You're kidding right??Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttman
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You're kidding right??Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttman
Olav Basoski been doing that for years. To the point Beltram took a Basoski loop and looped it even more taking out 8 measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Oldham
Very true, Sam, we are all entitled to our opinions. I'm just against wholesale bashing of anything and anyone. And where did the SLS comparison come from? I've heard some cheesy/bull**** tracks in my day, but the Beltram stuff's not among them, in my humble opinion. When I had Sims and Ho here in Chicago, they both had the Player 12" and banged the floor with it. These are 2 of the hottest DJs in the world. I guess they don't know music either, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
When I was in Mexico and Puerto Rico recently, I had people coming up to ask what it was (Player). People don't stop and ask what sh** tracks are.
The yellow one on STX drives women insane. House/disco textures, techno aggression. When I played Vision here in Chi, you have to cross over a bit to the mainstream club crowd. All his new stuff straddles that line. That dark, dirty, evil warehouse sh** is over unless you're in Germany, or unless you like playing to sweaty muscle queens with their shirts off or moody trainspotters (also male) w/ their arms folded (I don't). You have to play to a wider audience these days. I go by experience, not message board opinions. You of course (and I stress this again) are entitled to your own. ;)
The Sls comparison came from when you rocked his track out in Pennsauken Nj and had all of us going ape shit. To me that has way more integrity than the stx material, and I'm not trying to play my mans out either. I understand your point about rockin a crowd no doubt. but I think Joey can put more into a track rather than using a disco loop that has been used by house producers already. To me it's almost like when puffy uses a track from the 80's that already has a sample from a hot ass 70's soul hit. He could have done a bit more research into disco and taken a perhaps hotter loop that wasnt already used on olav basoski's samplitude. I totally understand your comparisons to Pr and all, I'm boriqua dog. So I feel you on the shakin ass bit. But I'm just saying in the realm of b-boy, I think he can rock harder or better man. Without using something that's been rocked.
If we`re gonna talk crowd pleasing here. then lets just break out the britney spears and aguilera records. Cos they get more people moving than techno any day.
But they are commercial.
And not saying or pushing anything forward, as techno is supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
knowhatimsayin!
I can see what you are saying but take Green Velvet for example - simple stuff, lots of old samples - works like a dream and while you may say it doesn't take much, you could also say well "you didn't". If it works it works and 99.9% of the crowd probably don't give a crap and never will - it's a party not a trainspotters line up of who's too cool for school.Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Sometimes I just dig to cheek of it all...take it easy...
Martin
Green Velvet's been sampling disco to make techno since.... well he was one of the first actually, so there's redeeming value. Even the Cajual days he was on some next shit.
There you go, it's purely subjective. Velvet wasn't the first to sample disco, check your history, someone also said that Mills and Cox where pioneers on 3 decks, also very wrong...
Who were the first to use 3 decks then? Mills and Cox were certainly 2 of the first - I also remember some bloke called GE Real who used to use 4 back in about 1992. I'd like to hear a definitive answer if you know of someone else though.
actually some hip hop performers uses multiple decks way back in the 80s ... of course it didnt have to do with layering/beatmacthing all these records at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreadnought
so, actually, i thnik its pretty hard to say "whos the first" .. its like asking "whats the first techno track" ??? as people dont even agree on what is techno, i just think we wont find a unique reply to this type of question.
Many have claimed it but the front runner has to be Nicky Siano...
I meant actually using 3 decks to play 3 'tunes' I guess. Siano I thought just used sound FX and stuff like that. Things changed a great deal between what he was doing and what Carl Cox was doing at the start of the Nineties. I know there have been plenty of people who had the capabilities, I'm sure Larry Levan would have had 3 decks at least in that monster 75ft box that he had, but none of them were actually 'renowned' for using 3 decks, more their style of mixing or the sort of records they used to play back then. I reckon Tioneb is right - some of the hip hop innovators in the eighties were probably on it then.
He did use 3 decks...I give up...
I said they were the first people in techno to bring it full circle if that's what you are referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dust
Forgot to mention the quality label Adrenogroov - consistent releases and a very musical direction... Lovin' it, a shame we don't get any of their releases down herre... And all the Net stores are "out of stock"... :roll:
A few other labels I forgot to mention : Kurbel (some gr8 stuff on there, like Richard Bartz's Acid Scout project and some of Savas Pascalidis' stronger material), Goodlife (good releases, a few hiccups but also many classics) and Dancefloor killers ( just for the Tonio/Carretta killer "My telephone is dead )... :twisted:
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Originally Posted by Martin Dust
Stop trying to argue with me and let's get back on topic. Labels.Quote:
Green Velvet's been sampling disco to make techno since.... well he was one of the first actually, so there's redeeming value. Even the Cajual days he was on some next shit.
Disko B, Blueprint, Surface, Plus 8, Arc(ane), Light and Dark, M Plant, Eevo Lute Muzique, Counterbalance, Torema, Mego lots of others too.
Peter Benisch did a lovely one on this before.Quote:
Originally Posted by ncw
???? But you are wrong fella - no need to argue at all [/fact mode off]Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Adrenogroov has its 3 next release pressing as white labels last week a feter some months of silence. If salvatore gets his hand out of his ass i might meet him on saturday so i can give u more info. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by scienceofuse
have just spotted this thread and can't be arsed to go through 9 pages of posts so dont know where this thread is heading but my answer to the original subject is :
I can't single out one label , but over the years , at different times, certain labels have got me excited for different reasons.
in the mid 90's I loved Re-Load , lots of great records in various styles from lots of different producers
Probably the most consistant label though for me has been UR. Not every release has been great by any means but through many years the quality has remained high imo.
I am now somewhat removed from the scene so am not in a position to name any labels of the last few years that have rocked it for me. But I have enjoyed Planet Rhythm, Template, Submissions, Punish, and many others
Just my opinion :neutral:
You don't know who or who isn't on this forum, lot of the "kids" on this forum, run labels, are producers, and dj's, with more noteriety than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Oldham
i love adrenagrovvvvvve! reeal quality... i get sent most if their stuff for review (lucky me hehehe) and love most of them.... absolutely brilliant
Hey Sam, you just can't let this go, can you. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Just doing my job Moderating, Making sure people respect each other. [/b]
Don't think Alan has shown anyone any dis-respect myself Sam. If anything I'd say you've been a little rude to him.
I don't see how I have been rude to him. I respect his time in the game.
Track Machine was one of my all time favs. I would love for Alan to share his thoughts here, I would just rely on him to be understanding to someone not agreeing with him as well, regardless of experience.
nah sam's just doing his job in my eyes. that's why we're all here - to share the knowledge no matter who we are ;)
ok cum on, let's get back on topic before britney joins the board.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
my fav label at the mo is probably 4x4,
overall fav is downwards, so many killers
but it depends on how i feel, what i'm playing blah blah...
Drumcode,CLR,Zennit,Knee deep,Northwest dynamics,Bound,Tresor,Compound,Planet rythm,Blackout audio,Stigmata,korb,Construct rythm,Punish,Submission,Counter balence,SHIT man theres no way i could ever pick a fave :doh:
Let's give it a shot.
Underground Resistance
Axis
Synewave NewYork
Downwards
Bleuprint
Surface
Kanzlerambt
Uturn
Tresor
Underground Liberation :cool:
Pro-jex
Ground
Potential
Peacefrog
Planet Rhythm
Drumcode
Asymetric
Pure Plastic
Missile
Form
4 x 4
Black Nation
Bush
RedSeal
etc. etc.
Thanks, PM me... :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by tioneb
D1's Rob Rowland is meant to have one dropping soon with a Diego remix, perhaps this is amongst the 3 new releases?Quote:
Originally Posted by tioneb
downwards & pure plastic