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08-03-2008, 12:05 AM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by djshiva

ok then. i can tell who's worth my time arguing with, and you certainly are not.

have a nice life.

yet you keep replying?
08-03-2008, 12:22 AM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by massplanck

Seriously. If there is one person on here you should ignore when they comment on music, its Aratron.

quoted for truth

i dunno though , i can only say what my opinion is from my own perspective.
dub-step just seems like something for the new heroin generation.
although i know a lot of people who passionate about music like the genre. all i am saying is that i dont.
08-03-2008, 08:48 AM
...Dave...

i have really tried. I have heard some amazing dubstep tunes, as great as some of it is, it just doesn't press the right buttons with me.

And it does seem a tad pretentious too.:yup:
and very samey.
08-03-2008, 09:36 AM
RitchieP

music for tards imo
08-03-2008, 11:27 AM
RDR

Have you seen inside a trance club at 4am?

Its hard NOT to find a tard.
08-03-2008, 07:00 PM
DannyBlack

Well i don't know about you f"ckers, but i like it. :lol: Im excited by the bass and the grimey sounds.
08-03-2008, 07:11 PM
theledge

Quite like some of it, not sure why it doesn't float my boat completely convincingly though
09-03-2008, 02:34 AM
DannyBlack

There are some tracks that I have heard so far on my 3 day dubstep adventure that sound a bit well, for lack of a better word... plastic. A little churned out. But you get that with every genre really. There are aspects of techno that sound a bit plastic too. You know when you hear a DJ caning a "filler" track. Timo Maas has a habit of doing it.
09-03-2008, 09:57 AM
Aratron

@The Mods.

Could we move this thread to the Alternative Forum please?

As it is clearly not appropriate for a Techno Forum. I know the majority of members are in agreement with me aswell.
09-03-2008, 09:58 AM
theledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

@The Mods.

Could we move this thread to the Alternative Forum please?

As it is clearly not appropriate for a Techno Forum. I know the majority of members are in agreement with me aswell.

:lol:
09-03-2008, 10:33 AM
Traxx

Dub step has really took off for me. All im really listening to at the moment. Check the benga essential mix out, guys got some weighty tunes behind him. Also the caspa & rusko fabric cd.
09-03-2008, 12:29 PM
Jay Pace

I can't get my head round dubstep. Just does nothing for me.
Might change my mind on it if I hear it live, but the hype surrounding it escapes me.
There's a couple of killer Vex'd tracks, and a couple from Skream, maybe a couple from Burial... but as a genre I don't really get it.
09-03-2008, 02:51 PM
theledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

I can't get my head round dubstep. Just does nothing for me.
Might change my mind on it if I hear it live, but the hype surrounding it escapes me.
There's a couple of killer Vex'd tracks, and a couple from Skream, maybe a couple from Burial... but as a genre I don't really get it.

To be honest mate I'd rather listen to it at home

That's the problem for me, it doesn't really work live. Unless you're stoned/k'ed out of your head perhaps, it doesn't have the right energy for me.

There is the odd exception, but..........too much hype
09-03-2008, 05:44 PM
DannyBlack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

@The Mods.

Could we move this thread to the Alternative Forum please?

As it is clearly not appropriate for a Techno Forum. I know the majority of members are in agreement with me aswell.

:rolleyes: My bad.
10-03-2008, 03:16 AM
djshiva

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

@The Mods.

Could we move this thread to the Alternative Forum please?

As it is clearly not appropriate for a Techno Forum. I know the majority of members are in agreement with me aswell.

once again, the self-declared expert has spoken.
10-03-2008, 08:21 AM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by djshiva

once again, the self-declared expert has spoken.

thats right mate.

though im pleased to see that people whose opinions i value more than yours detest this excuse for a music style aswell.
10-03-2008, 08:28 AM
DannyBlack

Easy china! You don't like it, thats cool mate- take it easy though eh! Its a discussion, no ones forcing you into dubstep! I didn't think of putting it in the alternative forum, so if ye want to move it thats cool. But 'Tron, take the sand out of vagina mate! :lol:
10-03-2008, 08:52 AM
C.O.Prodigy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

though im pleased to see that people whose opinions i value more than yours detest this excuse for a music style aswell.

why would you detest any form of creativity? Personally there is stuff that I've heard people describe as dubstep that doesn't really jive with me, but that said there are also tracks that also people classify into the breakbeat/dubstep bracket that I quite enjoy, sometimes go mad fo'.

I don't see why one must judge dupstep by whole "genre" and not by the music they like which came out outta the bracket that is dubstep. imo it's so new it's not worth judging, call it like it is, say what you like say what you don't and give a reason why. I though this was a music forum? :) details pls

anyways... a friend recommended tracks from this artist http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Shackleton/
http://www.skulldisco.com/node/143
10-03-2008, 09:00 AM
DannyBlack

Sound mate! checking it out now!
10-03-2008, 12:07 PM
djshiva

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

thats right mate.

though im pleased to see that people whose opinions i value more than yours detest this excuse for a music style aswell.

ooooh does it make you feel superior? seems like a lonely existence, sitting on the internets (12,000+ posts, eh?), slagging anything that doesn't fit your tiny tiny vision of what music should be.

i hope it's satisfying, ****ing prick.

it's people like you that ruin music by narrowing the boundaries until the life is ****ing squeezed right out of it.
10-03-2008, 12:10 PM
eyeswithoutaface

Calvin's trolling you guys good style here

knowing him he's probably never heard a single dubstep track in his life ;)
10-03-2008, 12:23 PM
eyeswithoutaface

and on the subject of dubstep, doesnt do a thing for me im afraid, i appreciate some of it for its production value's but as a genre i think its massively over hyped, but thats the same with alot of things, and just doesnt hit any buttons for me at all, much the same as drum and bass really
10-03-2008, 12:27 PM
theledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by djshiva

ooooh does it make you feel superior? seems like a lonely existence, sitting on the internets (12,000+ posts, eh?), slagging anything that doesn't fit your tiny tiny vision of what music should be.

i hope it's satisfying, ****ing prick.

it's people like you that ruin music by narrowing the boundaries until the life is ****ing squeezed right out of it.

:lol: :lol:

http://www.reelmello.com/images/trip%20permit.jpg
10-03-2008, 12:41 PM
clubsynthetic

dubstep is good, like some breaks to me. some are shit, some are good. of course there is hype, who cares about hype? i haven't listened to monumental amounts of dubstep but can certainly say it has good points and much potential. One of the only holdbacks i can see is keeping it in its own genre and not developing it the way one should feel it needs to for them, making it UNIQUE.

I have dubstep tunes in my techno sets and it breaks it up very, very well.

And i really like Milanese's sounds.
10-03-2008, 01:01 PM
DannyBlack

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

and on the subject of dubstep, doesnt do a thing for me im afraid, i appreciate some of it for its production value's but as a genre i think its massively over hyped, but thats the same with alot of things, and just doesnt hit any buttons for me at all, much the same as drum and bass really

Thats just it, i missed all the hype. Im in south east Ireland and the only guy I know plays it lives in the same house as me.
I just got a giggly when i heard it on youtube. its the bass that gets me and that gritty feeling.
10-03-2008, 01:22 PM
eyeswithoutaface

over here things went dubstep crazy, radio 1 jumped all over the dubstep crews and already for me things are too saturated, every man and his dog is into it already. Now apparently there is already something called "Bassline" which is dubstep with 4/4 rhythms or something. I dunno, i really dont keep up to date with the latest trends/names etc i just like what i like

the only dubstep i suppose i listen to is the Voidloss and Villian set, again, mostly for the production values
10-03-2008, 04:11 PM
wrong

Dunno if anyone's posted this already but its quite funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdOi-gdL58g

And just to clarify.. yes the people who have a clear vision make great stuff , the people who try and immitate them usually end up sounding like just that.. just to make sure that posting this video isn't seen as a slur on the whole thing.. made me chuckle first time i saw it
10-03-2008, 04:20 PM
DannyBlack

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrong

Dunno if anyone's posted this already but its quite funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdOi-gdL58g

And just to clarify.. yes the people who have a clear vision make great stuff , the people who try and immitate them usually end up sounding like just that.. just to make sure that posting this video isn't seen as a slur on the whole thing.. made me chuckle first time i saw it

:lol: thats class!
10-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by djshiva

ooooh does it make you feel superior? seems like a lonely existence, sitting on the internets (12,000+ posts, eh?), slagging anything that doesn't fit your tiny tiny vision of what music should be.

i hope it's satisfying, ****ing prick.

it's people like you that ruin music by narrowing the boundaries until the life is ****ing squeezed right out of it.

ad homing it now
10-03-2008, 06:33 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

knowing him he's probably never heard a single dubstep track in his life ;)

:lol:

Predictions for 2011... Aratron actually listens to some Dubstep and frantically posts about how great this new music is, then asks "Who are Vex'd?"
10-03-2008, 06:36 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

and on the subject of dubstep, doesnt do a thing for me im afraid, i appreciate some of it for its production value's but as a genre i think its massively over hyped, but thats the same with alot of things, and just doesnt hit any buttons for me at all, much the same as drum and bass really

i always appreciate your opinion dude. As being an accuarate barometer of what represents good taste musically. Yet again you have confirmed this belief.

I have been sent quite a few Dubstep mixes one by our mutual friend The Divide, which i listened to thoroughly out of respect for our friendship.
Luckily it was strong enough to survive the wasted hour i spent listening to it.
Basically it represents a safe medium for people who have no talent in mixing.
Everyone is either too depressed or too smacked out on Ketamine or Heroin to give a **** about what is playing anyway.
I think i could play Max Bygraves at the slowest speed possible and you havent have a clue it wasnt progressive Dub-Step.
10-03-2008, 06:37 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubsynthetic

And i really like Milanese's sounds.

Milanese is the asbolute rudeness.

Totally defies categorisation.
10-03-2008, 06:38 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

:lol:

Predictions for 2011... Aratron actually listens to some Dubstep and frantically posts about how great this new music is, then asks "Who are Vex'd?"

how about you read my post after yours.

i have listened to it. its shit. really ****ing shit. im attacking the object not the person. and i have raised to you as a mod now that i do not like being called a prick by DJ Shiva. This is an ad hom and i would appreciate to be able to express my opions onhere without being personally attacked.
10-03-2008, 07:01 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

over here things went dubstep crazy, radio 1 jumped all over the dubstep crews and already for me things are too saturated, every man and his dog is into it already. Now apparently there is already something called "Bassline" which is dubstep with 4/4 rhythms or something. I dunno, i really dont keep up to date with the latest trends/names etc i just like what i like

Bassline House is just rebranded Speed Garage.
10-03-2008, 07:10 PM
stjohn

oh come on ffs... opinions are one thing. you come on like a jealous lil schoolgirl that didnt get the boyfriend. what did u say to dirty bass that one time he posted a dubstep tune? then u come on with some wannabe 'nice' talk trying to play the freedom of speech card.

****ing Lame!!!

re the mixing bit.. the likes of Milanese mixes dub/raggae/hardcore.. all in the same set, loads of tempo changes with loads of variation! top marks for mixing for him!!

C.O Prodigy speaks the truth.. why divide stuff into genres...?? a mix of this and a mix of that and everyones happy!
10-03-2008, 07:18 PM
stjohn

http://www.chrome-metronome.net/lame.jpg

if u want an IRA version, let me know :rolleyes:
10-03-2008, 07:21 PM
...Dave...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrong

Dunno if anyone's posted this already but its quite funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdOi-gdL58g

And just to clarify.. yes the people who have a clear vision make great stuff , the people who try and immitate them usually end up sounding like just that.. just to make sure that posting this video isn't seen as a slur on the whole thing.. made me chuckle first time i saw it

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:
10-03-2008, 07:27 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by stjohn

http://www.chrome-metronome.net/lame.jpg

if u want an IRA version, let me know :rolleyes:

yes please at least it might be from a genuine irish man then.
10-03-2008, 11:34 PM
C.O.Prodigy

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

Predictions for 2011... Aratron actually listens to some Dubstep and frantically posts about how great this new music is, then asks "Who are Vex'd?"

:lol: prolly

anyways thought some might enjoy this Crooked One - Soul Eater
11-03-2008, 11:12 AM
massplanck

Aratron. STFU

Creativity is creativity. Its not anyones fault except your own that all you have ever listened to/appreciated/bought/or mixed over the last 10 years has been Acid Techno.

You butt in on DB calling his dubstep tracks shit, you call Zeitgeist tunes 'lame' without ever listening to them, you 'discover' Speedy J & Steve Stoll 15 years after everyone else, and you wholly admit to not having a tune in you head.

**** off man.

The first half decent discussion about music on this site in a while and you turn it into a drama with you at the centre of it all.

Wasteman.
11-03-2008, 11:16 AM
massplanck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

Basically it represents a safe medium for people who have no talent in mixing.
.

Post us up a mix so. Mr Talent.
11-03-2008, 11:41 AM
Si the Sigh

Some Vex'd stuff is ok, and some of the tracks out on Combat are worth a listen.
11-03-2008, 11:52 AM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si the Sigh

Some Vex'd stuff is ok, and some of the tracks out on Combat are worth a listen.

Amen to both of those.

I tend to keep an ear out for Planet μ as well.

Alternatively I just pop into BM Soho and say "I'll have a listen to anything with obscenely rude bass noises".
11-03-2008, 11:59 AM
C.O.Prodigy

Quote:

Originally Posted by massplanck

you 'discover' Speedy J & Steve Stoll 15 years after everyone else,

:lol: hilarious

*laughing in office"

not having a go at you Aratron, just had to post about how much I enjoyed massplanck's sence of humor there...

ps. one more namedrop

Appleblim - Mystical Warrior
11-03-2008, 12:17 PM
force

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

Bassline House is just rebranded Speed Garage.

So probably best avoided then.
11-03-2008, 12:46 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by force

So probably best avoided then.

Meh, I have a soft spot for bits of speed garage.

187 Lockdown - Gunman, for example.

What is it about wobbly bass and gunshot noises that works so well?
11-03-2008, 01:11 PM
koma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjwtVjZtQGk

one of my favourite tunes from the last years, brilliant rmx IMO
11-03-2008, 01:48 PM
massplanck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

i have listened to it. its shit. really ****ing shit. im attacking the object not the person.

Then why are you implying that people who listen to it ( ie for example the Divide & others) are a heroin junkies & k-heads with no talent?
When in fact I bet you take more drugs (prescribed & illegal) than most people here and have admitted serveral times that you are 'completly talentless' and dont have a note in your head.

If you dont like something then fair enough (see scotts comments for example) but no need to act the complete tool.You ****ed up enough forums on this site and ruined them. Last place to to act the bollocks is in here it seems.
11-03-2008, 03:50 PM
SlavikSvensk

back to the discussion, i'm someone who has listened to a bit of dubstep but haven't been as impressed as some others are. but i'm open minded.

anyone care to link up a mix or two that might change the mind?
11-03-2008, 03:51 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

anyone care to link up a mix or two that might change the mind?

There are loads on the first page of this thread Slav.

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