Schranz Is Not Hard Techno

haha no patronising at all mate, to the average brainless german the likes of Kay D will be lumped in the schranz bracket

and 6/7 years ago i think its more than fair to say those labels were genuinely regarded as just proper hard techno label, certainly in general its only on forums like this were proper "discussion" of genres and sub-genres get's all twisted and personal really

your right though, this is a stupid thread, pointless and born out of something that isnt there, who gives a freaking toss if schranz producers are calling what they do hard techno and calling hard techno hard groove. It doesnt mean shit, people freaking out over nothing

Kay D Motherf*cking Smith
Now that is Hard Motherf*cking Techno
By All Means.

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Originally Posted by audioinjection

i dont think kay d. smith was schranz though, more on the hard techno side

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:lol: thankyou adio injection exactly but listen ok there is sum good stuff out there but however these bloody skinny bootlegs and hammering of pure nonsense has given the well produced shranz a bad name like ive said b4 early ;)

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Kay D Motherf*cking Smith
Now that is Hard Motherf*cking Techno
By All Means.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

your right though, this is a stupid thread, pointless and born out of something that isnt there, who gives a freaking toss if schranz producers are calling what they do hard techno and calling hard techno hard groove. It doesnt mean shit

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Then how about you don't worry about it and keep your negative opinion out of the "stupid" thread.
if it's so stupid ignore it.

there are much more negative comments in this thread along the same lines, i dont see u singling them out

grow up Tony man we had our beef in private, if you want to carry it on do it in private not on here, your a mod for gods sake, you should be setting an example

both partial to a bit of beef arent you.

we are the mods
we are the mods
we are the
we are the
we are the mods !

haha definately Frank my old son

you going the Jam old squire?

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Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

there are much more negative comments in this thread along the same lines, i dont see u singling them out

grow up Tony man we had our beef in private, if you want to carry it on do it in private not on here, your a mod for gods sake, you should be setting an example

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I don't see how calling a thread stupid is adding to the discussion.
That is what I am saying.
As far as personal business I have none with you.
Your issues are not relevant to me or this thread.

if they are not relevant then why tell me to not post in this thread? make your mind up son!

I'm not feeding into your childishness
Do as you will.
You're only playing yourself.
By the way, your shoes are no where near my mothers bedpost.
Don't call me son.

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

we are the mods
we are the mods
we are the
we are the
we are the mods !

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haha quality quality film

;)

haha

i love you Tony, really i do

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Originally Posted by conflict

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

we are the mods
we are the mods
we are the
we are the
we are the mods !

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haha quality quality film

;)

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glad someone got it
jesus it's hard to tell jokes in this place.
if this forum were a stage and i was a stand up comedian
you guys would be the audience from hell

hecklers

know it alls

stoney faces all round jeessuusss !!!





"yes yes yes" they all say in unison

"but what if jeff mills said that ? would it be funnier ?"

so.....
how many jeff mills does it take to change a lighbulb?
well he'll have to learn to mix first .........

:dance: :clown: :dance:

i still don't get it :scratch:

:roll:

oh for gods sake

sorry :oops: :lol: i don't think i've seen the film :doh:

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Originally Posted by dan the acid man

sorry :oops: :lol: i don't think i've seen the film :doh:

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quadrophenia !!!!


really !!!

never???????

oh dear you are missing some claassic stuff
i suggest you get down to you video rental retailers as quickliy as possible , or at least as fast as those short legs will carry you

is that what it's from,
yeah, i've never seen it :oops: it's one of those films i've meant to watch a thousand times, i even borrowed the dvd last year but never got around to watching it :oops:

what you mean? .... i AM the face :)

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Originally Posted by rhythmtech

what you mean? .... i AM the face :)

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14 inch bottoms ..
side vents...

never heard of it

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

never heard of it

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that's cause you're gay tony.

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Originally Posted by DSP

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

never heard of it

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that's cause you're gay tony.

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Dammit Pat you weren't supposed to tell anyone about that romantic night in New Jersey.

Right, it seems I have missed most of the serious discussion, but Ill chuck my two-penneth worth in;

I read this thread about 2 months ago when I decided I was going to make the change from Hardstyle to Techno but it confused me so much and didnt clear anything up.

I have bought some bits of Hard Techno and some bits of Schranz and at first the only way I could tell the difference was by which section of the online record shop I was in..... but now I have listened a little more I can now see there is quite a difference between the two.

I use the way that I structured my Hardstyle sets to aid me; people say that Hardstyle is Hardstyle and there cannot be any progression through a Hardstyle set, but there are tunes that when you listen to them you would not think of using them at the end of your set as they are too floaty/light and the same with some others you wouldnt dream of starting a set with as they are grinding and pounding and need to be played at the end of the set. If I was in the mindset of making up new genres I would have called them "SoftStyle" and "HarderStyle", but that would have been silly!!!

Now take this into the Hard Techno/Schranz debate; The couple of tunes I have have been listened to, mixed and recorded and replayed and the stuff that is IMO Hard Techno is the stuff you are going to play at the start of your set; yes, its still hard and if you follow a Hard Trance DJ its still going to scare a dancefloor for a couple of minutes, but its going to aid the progression of your set through to the "Harder Techno", or as our german friends have decided to call it, "Schranz"!!!

As for the cheesy element of Schranz, there are cheesy elements in EVERY genre of music, Techno, Hardstyle, Hard House etc etc you will always get a producer of any style that will have a cheeky idea and will have the equipment and the need to release that cheeky idea onto vinyl. I have had ideas to encompass an S Club 7 record into a Hard Techno remix, yes it would be the cheesiest thing you had ever heard but the derisory comments it would attract would bounce off me because it was only a bit of fun. I am pretty sure that producers of any sound that do cheesy stuff know thats what they are doing, and dont really care as long as the money goes in the bank at the end of the month.

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

When Adam Beyer did this
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF15953-01-01-01.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66215-01-02-01.mp3
Which I would consider hard techno.

Do you think that should be associated with
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF219568-01-01-01.mp3
or
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF217302-01-01-01.mp3

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I wouldnt associate the two at all,personally i dont get a kick out of the distorted sound of schranz i like sharp snappy synths as well as the drums,i think if you like hardcore you'd find it easier to enjoy. :techno:

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Originally Posted by piginabush

...but its going to aid the progression of your set through to the "Harder Techno", or as our german friends have decided to call it, "Schranz"!!!

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Actually i thought this all was about some German producer's calling their Schranz music "Hard Techno", and what everyone else was calling Hard Techno as "Hard Groove". Thus getting rid of the shit Schranz moniker that they started and shifting everyone else over to accommodate them.

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Originally Posted by piginabush

...but its going to aid the progression of your set through to the "Harder Techno", or as our german friends have decided to call it, "Schranz"!!!

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Actually i thought this all was about some German producer's calling their Schranz music "Hard Techno", and what everyone else was calling Hard Techno as "Hard Groove". Thus getting rid of the shit Schranz moniker that they started and shifting everyone else over to accommodate them.

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'schranz' aka 'hard techno' - 'hard techno' aka 'schranz' its just a word dont worry about it. Even call it 'pinguin acid trance' if you like or 'wonky tonky techno'. Its all techno at the end of the day. I have never heard hard techno being named 'hard groove'? Schranz is just a type of hard techno, and just falls into this category , simple as that i reckon