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Originally Posted by fils_here
im totally agree with these above comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSP
You`re a buldier your history, like everybody.
if you feel thats a right moment for change - go and do it!
a lot acid/techno freaks respect you for a music and tracks with one you allready done but im absolutely sure nobody will tell you bad words becauce you try doing what you want doing at this moment.
Music is a mirror our minds & feelings and hope wll be forever.
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Originally Posted by Athar
Well, I just wanted to join the discussion on the whole harder techno to minimal transition. Form a listener/fan point of view, I think the shit that is currently being produced and played worldwide is total crap not worth my time. I was thinking about the reason for the "slow down" in techno and came to the conclusion that a lot of artists/pioneers are getting older and their musical tastes change with their age. I even caught myself recently listening to some downtempo stuff and diggin' it like hell, being a hardcore hard techno fan since 1995.
I've heard a lot of opinions that the softer side of techno will help bring a bigger following to the scene, especially the younger generation. I say, that's bullshit. I happen to have a 16 year old brother that just recently started getting interested in EDM. He asked for some techno sets so I gave him two Beyer's sets, one from 2003 and the other one just from this year, him and his friends listened to it and told me that the new stuff is awful.
I guess the whole world just got hooked on this glitchy, minimal sound. I recently went to see Christian Smith in Chicago and I got annoyed as hell with his set. How can you play some 128bpm minimal crap to the club full of people at 2am? Where is the energy? The place should be shaking so hard at that time of the night, that the people on the other side of the town should be feeling it. Too bad I didn't bring the pillow and a blanket that night because instead I had to go home, I was so bored.
I own nearly every single track that was out by Henry and I feel I should speak my mind. So Henry, I'm sorry to say this but if I hear you play minimal at any event I'll be at, I'm leaving with that bottle of Zubrowka we never finished.
this track you put up is seriously good. one of the best tracks i have heard for ages mate it really is. if you've got stuff like this up your sleve then please don't be bothered about narrow minded people and get it out there. seems like your dying to express yourself in other ways. i know it must be hard for fear of not being booked but the cream always rises to the top and if your playing quality tunes like that you will be booked to play cos that tune is shit hot!
its a bandwagon, people are jumping on like no tomorrow, and it'll probably stay this way for a while......like most trends they come and go, but i wonder what will be next, the hard stuff coming back? who knows
if henry wants to jump on the minimal wagon, so be it......but what i want to know is, are you jumping on to stay for good? or are you just doing this while minimal is popular?
:roll: There are narrow minded people out there I agree, but that doesn't mean that the stuff that is currently produced is top notch quality music. I personally don't like it and can't stand it, that doesn't mean that I'm narrow minded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiptoe
Just to add my tuppence worth
Ive been away from techno for the last year...and from buying records for nearly two
I wouldnt know a 'minimal' techno record if it jumped up and smacked me in the jaw. I thought the track you posted up was good techno...great production, interesting sounds, good energy to it and even if the pace has dropped slightly from the records of yours i'm more familiar with, you'd still be able to mix it up and rock a dancefloor with it at any tme of the evening, if the dj knows what he is doing
At the end of the day there's nothing more transparent than an artist banging out choons just cos he knows he's got a market for them, and can sell them. What end result will be devoid of soul and passion - and can only have a limited shelf life.
I think if you make music then you realy have to express yourself in the way you feel no matter who you are.
If its about the music for you then the worst possible situation you can find yourself in is that your not creating and sharing the music you wish too, so you have to go for it and hopfully people will feel what you are doing.
If like Henry you allready have a following then of course most of these people will not like any other sound that varies from what you are known for but new people who dont like your sound now will feel any new direction.
To put things simple.... some people like your music now and some dont, you change and some people will like your music and some wont so the important thing is that YOU like it.
This is the point of veiw coming from a guy whos money does not come from music so of course its going to be different from a guy whos music is his job (must be nice) : )
You only get the bset out of yourself when your doing what you want to.
I'd also keep a few other irons in the fire though. :cheese:
Let it flow H...
Some people will say "Look, Dave the drummer is moving forward with his sound", others (incl. me) would be dissapointed when they go to see you playing and get to hear a Minimal/Electro-set.
To be honest, I don`t go to see Adam Beyer or Hawtin etc. anymore when they are in Austria, totally boring, sorry.
But when this is what you really want to do and produce, now is the right time for that kind of sound I guess.
I was having a conversation with a friend last night, when the topic turned to the "M" word again.
My buddy said he makes music that for him represents where techno should go, and the stuff he is producing now is in a grey area where it might be called minimal, but really isn't.
I think we've over-used the minimal label to the point that, like theledge said, what used to just be called techno is now sometimes getting called minimal in the shops because it isn't grinding hard techno.
When a hard/acid techno producer makes tracks with a lighter sound we too easily call it minimal. But the hard thing has been done and done well for a long time and the evolution of the music has to go somewhere else, right?
Just call it techno and forget about the prefix sublabel and then we can put the minimal issue to bed!
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Originally Posted by samba
This tune hasnt left my box for 3 years!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wenna
The flips the shit too.
Take great enjoyment in telling my more purist mates whos behind it.
More please captain... :cheese:
bandwagon bandshmagon
make it, stick it out, have a wank, everyones happy :)
go for it
Bang on way to put it Scott
do what makes you happy
never give up on what your passionate about
**** what people think
theyl either love it or they wont
no point worrying over it
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thats going a bit far mate, you sick puppy :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface
marry me :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by roxy
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Originally Posted by MARK EG
me too :lol: