example, UR's biopic 1992 compilation LP, 'Revolution For Change'.
Both these records' sleeves carry longer pieces of text and you don't need a degree in English literature to see the similarities:
OPEN YOUR EYES and see a world in which we live. THE PROSECUTED go without cause, listless and complacent, and as their hate goes into a frenzy, they stand, echoing chants of BURN BABY BURN are heard. So in the underground we search to find, THE ESCAPE. When we speak of the prosecuted we mean those who are constantly subjected to senseless pain in everyday life. NOW THAT'S FUNKY will move you in a way we could only express in lyricless thoughts, it's for those of you that seek the alternative HARMONY. So as you listen deep into the cut, you'll say to yourself "I TOLD YOU NOT TO STOP", and you'll journey on to find, the CELESTIAL UNDERGROUND. - Final Cut: Deep Into The Cut
By using the untapped energy potential of sound we are going to destroy this wall much the same as certain frequencies shatter glass. Techno is a music based in experimentation; H is sacred to no one race; it has no definitive sound. It is music for the future of the Human Race. Without this music there will be no peace, no love, no vision. By simply communicating through sound, Techno has brought together people of all different nationalities together under one roof to enjoy themselves, isn't it obvious that music and dance are the keys to the universe? So called primitive animals and tribal humans have known this for thousands of years! We urge all brothers and sisters of the underground to create and transmit their tones and frequencies no matter how so called primitive their equipment may be. Transmit these tones and wreck [sic] havoc on the programmers! Long live the Underground...
- Underground Resistance: Revolution For Change
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
User was an Integrale label.
What happened with it?
One more remark:
in the past, and nowadays still hapening, a lot of distributions telling people "this music is to experimental". I think this is just a lame excuse to say they are not interested in listening the real techno. :roll:
erm, i've got a load of them. i think harveys got a load. any1 wants them, 3euro each (about £2.00 after conversion) and double pax for 5Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritzi Lee
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whats the shnizzle drizzle on the Utility Plastics Tony mc Frizzle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
(any uP for sale my old chap?)
thanks for the translation.
yep, tonnes of utility platics, zet, sheer, sheep, framework, you name it!!
you got a catalogue list or something from your stock?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
pm me an email address