Dave Clarke

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Originally Posted by pedrod

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

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Originally Posted by The Germ

His music has always given me a headache

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yeah and red was shite
n***a please :dontevengothere:

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Nah man .. Red in its day was the **** nuts. (Even listening back to it now - its still does somehting for me)

People are bound to slag him off in here as his sound is now so much more housier (and even playing progressive house)

But ive seen him many times at the Orbit in Leeds over the years and he is a really excellent DJ (even if his attitude of playing to himself and not the crowd does stink a bit)

He was even a good customer at Tune Inn before he started on just CD's.. (this is the way its going unfortunately)

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i think you've missed Tony's sarcasm there really

I was there.
Yes there was something wrong with his set, on his website after I LOVE TECHNO he said he was very pissed off with ILT because they didn't provide a fan for cooling his live pa equipment and that was why his live pa didn't sound top notch. Also I think he complained about the the poor lightshow I thought it was fine.
Dave Clarke has played many a good set in the past but for me he's starting to be boring with his sets and with this bad attitude towards promoters which I don't very much like!!!!Remember Dave with out the very hard working promoters there wouldn't be any events so give them a break.

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Originally Posted by DJAmok

kinda goes with the shit promoters all over the world have told me about this guy. and the stunt he pulled off at ILT last year.


he had everyone removed from the stage who wasn't wearing a dave clarke t-shirt (...) including the other djs. took the monitor speakers away from pet duo while they were playing. didn't let me set up my stuff, and then he even quit 7 minutes early without warning, so I wasn't even near, when suddenly there was no music anymore. until they had everything hooked up, it was another 5 minutes or so without music. in a room with several thousand people. best part however: when he was playing, people actually left the room and demonstratively yawned in front of him.

wonder why promoters are willing to pay so much money for him.

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

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Originally Posted by pedrod

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

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Originally Posted by The Germ

His music has always given me a headache

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yeah and red was shite
n***a please :dontevengothere:

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Nah man .. Red in its day was the **** nuts. (Even listening back to it now - its still does somehting for me)

People are bound to slag him off in here as his sound is now so much more housier (and even playing progressive house)

But ive seen him many times at the Orbit in Leeds over the years and he is a really excellent DJ (even if his attitude of playing to himself and not the crowd does stink a bit)

He was even a good customer at Tune Inn before he started on just CD's.. (this is the way its going unfortunately)

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i think you've missed Tony's sarcasm there really

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:eh: :shock:

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Originally Posted by ray

I was there.
Yes there was something wrong with his set, on his website after I LOVE TECHNO he said he was very pissed off with ILT because they didn't provide a fan for cooling his live pa equipment and that was why his live pa didn't sound top notch. Also I think he complained about the the poor lightshow I thought it was fine.
Dave Clarke has played many a good set in the past but for me he's starting to be boring with his sets and with this bad attitude towards promoters which I don't very much like!!!!Remember Dave with out the very hard working promoters there wouldn't be any events so give them a break.

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Originally Posted by DJAmok

kinda goes with the shit promoters all over the world have told me about this guy. and the stunt he pulled off at ILT last year.


he had everyone removed from the stage who wasn't wearing a dave clarke t-shirt (...) including the other djs. took the monitor speakers away from pet duo while they were playing. didn't let me set up my stuff, and then he even quit 7 minutes early without warning, so I wasn't even near, when suddenly there was no music anymore. until they had everything hooked up, it was another 5 minutes or so without music. in a room with several thousand people. best part however: when he was playing, people actually left the room and demonstratively yawned in front of him.

wonder why promoters are willing to pay so much money for him.

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A bad engineer blames his tools eh :lol:

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wonder why promoters are willing to pay so much money for him.

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because he packs 'em in and as a promotor that's what you need otherwise you're an ex-promotor :roll:

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Originally Posted by MARK EG

i just think it's daft that someone who has obviously given soooo much to techno is given such a slating so much. i don't agree with alot of things he does, but hell, i have so much respect for him. come on you haters, can't you see this?????

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I see what you're saying Mark, but there's no excuse for being a cnut. Especially when you do what you love for a living.

Jesus... god knows I meet enough DJs and producers who do what they do whilst still keeping up a full time job - often which they don't particularly like - and do so with a smile on their face, and never get paid the amount DC does or get half the exposure - and IMHO many are much more talented and original, but that's just my opinion and worth no more or less than anyone elses.

In short - I do respect him and what he's done, but I wouldn't slate the guy if he didn't have such a bad attitude, which I have experienced first hand a couple of times.

As an aside, a funny story:

Backstage at an unnamed event in Nottingham...

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Bouncer: OK, everyone without wristbands has to leave... now!

DC: But I'm the DJ...

Bouncer: I don't care mate, get out...

DC: No seriously, I'm the headline DJ, I'm Dave Clarke...

Bouncer: I don't care if you're Chris ****ing Moyles mate, you can **** off...

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I nearly choked on my beer...

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Originally Posted by Stella Boy

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wonder why promoters are willing to pay so much money for him.

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because he packs 'em in and as a promotor that's what you need otherwise you're an ex-promotor :roll:

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So does Tiesto...

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

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Originally Posted by MARK EG

i just think it's daft that someone who has obviously given soooo much to techno is given such a slating so much. i don't agree with alot of things he does, but hell, i have so much respect for him. come on you haters, can't you see this?????

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I see what you're saying Mark, but there's no excuse for being a cnut. Especially when you do what you love for a living.

Jesus... god knows I meet enough DJs and producers who do what they do whilst still keeping up a full time job - often which they don't particularly like - and do so with a smile on their face, and never get paid the amount DC does or get half the exposure - and IMHO many are much more talented and original, but that's just my opinion and worth no more or less than anyone elses.

In short - I do respect him and what he's done, but I wouldn't slate the guy if he didn't have such a bad attitude, which I have experienced first hand a couple of times.

As an aside, a funny story:

Backstage at an unnamed event in Nottingham...

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Bouncer: OK, everyone without wristbands has to leave... now!

DC: But I'm the DJ...

Bouncer: I don't care mate, get out...

DC: No seriously, I'm the headline DJ, I'm Dave Clarke...

Bouncer: I don't care if you're Chris **** Moyles mate, you can **** off...

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I nearly choked on my beer...

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well if your mates had put out records with the magnitude of the Red series 10 years ago then they'd be at Clarke's level ... he hasnt got this big for nothing you know, and like the guy or not he's responsible for records that have, and there's simply no debating this, changed the face of techno... thats some feat, cunt or not

the thing that gets me is that people think the guy got into the business and automatically ended up top of the pile, bullshit, ive had many conversations with DC and he's put up with more shit than half of us lot on here, and to be honest i hope i have to put up with half the troubles he has as if nothing else its made him into the person he is, he doesnt care what some people think and rightly so, people say "ohhh he's a cunt, really nasty and obnoxious"... well i know i would be if everyone slagged me off as much as they do to Clarke

i know people on here know the guy first hand and he can be a really genuinely nice guy at times, i can vouch for that, but yeah, and like EVERYONE ON HERE, he can be a cunt at times

re Clarke filling your club, Tony's correct, and yes so are you, Tiesto fills a club too, but he wouldnt fill any techno clubs would he. doh!

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

well if your mates had put out records with the magnitude of the Red series 10 years ago then they'd be at Clarke's level ... he hasnt got this big for nothing you know, and like the guy or not he's responsible for records that have, and there's simply no debating this, changed the face of techno... thats some feat, cunt or not

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Not talking about my "mates", I'm talking about other Techno DJs. Some of whom are full time, some aren't, but all of whom have been really sound people who it was a pleasure to spend some time with. CJ Bolland and Justin Robertson, for example, were both great guys. Phil Hartnoll is one of the friendliest people I've ever met... and say what you like about Dave Clarke, but Orbital piss all over him in terms of contribution to music.

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

and like EVERYONE ON HERE, he can be a cunt at times

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Would those times be exclusively when he's DJing, or does it spill over into "normal" life as well...?

I'm going to shut up now, because at the end of the day I don't really know him so I can't honestly comment. Just saying that he's varied from merely austere to downright rude whenever I've met him - and so in my experience he's a bit of a cnut - and given that he has a pretty cool job he could just enjoy himself a bit.

Once again... lovely tunes and that, couldn't possibly knock his skills.

Probably a repost: http://www.idontseedeadpeople.com/da...g_good_day.wmv

my mistake, i presumed you meant people you know also, but Clarke and Orbital have contributed to electronic music in different aspects, to compare them is unjust... i know what your saying re people in the scene, i know Justin very well personally and used to run his old website, he's a good friend and when you compare him to say Clarke yeah the difference in attitude does show, but that doesnt mean Clarke's a bad person, he's not, he's just grumpy and obnoxious at times, like i said just as everyone, and i mean absolutely everyone, can be at times, so to berate someone for that is unfair... you have to remember, if your watching Clarke at a gig, its probably the 3rd or 4th of the week, and he's probably just literaly got off a plane or a 6 hour car journey or whatever, and sometimes people do just need a bit of time to themselves, especially when your about to Dj to a massive crowd

you summed it up yourself in your post, you dont know him, many people dont, so to slag the guy off is really bewildering, i havent spoken to him personally in a good year or so but its really funny watching people come up with these "situations" where he's made out to be the biggest monster in the world, give the guy a break for gods sake, i thought of all places he wouldnt get torn to pieces its on here

its getting very like Overload on here, and thats not good at all, quite sad in fact :evil:

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

my mistake, i presumed you meant people you know also .... blah blah blah .... and thats not good at all, quite sad in fact :evil:

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So, to sum up... you think it's ok for people to be obnoxious and rude at times...

I don't - especially if they earn much more than me, doing something I'd give my left testicle to do professionally.

Difference in opinion, and not worth arguing much further IMHO.

you've quoted me out of context here, the "its quite sad infact" bit was in refference to the evergrowing nature of this forum, totally seperate...

i do think everyone had the right to be obnoxious or rude at times yes, there are a number of factors behind a DJ that people fail to recognise, they are still normal people, and no one is rude just for the sake of it, ive done gigs were ive had very harsh family problems on my mind and ive done the gig and i might have come across as moody or rude on the said night, but so what, if ive got something troubling me then i wouldnt think twice about being a bit out of character with someone i dont even know... as soon as you get behind a pair of decks in a respected club your open to attack, ive had it already, i was speaking to a guy the other day online and he said his mates have been slagging me off because apparently i blanked him at Voodoo NYE and wouldnt sign a poster for him, well it was news to me and apparently the guy had been really slagging me off, to the best of my knowledge i certainly didnt ignore anyone that night, nor would i

and the old "oh he gets paid alot more than me and id love to do that" doesnt really wash, he's only doing it because he's put the effort in and made it happen, of course im sure he's had some good luck too, as do most, but people forget he the guy used to work in a bloody shoe shop before he started producing and djing and lived in a damp flat in Brighton, everyone starts off somewhere and ends up somewhere else, good luck to the guy i say he's reaping what he's sown

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

you've quoted me out of context here, the "its quite sad infact" bit was in refference to the evergrowing nature of this forum, totally seperate...

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I didn't quote anything of consequence... I quoted the first few words then put "blah blah blah" then the last few words, to indicate I was replying in context of your whole post, without necessarily needing to quote it all. Sorry, I should have made this clearer.

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

i do think everyone had the right to be obnoxious or rude at times yes, there are a number of factors behind a DJ that people fail to recognise, they are still normal people, and no one is rude just for the sake of it, ive done gigs were ive had very harsh family problems on my mind and ive done the gig and i might have come across as moody or rude on the said night, but so what, if ive got something troubling me then i wouldnt think twice about being a bit out of character with someone i dont even know... as soon as you get behind a pair of decks in a respected club your open to attack, ive had it already, i was speaking to a guy the other day online and he said his mates have been slagging me off because apparently i blanked him at Voodoo NYE and wouldnt sign a poster for him, well it was news to me and apparently the guy had been really slagging me off, to the best of my knowledge i certainly didnt ignore anyone that night, nor would i

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I understand what you're saying, but there's a line between standoffish and all out rude, which (IMHO) doesn't need crossing. But, I conceed, this is just my way of looking at things - and no more or less valid than yours.

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

and the old "oh he gets paid alot more than me and id love to do that" doesnt really wash, he's only doing it because he's put the effort in and made it happen, of course im sure he's had some good luck too, as do most, but people forget he the guy used to work in a bloody shoe shop before he started producing and djing and lived in a damp flat in Brighton, everyone starts off somewhere and ends up somewhere else, good luck to the guy i say he's reaping what he's sown

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We agree on something then...

haha

:twisted: ;)

Oh yeah I love that oft mentioned quote about how he survived on five pounds a day..

Wow, you lived on the dole dave! What a struggle you've had to face man

Pah

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Originally Posted by schlongfingers

Oh yeah I love that oft mentioned quote about how he survived on five pounds a day..

Wow, you lived on the dole dave! What a struggle you've had to face man

Pah

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Eeeeh when I were a lad... (etc.)

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Originally Posted by eyes without a face

its getting very like Overload on here, and thats not good at all, quite sad in fact :evil:

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I agree, im not a heavy poster, but I do read most stuff on the forum and just lately it seems like its getting a bit much (a bit heavy!) towards our fellow DJs/Producers

Well, so long as things are truthful what's the issue?

Love him or hate him, you still have to appreciate this video :lol:

http://beta.livesets.com/daveclarke/...g_good_day.wmv

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

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Originally Posted by Stella Boy

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wonder why promoters are willing to pay so much money for him.

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because he packs 'em in and as a promotor that's what you need otherwise you're an ex-promotor :roll:

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So does Tiesto...

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And ?