I knew his name wasn't wagner,I was playing good cop bad cop.
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I knew his name wasn't wagner,I was playing good cop bad cop.
busted!
can't believe he's tried selling records on SJ when you guys still haven't recieved anything!! what a complete c{}nt!!
who said theres no money in acid techno :D
busted. hope this gets resolved for all
can't believe he posted it on squatjuice
dudes.. give the guy a break.
who knows whats happened. if the records dont turn up soon then fair enough but shit happens us all and sometimes things take a backseat to other stuff.
im not saying he's inocent but attacking him like this is a little childish for those not involved.
having said that i hope he's not skanked anyone.
bit of a pisstake tho init
to be honest i dont really know the ins and outs so im not going to condemn the guy. spoken to andy a few times b4 and he seems a straight up kinda guy.. like i said, life sometimes gets in the way of things..
but the records DO NEED TO BE SENT TO THEIR OWNERS.. no question..
at the end of the day we're not all perfect and im sure we've all ****ed up at some stage... the thing is to make right that **** up.
Naah rhythmtech,this has been going on for over 2 months. With Wagner saying that he's posted them. Now he was saying that he'll go to the post office in the morning.
It's about as blatent a blag as you're ever going to see.
I'm more than happy to be proved wrong. But the time to ask politley has long gone.
ill admit it sounds fishy but chinese whispers can get out of hand.. he just needs to explain what happened without skirting artound the facts
when he does that,I'm sure we'll all lay off.
But he just keeps on with the spin.He hasn't given 1 single straight answer on this thread as to what's going on. We've got to club together here and help out the people that have not had their tunes,or,for that matter,a half decent explanation WHY they have not got their tunes. Not "give 'im one last chance" there've been plenty. Sorry to sound harsh,and I know it's not my cash that's gone walkies. I just hate skanks.
believe me im not condoning whats going on.. i'd just hate to think that theres something more important in his life thats causing him to forget and then we're piling on more pressure..
im just the optimist :)
are you really?
wanna buy some records? :;
That's why I stopped the Paypal claim. He's been on here and several people have said that they have dealt with him for one thing or another in the past and he has been totally alright. If it carries on and I get nothing, I get to call him a cunt, if it works out then that's fine.
Well the squatjuice post may be a wind up, but the discogs feedback link that was posted says quite a lot.....
http://www.discogs.com/sell/buyer_feedback/wagnerman
Very poor show......
Attention those who have given this man money. Please get his contact details by the 10th. Thank you :)
Hi all concerned.....
ALL records have now been sent, iv posted them all apart from 1 yesterday. i made a serious **** up, and hell dont i know it!! It was me being lame and because i didnt say anyhting in the first place about iv bought it all on myself. i deserve all i get thats for sure. I dio have reasons for why i didnt post them, but there not really valid now, and theres no point explaining at this point. all them records will arrive with there rightfull owners by wednesday at least - aprrt from the ones going overseas i assume.
As iv said in this forum, i will at some poiint, when i have more funds, refund everyone fully. thats the right thing to do and i know it is.
i will happily give you my address and telephone number if you need them, though i hope it doesnt come to that at all.
I know that no-one now trusts what i say now, and i wouldnt either, who would?! but what im typing here is the gods honest truth, iv got the recipts, buit i cant scan them in cos i have no scanner, and the only camera i have isn't digital, so thats no use.
i swear to god almighty i never posted that up on that squat juice forum, i have a few ideas of who it can be - probs the same plokker leaving me missed calls and answer phone messages on a witheld number.
i cant even remember joining in all honesty.
As said erlier - theres not much more i can say apart from all this. and untill the records arrive the thread is going to continue and continue untill god knows what. i aint gonna ask you to lock it, as people are entitled to there own opinions, but please can i ask you to consider what iv told you in this message?
Andy
(thats my real name - christian wagner - long story, and its not that intresting anyway)
No, its not actully, its true heh.. theres a lot of christmas do's around now.
i had chicked wings, then steak, which was to well done for me, followed by apple pie which i coudnt finish cos i was full, then i had a few beers and went home.
i will seriously give you my works number so you can call and ask them! you can asit on here sayin stull like tyhat so you muct be able to make a quick call to a shop!!
well i've got my works xmas do tonight
My works Christmas do is on a Wednesday. I'm not looking forward to coming into work on Thursday.
all i can do is wait and hope as i have been doing already. this is probably the last time your going to tell us you posted the records lets just hope they turn up this time.
Far be it from me to get involved, but it seems these lads are not only owed their records and a full refund, but also an explanation as to why it took over 2 months to get records from one part of the UK to the other. This is almost as low as stealing someone's records.
exactly
i know if i had had my money taken, been repeatedly lied too, made a fool out of and then not really been given a reason as to why a) my records were not sent b) why i was repeatedly lied too, i'd be paying mr wagner a visit indeed, with a few choice friends in the car
afterwards, THEN i'd ring the police on him :)
Can i just say again, that there all sent now, if i can scra,ble out my old fone with the camera on it, il attempt to take some pics of the recipts
I have something at the Post Office to pick up tomorrow so assuming it's this.
are they recorded delivery then?? i havent got anything yet.
you could say it.... but i'd be very surprised if anyone actually believed you son, considering you've said that EXACT thing numerous times when people know full well that you havent
the proof is in the pudding, once everyone has their records then fair enough. I'd still be demanding all my money back aswell for the pisstake though if it were me
and i'd probably still ring the police
or beat you up
or both :)
Yes son, so we shall see in a few days (or a week or so with the ones being sent overseas) if they get there or not.
Everyone has been informed to my knowledge now, about the situation.
Dont know wether to take the above quote as a jest or not, but if you READ my reply properly, you would see that i said at some point il see about refunds
Beat me up? well iv offerd you all my address, so il let you know what time im in, yeah?
hahahaha
that's probably the best reply you've given in this whole thread, which is sad in a way
i'd say you come to me but to be honest, you'd probably say you've left yours, 2 months later...... "Yeah im just coming off the motorway now"
your a legend
nuff 'spect
Thank **** for that. My ordeal is now over.
I picked up my tunes from the post office this morning (I had been called for yesterday but I wasn't in so had to pick em up before work today). All are there, all in mint condition. Sent Special Delivery. So errr..... thanks? I wouldn't say I would give you many stars on the ebay, speed of delivery bit, but they are as advertised so you would get the full stars on the other bits.
Don't worry about a refund, I have what I want now.
One down...
Xmas already??Santa Wagner´s comin´to town..
Geez.. have to admit all hope had left me....
Shall wait anxiously for that postman once again.
Just to add... (I'm not reading 8 pages worth though).
Those people who have filed Paypal claims against er, me? Then filing disputes won't do any good, as the account's not even Andy Brown/Christian Wagner's, it's mine. I have emailed everyone though to try and explain the situation. Not that it'll do much good, I'm sure.
"Under the terms of our User Agreement we have attempted to deduct the
amount of the transaction from your PayPal Account but found your account
held insufficient funds. As a result access to your PayPal account may be
limited until this amount has been recovered."
Cheers very much Andy/Wagner... Due to your slack arsed ness, I have had Paypal attempt to take about £150 from me!!! Luckily I didn't have any money in my account or I'd have been royally screwed. Instead, my Paypal is ****ed, and I have "limited access"... which is a ****ing pain in the arse, as I use it most days for varioius transactions.
I really didn't need all this at the present moment to be quite honest. As I've already said, this is the last time I'll ever let anyone "borrow" my Paypal account!!
Andy bud, you owe me loads of whiskeys for this. ;)
i still think the cunt should be banned. i ve been banned on five previous occasion for far far less. @ the mods your bunch a cunts and i really mean that