true, they are big ass djs because of their recorded work. but this has nothing to do with whether or not their djing is any GOOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by rca
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true, they are big ass djs because of their recorded work. but this has nothing to do with whether or not their djing is any GOOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by rca
that would be hip hop djing. this thread is about techno djs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
"true, they are big ass djs because of their recorded work. but this has nothing to do with whether or not their djing is any GOOD"
But thats my point, and thats why these 3 are the best?!
Completely, much of the hard techno that is discussed in this forum leads back to Mills, and it's the same with his DJing style too. There's few people into hard techno who haven't been majorly influenced directly or indirectly by his records and DJ style.Quote:
Originally Posted by tioneb
right, wasn't speaking specifically to the names you mentioned. i was pointing out that you can become a huge dj on the merits of your productions and still be a crap dj.Quote:
Originally Posted by rca
you were talking about super star djs, i was talking about good djs. while we generally hope they are one in the same, of course, unfortunately, often they aren't.
MILLS
HAWTIN
SPEEDY J
BEYER
Lets not forget these 4 guys are def the pioneers of the techno schene, whether you like them or not, or whether you feel they've have or have'nt sold out. You have to agree, these guys, collectivly, are responsible for some fantastic techno music, some fantastic historic performances, and yes, fantastic bank balances....
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Originally Posted by Miromiric
marco remus, dj rush
speedy j aint no dj...Quote:
Originally Posted by rca
and the last time i saw him was at awakenings new year eve and i must say he sucked big time, kinda stucked in his own formula...
No, it's about "TECHNO ARTISTS WHO CAN BOTH PRODUCE & DJ BRILLIANTLY". It's true that Speedy J doesn't DJ but he certainly can if put to the test. This thread is about how producers can get the tracks done but can't master DJing; Speedy J has mastered DJing, the fact he gave it up or doesn't spin techno nowadays is not particularly relevent .Quote:
Originally Posted by g
If you've followed techno you can NOT slag BEYER off!!!!!
he's given us some classic techno gems, and the guy has fantastic technical ability, the only problem is a looks a little bit soft.
SPEEDY J @ ATOMIC JAM 2002 (I THINK)
THIS was the best techno performance (live, 2 x yamaha's, so ok NOT really DJ'ing) I have ever seen, if you were there? Hawtin came out after and as much as I rate the guy his set/performance was pathetic. The place just empty'd. Speedy J was just TO GOD DAMN GOOD !
you can if he doesn't do it for you, which is likely what miro was saying. no accounting for taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by rca
i stopped buying liebings "so called productions" as soon as i heard this. (coupled with the fact that this guy sits at the money end of techno)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
i dont like being taken for a ride. if i hear of any so called producers who follow the same route i shall not be purchasing their records either. i dont enjoy being ripped off.
to get somebody else to make music for you, and take all the credit falls nothing short of pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Sunil
And this is why I love Sunil.
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I totally agree. Whats worse is when they rip off/sample unknown artists too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col
Renato Cohen (this guy is a gun dj)
Dave Clarke
Adam Beyer
Ben Sims
Dave the Drummer
Jeff Mills
Samuel L Sessions
Top producers who are very consistant dj's
Surgeon (even tho he hasnt even touched decks in about a year, or practised on them)
James Ruskin
Ben Sims
Grovskopa
Dave Clarke
ruskin has to stick out for me. boy can he produce and bang it out. Oscar mulero too. Love his productions and he is one of the best dj's i have seen. Paul damage as mentioned is a very good producer and dj. love his beat scratching. Adam beyer. good dj on his day. about 3 years ago i rwally loved his sets. beyer and corola at the orbit was ace. Love his older stuff and has pionered hard tribally looped techno for me.
forgot to mention mullero. deffinantly top notchQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiptoe
for jochem, u may be right, but i had read that he had come from a hip hop djing background. hence the name spee- dj, :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by g
might be just a story though.