the most unusual poster maybe.. what i meant i thought i was ironic that
came from your mouth....Quote:
Anyone can play tough on a message board.
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the most unusual poster maybe.. what i meant i thought i was ironic that
came from your mouth....Quote:
Anyone can play tough on a message board.
Hehe yes, I am not so tough in real life as on this board. I am quite sure that goes for everyone on here (ok, maybe not Gunjack).Quote:
Originally Posted by BritishMurderBoy
agreed, some people are just throwing out music for the $. And it would take them too long to be original about it.
It was directed at any and all "artists" who, in the course of this saga, have accused another "artist" of plagiarising their work, when in fact it would seem to have become apparent that the truth is that they are all equally unoriginal. I'm not aware that you are involved in that in any way other than by association with certain members of one "side", and that you are representing your friend's interests. I don't know who DJ Amok is or what he has said, and in fact exactly who is who has evaded me.Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
I'd really like some clarification on this now. I was just thinking about this while waiting for my prawn and salad baguette...at first I just thought it was real sad that people were getting worked up over their generic loop tracks. Now it's looking like some sort of campaign has been run against one group of people via various forums and probably other means...by another group who have just been revealed as total hypocrites as they were using the same lame methods to make the music they were claiming to have had STOLEN from them. That makes me pretty f.ucking angry if it's true.
Is that actually what has happened, or am I misreading the situation? I just want that clarified in case I start railing off about things I've not understood. It seems so ludicrous I can hardly believe it could be true.
that's how i've read it as....and a good read it was too!Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
glad y'all lovely techno peeps r sorted (kinda...)
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Originally Posted by Buttman
c'mon, i am a pussycat! :D
Of course it is what has happand, why do you think so much of the music sounds the same on the labels, it was sure to come out at some stage. How many of the same artist are using the same studios? How many have a template techno loop they use, and just do small changes it to them...
Can you feel it?
your gonna feel it in a minute smartass.... ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by serox
this is what i was confused about mate and i think the sad thing is that it is true...Quote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
however as for the discussion between deaf/greg i believe there is something behind this conversation that is not made entirely clear on this topic..
no wonder ur bluddy angry mate, were they all out of cheese :DQuote:
Originally Posted by death on a stick
deafmosaic...you seem closest to the issues without actually being involved...is my appraisal accurate in your opinion? Did it really happen as it appears to myself and others?
[quote="deafmosaic"]i must ask again, as a PERSONAL FAVOR to gunjack, that you call off the actions you have set into motion. I WILL ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE HE REALIZES THE SEVERITY of these sorts of actions.... if you insist on further retaliation, this could get very dirty and the situation may require an outside element to "clean" it.
like i told u. i can´t call them off,because they are out by mail already. but i told the advocate to stop any further persecution of this case. this is the only thing i could do besides trusting your words. so after that, everything is fine and i have never again a problem with him nor do i anything to constrain him on his career.
[quote="deafmosaic"]also i have a quick question: your bio states that you came up first in the game through early releases on "Generator records", but Alan Oldham (T-1000 of Generator records) is a friend of mine and says he has never heard of you.... could there have been another Generator records around that time?
there was a label "generator records" in germany, near mainz. i don´t know this guy, too.
ok greg. i understand. may i have a copy of the piece that went out? i will need it for damage control. private message will be fine of course
DJ Amok will not bother you folks again as i have made it my business to straighten this out with him. cheers and good luck with future, original projects.
death on a stick (love the screen name btw): it would appear the culprit in this case is relentless sample(train)spotters, ready made loop producers, over zealous protesters of "theft" and a heavy dose of circumstance.
i am glad that this wasnt as ugly as it could have been.
hhmmm..well, it seems to me the whole thing could have been avoided in a couple of ways. Aside from the obvious (i.e. making decent music with a bit of effort) it seems reasonable that the accusers in this case could have considered that the people they were accusing used the same source material for their music before embarking on a campaign against them. Is there so little thought put into this music that someone doesn't remember where they lifted an untreated loop from?Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
I think some people have some serious back tracking and public apologies to be getting started with. I think it's f.ucking disgraceful. No matter how seriously one takes one's efforts (if there are any) at producing original music, there is NO EXCUSE for doing what has been done here given the eventual truth we have seen revealed. These accusers should be ashamed of themselves!! I'd also recommend selling all their studio equipment and going to work in a factory. Obviously the repetitive production-line formula appeals to them, and bar any industrial accidents it would seem to be less of a minefield. Very sad. I'd like to see those who have posted their accusations here come back with an explanation that refutes what appears to have happened as I'm still unconvinced that anyone could be so carelessly stupid. If they don't, I feel it's safe to assume they have realised their errors and are unable to back up their actions.
indeed.
stop please accusing anybody. let us do music mates!
sven wittekind is building his loops by himself, i know that. but unfortunately you also get his loops like tons from others all over the web. and this must be a loop we have taken unconsciously. for us it´s over, i never take a loop from the web again, because i never can know who made this thing as original.
for better understanding: visit www.flashkit.com and take a look at the loops
Greg could you post the direct link, from where you downloaded the Psycho shock loop?
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Originally Posted by Greg Silver
wait a second. i thought you gys said sven was using the same samples from a sample cd and that is how this got started.... you had better explain from the beginning. and quickly. i am beiginning to lose my patience.
i don´t know where it was from. we have a directory "loops" on our harddisk and there we put every loop in. sorry, but i don´t really know. but with hundreds of loops this is impossible.
"we got a live one"
now its getting boring to tell everybody the whole story again. deaf i pm´ed u.