London is pretty stale these days.
The choice is gangster ridden squats, or one or two other nights that either play acid techno, or the more pure end of techno.
Same names week in week out.
I hope we can open things up a little bit.
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London is pretty stale these days.
The choice is gangster ridden squats, or one or two other nights that either play acid techno, or the more pure end of techno.
Same names week in week out.
I hope we can open things up a little bit.
Come on you Brazilian nutters, we're waiting! must be bangin in SP and Rio...
anybody out there from BA or Montevideo? would love to hear about your scenes as well.
our scene in LA sucks. Driod Behavior is the only crew that really supports techno...most people here like "happy hardcore" and trance. bleh.
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Sacramento, California
Its really slow here, I would say the techno scene is almost non-existant... but with enough effort a scene can exist anywhere. We've hosted Chris Liberator, Julian Liberator, Ant, and DDR over several events in the past 2 years. We're planning an event with Aaron Liberator right now for August. The kids really like techno and they eat it up at our events, but they don't hear it after that and their interest fades, because we are pretty much the only ones doing these events.
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Originally Posted by anx
our site: www.techno-truth.com
Washington DC/Baltimore USA
As the rest of US, there is no regular techno nights. We always try to get Buzz (www.buzzlife.com) to book some techno, and they do it maybe 3 times a year (Hawtin just played a week ago). Several great techno djs and producers live in the area but they don't get booked locally. Bryan Zentz lives in Norfolk, VA (about 3 hours from DC) and they have their own little scene there. There are also couple crews in Philly who throw parties but nothing huge. But on a positive note I see more and more people learning/getting into Techno which is nice. I believe that Tronic Treatment (NYC) was the most important Techno night in the East Coast, but I've heard that Christian Smith is moving to Europe and they wont be doing that anymore either (correct me if I am wrong). So thats the news from east coast.
What scene lol, In cornwall there are loads of free parties, in the summer, but no clubs play techno.
Ive started my own low key techno nite, going once a month at the min. Which has been going well. Im hoping cornwall will wake up to the techno sound & stop listening to ****ing lisa lashes & lisa pin up
great idea this posting, good reading.
here techno is small.
I have toured D.A.V.E the Drummer, Chris lib, Zebedee (restless natives uk) , Thermobee, Psynrg and response was strong.
I play out all the time but always beside HH,HD,HS djs or beside House or techhouse maybe if you're lucky. We have a strong Detroit following in the largest city.
HH,HD,HS is huge here....im always warned not to play techno at these events but of course i do :lol:
i think things here are ready to explode but need to be ignited in the major citites. I have no money to run events at the moment. but im sure if and when someone gives it a good push it will go.
The strong reactions i get here whenever i play indoors and outdoors gives me hope:))
the one thing that makes me laugh here is that when the night ends everyone goes home generally.....no arguments....hehehe
oooh shit. forgot pure filth. proper proper night. mind u it is in lenton. practically a city of its own with all those students!! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by dan the acid man
here in New England there is NO scene! im like the only techno dj here. this place sucks big time.
Where I live, which is out in the boondocks of california, the scene used to be such a mad house of DJ's playing trance/house/jungle and other shit I don't even want to mention. So I finally got a couple of gigs, and the second I played my first record "HYDRO 9" the entire place was stunned to hear PROPER HARD/TRIBAL TECHNO. Then half way through the set, I dropped my 303 tracks, and the whole place went completely ape shit... No one has ever heard the hard underground acid techno sound in the area I live. Then the people with the soundsystems stopped throwing parties, and I haven't been able to get out and show the masses what techno is all about. But my next target is in the city, which is notorious for cheesy, progressive pretty shit trance... And once I leave my techno mark, I will be sure that everyone will be converted to the techno scene, and will definitally stay hard, and stay up forever :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by PDT
well londons not as bad as some have said
although it is mainly london residents who play on my scene , the music has been good and varied recently.
in fact you can get away with a lot more here than some other places that i play that are still locked into that time warp of acid tchno or die .
last weekend me and darc marc played final scratch at chemical warfare at the mass and i must admit to it being a really interesting night just for the fact that we had really new and unplayed tracks to play with.
marcs set was fantastic and i had a good time too.
most of all it went down well.
as far as more commercial events go don't forget l.garnier at the end every month and antiworlds teknoworld room is getting more diverse artsists in such as the youngsters , liebing and dave clark are coming soon.
i know you guys may have already seen them but the squat crowd haven't or the psy trancers so it'll be a fresh vibe for them and the crowd.
so far valentino has rocked it the most and everyone loved him.
sorry to read the u.s. posts.
i know how it is over there it's just so damn expensive to fly anyone from europe . but more than that kids are just so fickle over there. they don't hang in there and grow up with the music ( except a few of course)
i reckon it's the lack of good radio that's the problem there.
it's just hour upon hour of hip hop and rock. ( that's gotta hurt.)
On the subject of U.S scene - does anyone know if the European DJ's booked to play over there reduce their fees ?
Hometown, Preston,UK
Absolutely no techno scene at all! They tried a couple of bugged out nights featuring Green Velvet and Justin Robertson but the attendances were poor and it subsequently ended after 2 monthly events.
Ive lived in Liverpool though for the past 3 years and the techno scene has had its ups and downs. Voodoo was an amazing night when it was about,right up there with atomic jam as being the best techno night in the UK. Holds some great memorys. :clap:
Henry, I saw a couple of flyers here in Cali about a year or so back, and I really wanted to go, but it was a 21 and over type deal. Anyways, how did the people like/react to your sets? I had a friend who went to a party and you and I think Chris Liberator were playing, and he said you guys didn't even get half way through your set, then the crowd kinda just walked off the dance floor because they weren't used to the type of music EVERYONE else absolutely loves.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
I think the US has a lot of catching up to do and people should really stop being so closed minded about music they never heard. Year after year the electronic scene has evolved to new directions, you'd think people in the states would embrace that change. But I guess only time can when the kids over here will stop being closed minded and realize that techno/acid techno has a lot of energy and if given the chance, could really change the scene over here.... I just hope I am not dreaming hehe ;)
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Here in Dallas,Texas there are a few shows, but for the most part it is #1 House #2DnB #3 Trance/progressive. That's about it. You know it's bad when Dave Clarke only gets 40-50 people. The same for Misstress Barbara. There are no weeklies period. This past year there have only been 4 or 5 worthwhile shows. There are even people advertising themselves as "techno" DJs when they play hard progressive.
The only radio that plays techno in the US is college radio and then that's usually late at night when we are out anyways. If I ever do hear electronic music on commercial radio, it's usually Cher remixes and ilk like that. When I mention that I am into techno people often say stuff like "Wake up man, the rave scene has been dead for years." Lame.
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sorry to read the u.s. posts.
i know how it is over there it's just so damn expensive to fly anyone from europe . but more than that kids are just so fickle over there. they don't hang in there and grow up with the music ( except a few of course)
i reckon it's the lack of good radio that's the problem there.
it's just hour upon hour of hip hop and rock. ( that's gotta hurt
someone told me that when they went over to europe that you would hear the shit that (ugh i even dread to say hes from here) X-Dream plays here, on teh radio over there..even though his stuff is the mainstream of the underground here so to say, at least you guys got it on teh radio..
every hour its the same loop of songs..back street boys and brittany spears..bleh!
Here in Northern California a lot of the kids who have been listening to "NRG" (Hard House) and trance for the past few years are starting to get stoked on the hard tribal techno sound. I would say that they aren't into the acid sound so much as driving tribal techno, which has energy like the NRG (hehe) but has a more developed and mature sound to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidBastard
I would seriously like to meet the crowd of jerks who aren't into tribal techno, and have them shipped off to a remote island. Because anyone who is uptight and strictly into the progressive pretty shit/NRG sound which california is diggin' right now, makes me want to start an underground movement and teach those bastards that tribal techno/acid techno is a force to be reckoned with. Sorry if I sound like an asshole, but it's my day off and I've had a few too many beers hahaha :rambo:Quote:
Originally Posted by mek
But seriously, the only way to cause a mass music transition here in Cali, is to get every bedroom dj/underground tribal/acid techno dj together and leave a mark and impression on every kid who thinks they have heard everything. I have been to so many parties where every dj and every set sounds so similiar it's amazing no one has hired new acts to revamp the dance music scene. For **** sake, I envy everyone in the UK, because you guys are already in the loop, and know what I am talking about because every squat you goto, you get to hear DJ's play these amazing sets of techno. But I am going off on a tangent, so I think I'll finish this 12 pack and crank the new records I just got :bash:
lol lil angry mate? :lol:
techno in madrid is kool sometimes. we have a lot of the same shit over and over though and it is pretty saturated.... tokyo is cool too but again, only a few artists playing over and over and lots of big corporate sponsorships....
Oh damn! :lol: Yeah I understand your frustration.. they'll come around sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidBastard
funny how the grass is always greener on the other side :lol:
well to expand on the LA techno scene a bit...
Droid Behavior in the past two years has certainly come a long way, lots of good parties with an intimate vibe (100-300 people), and a new record label with a couple releases out so far. Other LA labels include Automat, Global Trax, Hard Hat, Traxstars, and we'll be doing our first Heavy Industries records soon too. We have a few dedicated collectives trying to push techno in parties, releases, Internet, whatever... it's sure small considering the size of this city, but it also avoids a lot of mainstream interference that way too. All the DJs I've talked to who have played at techno parties out here have had great times. The techno crowd here is small but dedicated and supportive.
We have a monthly minimal techno night called Mixture which features people like Dan Bell, John Tejada, Magda, etc. and even the superclubs like Avalon and Spundae will occasionaly host the larger techno names like Beyer, Hawtin and Vath. So at least we have options out here - occasionaly - for where to see techno and who to see. Very rarely are there conflicting parties, actually the one party I threw out here back in February was the only time this happened (I had Geoff White & Tejada, they had Monolake, and one other guy had Liefhebber). So the good part about this is you are pretty much guaranteed to have no competition if you decided to do a techno event.
I see things getting bigger here over time - there is already some national recognition for Droid and the LA movement, well I should say "revival" cause techno used to be big here at one point in the 90s. It's really hard to get people interested again though because they already went through the crazy California rave years and are kinda burnt out on it. But it's fun because there are tons of talented 'newbies' out here just waiting to get exposed. I think LA will finally receive its place on the proverbial techno map in the months ahead.
I would seriously like to meet the crowd of jerks who aren't into tribal techno, and have them shipped off to a remote island. Because anyone who is uptight and strictly into the progressive pretty shit/NRG sound which california is diggin' right now, makes me want to start an underground movement and teach those bastards that tribal techno/acid techno is a force to be reckoned with.
hehe too late :lol:
we got a similar ball rolling down here right now...so far so good :clap:
PDT forgot to mention the acid tekno scene in melbourne - henry having been here nos its not much... and those who love it have no choice but to try and make it (**cheers to chris and collette**) the "commerical" scene dont take it the way we do, and the acid tekno djs that play at "Commercal" events dont play anywhere near as hard as they do to a crowd they no love acid tekno....... with virus gone and no more UPN parties..... shout out to itchy and krew for kicking on with 909.... coz in the end 909 is all the acid tekno melbourne has.....
IM MOVING TO LONDON!!!!
on top of that above gripe........ melbourne does pretty much cater for any taste of music.... im just a one eyed acid tekno punk! :lol:
There are several problems factoring into LA’s lack of techno...The main problem is (as NOS said) Cali peaked hard in the late 90's and its really crashed hard from it. Raves (weather Techno, House or Dnb) of 25k/30k people were almost every weekend... it was out of control. I was throwing 500 head underground techno parties in Venice every six weeks in 99' and I had to make it strictly invite only otherwise it would have melted down. (D.D.Drummer, you know the pad!!) However, more than any city I've been to in that time, LA's extacy use was out of control. Nobody saw the dark daze coming and in 2001-2002 night life hit the skids as the drug took its effects. It did not help that it also coincided with a work shortage as the entertainment industry hit the skids all around.
Overall LA has yet to really recover. Many of the old heads are still beat down or moved away. Myself I still prefer to be a hermit as well, although, its starting to well up inside me that its time to go back to my extroverted ways. LA being a transient city, new people are always coming though and who knows when the next up cycle will peak or if techno will even be a part of it. If it wants to be, it need to be innovative as people here really seek to be attached to new movements.
To go on the record.. Personally, I think the purist techno thing is done here. My prediction is that the next important wave will see breaks and techno colliding.
not great but its growing. gettin better every weekend.
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I think they actually try and raise their prices. I've heard of huge names in Europe trying to get more for crappy gigs in the states than they usually do in Europe. I guess it varies from performer to performer though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stella Boy
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good luck getting anyone to pay higher prices
over here in scotland the techno scene is amazing.......
lots of free partys over the summer, thers about 5 techno nights running in edinburgh...
each one is doing pretty well with numbers and bringing some good guests, local and outsiders...
the folk that come are up for it to say the least....gotta be said the scottish crowds are amazing...
Some good producers about to and a few are getting out in the shops with decent success.......good few live acts aswell.
Overall id say the techno scene about here is slowly growing.....its all good.
Good to see. I remember back in 1999/2000 when it was booming as well and it looked like Edinburgh would become a real techno stronghold. Then it kind of died away a little bit, I know a lot of people I used to see out and about got quite disillusioned with it all. Been hearing good reports over the last 18 months though!Quote:
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yeh it did take a bit off a dip but over the last year or so edinburgh has really boomed with techno, its great to see.Quote:
Good to see. I remember back in 1999/2000 when it was booming as well and it looked like Edinburgh would become a real techno stronghold. Then it kind of died away a little bit, I know a lot of people I used to see out and about got quite disillusioned with it all. Been hearing good reports over the last 18 months though
i remember going to lost(now dogma) a year and half ago as was prob about 300-500 folk, ther now hittin 900 regularlly..
can only be good...
take it your not up in edinburgh much now??
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Chicago, IL USA
I have a slightly diff opinion. People like Rich Hawtin and T Raumschmiere will always get a good response. I think the scene is healthy when the locals (palomo, vega, knee, apocolypse, etc..) get as good a response, and the crowd is there for the music rather than just the special occassion that can't be missed.
I'm new here, so maybe I'm jaded, but also, it's all clubland here. Besides smartbar and emptybottle its all about $10 drinks, bad lighting, etc. Not much of an underground scene. Also, to me, when a scene is healthy it lives for itself. Not just to catch a show like a movie, and then back to cubicle land.
But I grew up with the Detroit scene. An urban legend that lives up to it's status, so maybe I'm just a little spoiled, jaded, or a combination of both. FYI, it WAS a religious experience, just in case you're wondering! :P
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900! Great stuff.Quote:
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Nah, I lived in Edinburgh from 96-2000, moved down to London to go to uni and decided to stay down here. I can't remember the last techno night I went to in Edinburgh, possibly DJ Rush @Dogma in 2002. I've been back up a few times but got so many people to catch up with that checking out the clubs takes a back seat really. And now my folks have moved down to Somerset I don't know when I'll be back up next!
Got some great memories though, had some amazing nights at the likes of Apex, Pillbox, Resistance, Pure, Subtle Logic, Loop etc. Also the big free party out at Gullane in 2001, and all the quarry parties. The days of the third room in the Studios, there was some real messiness up there sometimes! :lol:
yeh but when it is 900 the studios is too rammed for my likin, 700 and its busy but still nice....Quote:
900! Great stuff.
Nah, I lived in Edinburgh from 96-2000, moved down to London to go to uni and decided to stay down here. I can't remember the last techno night I went to in Edinburgh, possibly DJ Rush @Dogma in 2002. I've been back up a few times but got so many people to catch up with that checking out the clubs takes a back seat really. And now my folks have moved down to Somerset I don't know when I'll be back up next!
Got some great memories though, had some amazing nights at the likes of Apex, Pillbox, Resistance, Pure, Subtle Logic, Loop etc. Also the big free party out at Gullane in 2001, and all the quarry parties. The days of the third room in the Studios, there was some real messiness up there sometimes! :lol:
yeh i was ther at the rush night, he played some good hard techno but wasent that tight..... I had a great night tho...
If your ever up try looking out for a night at the venue called jakN(plug plug)....me and my mates run it and its turning into a very good night, always an electric atmosphere.....
Ah the free partys at yellow craigs....i missed the 2001 one but in 2002 and 2003 we had a rig ther.....absiloooootely brillent nights, amazing wether and just well off the hook,
and the quarrys are still going stong, but ther alot happening elsewher aswell now...
3rd room in the studios???never knew it was ther..
must be hidden now, ther just 2 upstairs down stairs....i cant see the studios lasting much longer, the fukers have benn building flats around it and now they have to limit the sound volume cos of complaints....its REALLY annoying-such a good club with a great vibe with shite sound...and ther building more flats i believe.......
Damm, same at the venue, think that will only have anuther 5years left, then were do we go??
david bitterman....he's so bitter :lol:
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"The Bitter Man EP" - coming soon lol
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Yeah I can see why that'd be a pain, the Studios never had a load of space for chilling if need be. Especially when they changed the bar and seating area at the back, there was a lot more space before.Quote:
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Was a good set, didn't really go anywhere except relentless though, lol. Bit of a weird atmosphere that night as well I thought, which is kind of what put me off going there again when I visited...thought I'd rather spend time with my mates and have a banter!Quote:
yeh i was ther at the rush night, he played some good hard techno but wasent that tight..... I had a great night tho...
Will do mate, I'm sure I'll be back up again sometime soon so I'll keep my eyes peeled. I keep meaning to go up for Access as my old mate Pyz has a hand in it and I haven't seen or spoken to him in donks.Quote:
If your ever up try looking out for a night at the venue called jakN(plug plug)....me and my mates run it and its turning into a very good night, always an electric atmosphere.....
Haha, aye they were great eh? Techno booming out while people went up into the woods or looked out over the beach, drum & bass on the tennis courts...mental stuff, you'd see so many random people there as well who all turned out to know each other, that's what made them special.Quote:
Ah the free partys at yellow craigs....i missed the 2001 one but in 2002 and 2003 we had a rig ther.....absiloooootely brillent nights, amazing wether and just well off the hook,
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and the quarrys are still going stong, but ther alot happening elsewher aswell now...
Aye, when you come in you've got that bit to the left where you can get through to the main room, well if you turned left instead of right you followed a corridor round to a really narrow flight of steps. You went up those and there was a big chill-out area where people just sat on the floor, another set of decks to the right where they'd play all sorts, and a few stalls set up selling all sorts of random stuff. There was also the infamous big chair, hahaQuote:
3rd room in the studios???never knew it was ther..
They closed it in 2001 I think, cos of the flats built opposite. Shame, there was a lot of randomness went on up there, those daft incidents that make a night ye know?
Aye, it's a great club. They've been saying for 3 or 4 years it'll be closing down but I guess now it looks like it might well do. Can't believe they limit the sound now, but I guess as it's been developed around it they don't have a choice. Part of the appeal was how remote it was, that's a real shame.Quote:
must be hidden now, ther just 2 upstairs down stairs....i cant see the studios lasting much longer, the fukers have benn building flats around it and now they have to limit the sound volume cos of complaints....its REALLY annoying-such a good club with a great vibe with shite sound...and ther building more flats i believe......
The great outdoors ;)Quote:
Damm, same at the venue, think that will only have anuther 5years left, then were do we go??
The scene in North wales is pritty good at the moment. Saying that it always has been. The welsh love techno!
The clubs are small and some are converted old barns having open fires in them!! (Hendra Hall) but the atmosphere is amazing!
There is Time/Amser in Bangor where MarkEG has played a fair few times. We had Adam Beyer n all a long time ago. (Think his production has gone soft at the mo!!)
Funk D'Void also played in Manipulate in Hendra Hall which was nice.
There are other nights held in areas such as swallow falls. The Tech Fest!
Zig Zags is a lil crusty party that goes on if you want to get totally distroyed and party for a few days!
its not too bad here in Wales for techno!
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100 % agree with this opinion!!! Techno must be keeping small and not such as Hardstyle.. The Dutch Techno lovers know what i mean..
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Originally Posted by AcidBastard
big deal we have DEMF. i dont even enjoy 90% of the people playing it anyway. No radio play, the government has its stong views on the scene and people are puppets of MTV and mainstream radio. GET ME OUT OF HEREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!1 :roll: