i bet you are :lol: :mashed:
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i bet you are :lol: :mashed:
oh wait a minute...
charles siegling ( Technasia ) must be the most underrated DJ ever.
i totally forgot to mention that dude.
He's always juggling with his records...so cool. Hahaha.
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good call mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Zektor
Yeah Siegling for sure..
I also love Preach's technical abilities.
And Sims goes without saying..
Surprised nobody has mentioned Deetron, Christian Smith and Claude Young yet? All three have more tricks than a magician's convention in Blackpool!
Claude young for sure, not seen deetron for years & years. Last time i heard CS at homelands i think it was he wasnt doing any tricks? maybe a off day. :lol:
richie hawtin is great.
bad boy bill also.
I'd say Dave Clark was one of the best, but I dont hear too much turntablim or anything recently.
Marco G is an awesome dj. The whole genre of ghetto tech is full of awesome djs too. Like DJ Godfather.
yeah deetron is amazing. still pretty shit compared to all these hip hop dj's though. put dave clarke in a dmc comp and he would get laughed at so hard.
yea, but the kind of dmc djs are totally different to "techno" djs, aren´t they? i think it is hard to judge both in one and the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
what about DJ MURPHY from Brasil?
I mean they call him the brazilian Jeff Mills.
yeah i know what you mean. its just when people go on about how technically brilliant ben sims is it makes me laugh. theres not that many techno dj's that are that good.
not slagging it..i hate hip hop and love techno...its just an observation.
best dj ever IMO is hawtin. infact he's in a league of his own in every aspect.
murphy kicks ass, got some crazy mixes from him... :clap:
i totally agree. hawtin is UNIQUE. and Ben is outstanding and just great.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
he plays techno in a hip-hop way. just awesome. i wish all the hip-hop djs
would play techno. cause i don´t like hip-hop also at all. i mean for a party.
I think BadBoy Bill is nearly similar to Ben Sims, just an other style.
Africa Islam have also great skills. Always very spectacular but i hate
this crap he is playing even more than the worst hip-hop.
In fact you can say all the techno djs with hip-hop roots play very well
cause of the way they play techno. It´s different! And that´s exactly what
is needed to flash the people (in all styles of music)
totally agree. pretty sure deetron grew up on hip hop too and clarke?????Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyxray
Sorry, I kinda took the wrong meaning from what you said originally. You were talking about Bones as a DJ, wheras I was just talking about Bones in general :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Becka
I hear what you're saying, I could easily see Bones tomorrow and not enjoy his set at all, although he is someone I'd like to check one way or the other..
i think that's right on the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
comparing electronic DJs to hiphop DJs in terms of skill is the stupidest thing I ever heard of.
yep. it's just not what it's about. but i think that was oldbugger's point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Zahn
My point was that's its incredibly stupid because the two are like night and day. It's like comparing a saxophone to an electric guitar, they both make noises in very different ways.
have to disagree..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Zahn
who said you cannot flip techno and juggle etc and get very technical..
just techno djs are lazy.
if you gave someone like dj craze a bass tone locked groove and a locked groove record i bet hed come up with some very good "technical" stuff.
[sarky]sorry.. ignore my stupid and ignorant comment :doh:[/sarky[
bottom line is, tricks in techno need to come second to the musicality of the set. besides, dmc competitions are all about a crowd just watching the dj. techno at its core, whatever else we ascribe to it, is about making people dance and keeping them dancing.
totally agree mate. i cant see any difference at all. buty i'm ovbiusly stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by gumpy green
I have no problem with mixing the elements together. Hell, my own DJ sets are very heavily hip-hop influenced with tricks, and more. All I am saying is why try and compare two completely different styles and claim one is better than the other?
Just because some of the DMC guys can scratch like a mother ****er doesn't make them a proper DJ in a club setting. Just because Sims and Clarkey are fairly decent at cutting records up doesn't mean they'd work the DMC guys. I just fail to see how one genre of DJs would be better skilled than the other. It's all subject to opinion.
I'll agree that that most techno guys wouldn't stand a chance in DMC competitions but it doesn't mean I don't support them for attempting to blur the lines between turntablism and beatmatching.
Quite frankly, I agree that most techno DJs are lazy or not much for show, but in a sense I am kind of glad. I've seen a number of DJs, both house and techno who constantly scratch over their whole entire set. Not only is the scratching half-assed, but it gets ****ing annoying, especially when people are there to dance moreso than being wowed (which is the point of a DMC comp).
i'm not trying to say one is better than the other. the point really i was trying to make i suppose is its just laughable when people get so excited about sims doing a few cuts or clarke scratchin a bit. its not that technical really is it? (not that i can do it :oops: :doh: ) but do you get my point?
i'd love to hear what some hip hop dj's could do with techno loops.
agree ther too....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Zahn
.thats usually the problem with techno djs cutting etc,,ther usually shite at it and over do it...
what we need is some folks briging this gap between turntablism and techno.......im on my way doing this but nowhere near the level i want...
Sometimes their tricks are pretty cookier cutter, sometimes I'm completely blown away.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
it's also about restraint. a good techno dj in command of tricks knows not to overdo it. an annoying dj, IMO, just scratches and juggles constantly...
Im not sure that someone said someting about him but for me is:
Jeff Amadeus :love:
Hes fuc**** good es. on 3 decks :twisted:
My favs:
Christian Varela, for his awesome variety of tricks and constant skill on performing them.
Jeff Mills, for the soul that he transmits in his sets, constantly changing tracks, always bringing up the right track after a transition
Richie Hawtin, brilliant EQ, very smoothly arranged effects, ver solid and constant sets
Dave Clarke, for his absolutely crazy ability on performing fast and complex tricks and cuts taht he masters in a crazy way
Also love to hear Ben Sims, DJ Murphy (very good scratching abilities), Patrick Skoog and Adam Beyer (very solid mixing) and others that i can't recall now
DJ KentaroQuote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
Kentaro takes the piss :love:
yah i tried that the other day...the guitar just wouldn't hold still so i had to use a piano insteadQuote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Zahn
saxophones still annoy me though :crackup:
a dj who can mix and play the drums at the sametime would get my vote
theres a group of french turntablists that only juggle techno, think theres about 5 of em, they make complete techno tracks from juggling, its awesome
Chris Liberator - there....there's the proper answer.
hur hur hur!!! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by audioinjection
jiberish...Quote:
Originally Posted by jibberish
:clap: :clap: :clap: short and sweat smooth as houses cool as the cockiest aly cat in your town. :rambo:Quote:
Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk
by the way ive to many djs to mention here but 1 on here who stands out a mile for shere talent is DJ OGI from croatia this boy can mix god damm genius. best original talent ive seen in years he reminds me of early umek. ;)
wot a jock wot a producer for the future now theres a good candidate. :cool:
umek is pretty technical...jermoe is wikid...even eddy halliwell is wikid....but technical ability must go hand in hand with keeping the crowd stomping and i think Dave the Drummer is the man for that!
seconded!!Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcollective
some mind bogglin choices going on here...think some folks need
to get out more and listen to more peeps rather than the rut they seem
to b stuck in...
:eh:Quote:
Originally Posted by FuK-NuT
mm... Maybe we're just getting side tracked and going for the music we like rather then the "technical skills" side of things...Quote:
Originally Posted by FuK-NuT
bit of a vaste subject though: what is technically good to me (not being a DJ) is probably shite for you lot... And lots of really good guys can have bad sets etc... saw the Surgeon only once and thought he was crap (just a laptop, nothing happening, no chopping no cutting...). Does that make him crap? Nope. But am not gonna rush to see another of his sets..
so I'd say (keeping in mind the technical side of things)
Laurent Garnier
Dave Clark
Ben Sims
Jerome
anyone seen christian varela :shock: hes another dude 3 deck wizzard.dave clarke also to me is mechanic god dam daddy if you ask me but i no many will disgree , also carl cox jesus how many quality guys out there , and fuk nut you nutter wots this stuck in rut do you think we all just got into techno or somthing and havent a clue on who is who and who can do wot hahahahahahahahahah :lol:
my choice of ogi was simply a more up to date choice somone who deffo floats my boat and someone i see as 1 of the most gifted techno talents ive seen in years even tho he aint known like some of the big guns we mention here he sure is an absolute full package of a most technical and giffted dj. ;) same feelings towards jeff amadeus wot a talent enough said. there are far many gifted genuine geeza`s out there to pick one its simply inpossible :eh:
charles seigling from technasia
if you haven't already , check him out
dj cash money for the hip hoppers
you have to be kidding.....Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer