Has the era of funky energy driven techno died in the uk??

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Originally Posted by RitchieP

that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

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Minimal will eventually die out as people are already getting bored of it anways Techno has never died as it's always Evolving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by tekara

I just finished the interview with Joris Voorn that I had mentioned to you a few weeks back.

Some of the questions you guys wanted me to ask, were asked, and answered by him. He had some interesting things to say regarding the "minimal fad"......I'll try to copy and paste in a new thread tomorrow.

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I will be interested in what he has to say about the "minimal fad" I look forward to reading it

i like to play house techhouse and the funky side of techno never get bored then with one genre then great for long sets aswell techno will always go through fads as dave the drummer said find the stuff you like, ignore the brand name :smile:

The funk is where you find it i reckon... and energy...

it is what it is, and people find funk and energy in the strangest of places!

i dunno, sure techno can be funky and energetic but i think that's only one small part of what techno is about. and yeah, it's evolved MASSIVELY over the last 20 years and thank god. i mean i know kevin saunderson made some awesome basslines in the 80's but if we were all still listening to them now, well i think we'd be a little bored. hehe

i love what minimal has done for techno and i also love the fact that it gave the loopy clubby stuff the biggest kick up the ass that it had had for ten years. if i'm being totally honest, putting a techno set together for a energetic-style club night was originally a huge, huge challenge in the 90's and it gave you such a unique identity, cause no two sets were the same. but then it became almost like painting by numbers. i could go online and without even listening to the previews, order a load of new records by certain artists and be guaranteed a certain style or sound that would be easy to put together within the day.

now it's very very different. putting a techno set together is a huge, huge challenge and so much more enjoyable again with so much variety to choose from. sure keeping that 'energy' is very important as far as i'm concerned (uk techno dancefloor's are definitely much more energy driven than most others!!!), but the music is still out there - just alot less formulated than it had become.

i think as far as the more commercial uk club scene goes, there is a huge appreciation of techno once someone actually steps up and plays it. you should see the responses i've been getting recently in some places that you just wouldn't believe. in fact, last week i played gatecrasher and gave them 60 minutes of some of the most freshest underground techno you could imagine, straight after the tidy boys and before amber bloody d. the reaction was unbefeckinlievable - people were climbing the walls.

and as far as the underground scene in the uk goes, well it's still exactly that - underground. there's still pockets of ppl over the uk who truly believe it the music and as far as i can tell this hasnt changed at all.

i think the problem here is the music has developed and changed so fast over the last year or so that the club scene and the ppl organising/running the nights have been slow/scared to change in the uk. and that's typically of us here in the uk. where as the records shops and dancefloors speak for themselves with people open and ready for change, those running the nights are thinking that it's all going tits up when in fact it's them not understanding that they have to adapt and take risks. that's music. and it will be those that make that change that will be the ones who survive and take us through the next five years.

ok well that's quite enough rambling for one day. hahahahah

its not only techno that evolves, people do too and i think a natrual progression is too venture away from the boom boom banging stuff and get into slower, deeper and darker forms. its certainly the path ive taken and id hazard a guess at alot of other people doing this also. bang bang does get a bit boring (although its still great in small doses.)

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Originally Posted by basslinejunkie

its not only techno that evolves, people do too and i think a natrual progression is too venture away from the boom boom banging stuff and get into slower, deeper and darker forms. its certainly the path ive taken and id hazard a guess at alot of other people doing this also. bang bang does get a bit boring (although its still great in small doses.)

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I understand what your saying here but I dont think its a natural progression to get into sumtin slower . I think the more we listen to different artist's and different genres this will help the techno progression.
I believe a person who makes music will have many influcenes from what they have grew up listening to , the next generation will have totally different influcenes and this will bring music forward in general. If every one starts listening to slower stuff music will be boring. we need variety to move forward IMO

Has the era of funky energy driven techno died in the uk??

It hasn't died, its maybe in a bit of a lull at the mo compared to 5 years ago, but techno styles go round in cycles. There are still quite a few parties going on round the UK to hear this stuff, so not to worry, it will keep going. It should never be a mainstream sound like minimal is IMO & just played at a dozen or so nights around the UK playing it.

Still my favourite sound to play & dance to thou.

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Originally Posted by RitchieP

that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

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hahahahahahaha wot a load of toffs thinking this is music running round ibiza on kettemin hahahahahaah mate that word minimal should be changed to bloody ambient.

brilliant UK techno label and new tracks on Locked 003.

http://www.junodownload.com/products/1377415-02.htm

as they say its all about going looking for it.

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Originally Posted by gunjack

i love how this guy doesn't even distinguish between matt and i.

um gunjack = brian gibbs. er, me.

matt k. is some other dude i did some records with a while back.... and they are probably the LEAST funky tunes i have had out this year!

truth be told matt had about 3% to do with all the production work on those records. he just threw some vocal hooks my way, kept the weed coming and did the packaging.

yea you might want to explore techno a bit more before lumping it all in as "funky" and "out of style" etc because your london-centric view of "the state of the industry in the UK" is obviously an ignorant one.

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Good to see you get that out there B.
I'll be listening to Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band today.

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Originally Posted by tots

the svensk guy on this thread are stella boy comments folks,for some reason this has been edited????

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Originally Posted by tots

LOL!Energetic funky techno??Its not really that hard to disiphre is it stella boy???And that isnt the main point of the this thread is it really???And yes it does sound snide wots yer problem dude?with that reply youve just sent this thread derogetory before it even started!!

I am simply asking for an open minded opinion/view of the the techno scene in the uk today,not a q&a on how to lay down your view on genre!!!,sorry if im coming across as being out of order folks.

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Originally Posted by tots

Im basically saying are we flogging a dead horse buying and playing hard/energetic techno music in the uk as peeps here are so fashion driven and things evolve and change so fast here,dont get me wrong i will always be in to the harder darker side but are peeps like me gonna be very alone soon saying......I REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN............

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Originally Posted by tots

When i first quoted this comment it was from stella boy!!!and has been edited by moderators which have changed the name to slavik svensk for some reason???

is communism on its way back?????come on guys this is shit!!!

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Originally Posted by tots

THIS COMMENT WAS ORIGINALLY FROM STELLA BOY AND WAS CHANGED TO SLAVIKSVENSK,ALL I CAN SAY IS BE YOURSELF,I DONT HIDE BEHIND A CODENAME????

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slow down, speedy g.

you described something that was not clear, to me or to several other people who posted. in response, the bizarre chain of replies above ensued.

an honest question requires an honest answer, and no more.

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Originally Posted by MARK EG

i dunno, sure techno can be funky and energetic but i think that's only one small part of what techno is about. and yeah, it's evolved MASSIVELY over the last 20 years and thank god. i mean i know kevin saunderson made some awesome basslines in the 80's but if we were all still listening to them now, well i think we'd be a little bored. hehe

i love what minimal has done for techno and i also love the fact that it gave the loopy clubby stuff the biggest kick up the ass that it had had for ten years. if i'm being totally honest, putting a techno set together for a energetic-style club night was originally a huge, huge challenge in the 90's and it gave you such a unique identity, cause no two sets were the same. but then it became almost like painting by numbers. i could go online and without even listening to the previews, order a load of new records by certain artists and be guaranteed a certain style or sound that would be easy to put together within the day.

now it's very very different. putting a techno set together is a huge, huge challenge and so much more enjoyable again with so much variety to choose from. sure keeping that 'energy' is very important as far as i'm concerned (uk techno dancefloor's are definitely much more energy driven than most others!!!), but the music is still out there - just alot less formulated than it had become.

i think as far as the more commercial uk club scene goes, there is a huge appreciation of techno once someone actually steps up and plays it. you should see the responses i've been getting recently in some places that you just wouldn't believe. in fact, last week i played gatecrasher and gave them 60 minutes of some of the most freshest underground techno you could imagine, straight after the tidy boys and before amber bloody d. the reaction was unbefeckinlievable - people were climbing the walls.

and as far as the underground scene in the uk goes, well it's still exactly that - underground. there's still pockets of ppl over the uk who truly believe it the music and as far as i can tell this hasnt changed at all.

i think the problem here is the music has developed and changed so fast over the last year or so that the club scene and the ppl organising/running the nights have been slow/scared to change in the uk. and that's typically of us here in the uk. where as the records shops and dancefloors speak for themselves with people open and ready for change, those running the nights are thinking that it's all going tits up when in fact it's them not understanding that they have to adapt and take risks. that's music. and it will be those that make that change that will be the ones who survive and take us through the next five years.

ok well that's quite enough rambling for one day. hahahahah

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Word!!!What an absolute wicked thread this has turned out to be!!Al the best folks...

burn the bandwagon !!!

club sense, yes, i would say so. i still play choons from ages ago with new stuff. playing something old can be have more effect than playing something new at times. i'm with Fuk-Nut on this one.

for me, the party was dead when i moved..

the diverse sound of 'techno' is ever changing, and tbh all of the genres within techno.. minimal, acid, wonky, funky etc etc.. were kinda seperated..

you find the sounds you like and discover more, or get shown more by others..

the free party scene is always alive in the summer - so keep your ears to the ground..

techno is always changing, that's why i can be 2000miles away - no chance of a party happening.. but still love music! and still buy the odd bit when it grabs me..

good luck on your search ;-)

Whats that scene like rog? any techno there at all?

At the end of the day peoples tastes change, i know mine does. It doesn't mean i abandon a certain sound completely, i'd look to incorporate various styles in a set anyway.

certain music styles, even you dont love em, they can bring new perspectives to the same things. i think thats the move forward for the music, generally.
personally i am not into minimal, but must say, production wise it can sound pretty wicked on big rig. real dynamics, basically the thing which is pretty hard to find in many "limit to death" techno records these days,.. no need to jump on a bandwagon but it can bring new inspiration to people for working on their music, no matter what style it is. yeah, inspirations from outside of techno will push techno forward, tho....

I dunno, it`s alive and well, just got mixed in with other stuff.

Theres a good dollop of funky energy stuff in the PA`s I`ve been playing as Dirty Bass for the last few months in da clubs

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