Jeff Mills @ Jam last night

****in awesome he was!! proper ripped the place up! got a couple of tune id need doing but only jus got in and going to work now so i'll sort the video clips out in bit

surgeon played a mean ableton live set too!! goo dway to finish of a night!!

was very interesting to hear sims b2b finke D&B set, quality from start to finish, never met sims before and spoke to him, dunno if it was me but he seemed to have a bit of a bad attitude, shame really..... might have been me tho :oops:

top night in all!!! :clap:

aint lkin fwd to a long days wk but hey, hardcore till i die (not literally...)

yeah it was a great night all round :clap:

mills set was ace but surgeon ripped it up with one of the hardest sets ive ever heard him play + the venue was probably one of the best venues ive been to :cool:

Firsttime id seen Jeff Mills, and he played some cool beats, although have to say did get a little bored and he was a little sloppy (although ppl had told me that) appreciate the whole 3 deck mixing though and dropping in a mix within 10 seconds of doing the other mix lol!

Surgeon was proper banging, and the tune for me was Aphex Twin - Come to daddy, SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!!!! 'i want your soul...........'

They should use that club more, clean toilets, MY GOD, how NICE!!!!!

Nice soundsystem, decor, visuals, tidy and just cool i think. I know techno suits some grime but i have to say i did enjoy not feeling grubby in like 5 mins of being there.
Have to add it was pleasant meeting Chris Finke, very nice geezer.

Have to admit it was worth the journey up just to hear that remix of come to daddy the screaming breakdown just sounded incredible

tune for me wwas when mills dropped energy flash!!! OH! quality!

yeah venue is awesome!!!

for a dj to use 3 decks and then take 1 tune out and turn around (with 2 tunes still playing over each other) and look through his records for a min or so and the beats stay in u can afford a little sloppiness ;)

finke is a proppa geeza! quality

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Originally Posted by Fake DJ

for a dj to use 3 decks and then take 1 tune out and turn around (with 2 tunes still playing over each other) and look through his records for a min or so and the beats stay in u can afford a little sloppiness ;)

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Very true, and Mills is a bit more old skool in the way he mixes, you don't see him lashing the FX out of it for instance. He's a bit more freestyle and spontaneous, sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.

Anyway with regard 3 deck techno mixing, it was Mills and Cox that developed it and brought it full circle.. if Mills trainwrecks here and there I don't mind, he's earned that right as far as I'm concerned.

exactly thats why i said i appreciate what mills was doing ;)

very inspiriational, slightly off tangent, when i sawInigo Kennedy on three decks , and finding a tune with two tunes going, i have to say made even less errors, hes been the most inspirational to me so far.

But yeh its all good

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Originally Posted by miss bass

exactly thats why i said i appreciate what mills was doing ;)

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You know your stuff Miss Bass ;)
Mills is the man :clap:
I haven't seen Inigo play yet actually, would really like to.

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Originally Posted by miss bass

exactly thats why i said i appreciate what mills was doing ;)

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You know your stuff Miss Bass ;)
Mills is the man :clap:
I haven't seen Inigo play yet actually, would really like to.

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lol im LEARNING put it that way, anyhow, Inigo Kennedy for me i think has been one of the best djs i have seen, i havnt seen many though lol!!
I think Oliver Ho is also wicked too, just bangs those tunes in , cuts like a demon!
And yes i agree Jeff Mills did show some skills, which i definately should practise!!!!

Jeff Mills was quality, totally intense 3 deck class. last time I herd him play that well was at tribal gathering 97 just after one mr alan oldham had ripped it up as well.

hilight for me was strings of life, at a time when it was all getting a bit oppressive, it was like a breath of fresh air. it was a cheesy remix of "SoL" but it rearly worked with the tracks that he played before and after. :lol: :lol: (on the drive down to b.ham I herd some bozo from radio one play it live in ibiza as the last tune of the summer.....its THAT cheesy) hehehe still i danced like a proper mo fo :twisted: ;) Jeff Mills is still da man..

on a sad point though i was gutted to see the Surgeon playing on his laptop.. i know how a lot of people feel about this so i am going to be carefull how i put it......ITS NOT DJING.... I was a great fan of the surgoen until I acually saw him do this. it may be quality down on the dancefloor but at the and of the day why dont you just sack everything off, get rid off the decks and just put on a tape or cd.... doesn't it add up to the same thing. get your bedroom stereo out and lets have a party.... No lets go and see mills rip it up on 3 decks and 909's.
I know the surgoen like to embrace new technology but this is just my opinion. rant over ...mills rocked :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by romelpotter

Jeff Mills was quality, totally intense 3 deck class. last time I herd him play that well was at tribal gathering 97 just after one mr alan oldham had ripped it up as well.

hilight for me was strings of life, at a time when it was all getting a bit oppressive, it was like a breath of fresh air. it was a cheesy remix of "SoL" but it rearly worked with the tracks that he played before and after. :lol: :lol: (on the drive down to b.ham I herd some bozo from radio one play it live in ibiza as the last tune of the summer.....its THAT cheesy) hehehe still i danced like a proper mo fo :twisted: ;) Jeff Mills is still da man..

on a sad point though i was gutted to see the Surgeon playing on his laptop.. i know how a lot of people feel about this so i am going to be carefull how i put it......ITS NOT DJING.... I was a great fan of the surgoen until I acually saw him do this. it may be quality down on the dancefloor but at the and of the day why dont you just sack everything off, get rid off the decks and just put on a tape or cd.... doesn't it add up to the same thing. get your bedroom stereo out and lets have a party.... No lets go and see mills rip it up on 3 decks and 909's.
I know the surgoen like to embrace new technology but this is just my opinion. rant over ...mills rocked :lol: :lol: :lol:

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he was doing a ableton live set, i thought it rocked

that was definately the best jam i've been to,and the first time i heard surgeon,what an experience!Jeff mills was splendid but i thought surgeon was awesome!!!Might book him for our next night

actually do you think it s possible to download of surgeon's set?Please someone let me know

very doubtful, i dont think any1 will have recorded there tbh, ive got about 12 seconds of it on my digi cam if thats any help ;) lol

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Originally Posted by romelpotter

on a sad point though i was gutted to see the Surgeon playing on his laptop.. i know how a lot of people feel about this so i am going to be carefull how i put it......ITS NOT DJING.... I was a great fan of the surgoen until I acually saw him do this. it may be quality down on the dancefloor but at the and of the day why dont you just sack everything off, get rid off the decks and just put on a tape or cd.... doesn't it add up to the same thing. get your bedroom stereo out and lets have a party.... No lets go and see mills rip it up on 3 decks and 909's.
I know the surgoen like to embrace new technology but this is just my opinion. rant over ...mills rocked :lol: :lol: :lol:

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i vote this reply for the dumbass reply of the year.

I don't think thats a very dumbass reply at all, it's certainly a fair comment, and as its a matter of opinion saying its dumbass is a bit harsh. I totally enjoyed the set, thought it was proper rippin it up, and I don't really care what its coming off if its that good. But I must say, Surgeon is not exactly the most animated of performers, in fact he hardly moved at all for the full two hours of his set, so I can see how people may feel that he wasn't doing much.

As for Mills, he hardly moved or cracked a smile either (as per usual) but his hands were flying all over the place, with predictable results - absolutely bangin. I've heard him play better, but when he's average, I reckon he's still better than most.

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

As for Mills, he hardly moved or cracked a smile either (as per usual) but his hands were flying all over the place, with predictable results - absolutely bangin. I've heard him play better, but when he's average, I reckon he's still better than most.

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i have video evidence to prove otherwise ;)

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

. But I must say, Surgeon is not exactly the most animated of performers, in fact he hardly moved at all for the full two hours of his set, .

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he turned round to get a drink of water!!!! lol :lol:

did any1 see his wife and kid sat under a table in the dj booth, his wife reading a paper?!? :eh:

also there is a tune that mills played bout 2/3 of way thru his set, its got a very piano riff and has been used in quite a few other tunes, but cant for the life of me think wat it is? no its not the best of descritpions but thats all i can

i got a vid off it but cant find put it on here anyway, im settin my comp up as a server so might b able to then

its also on jeff mills live from liquid room bout 41 mins of way thru, but this he played a more recent soundin version :)

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

Did any 1 see his wife and kid sat under a table in the dj booth, his wife reading a paper?!? :eh:

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She was reading a magazine last night at locked.Must've been a good read because she didn't take her eyes from it for a good hour :lol:

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

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Originally Posted by Miromiric

i vote this reply for the dumbass reply of the year.

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Miromiric i thank you for your vote of dumbass reply of the year, my reply is one i feel strongly about and as i said is only my opinion. so if my opinion to you is dumbass then I can live with that as it is my opinion. If you were to comment and let us know your thinking on the matter, then it might make for a more interesting thread.

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

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that be the one!

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

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yea it was string of life, and it was on the liquid rooms, but it was a different mix he played at the jam, the bass sounded a lot fatter, it was cool. :cool:

romel, when someone plays on ableton or whatever he is actually doing something and not just standing there. imho it is much more exciting musicalwise then decks. you need to start listening and stop rationalizing.

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

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yea it was string of life, and it was on the liquid rooms, but it was a different mix he played at the jam, the bass sounded a lot fatter, it was cool. :cool:

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yeah and the strings sounded a little cleaner and fresher!! it ****in rocked!! but cudnt beat energy flash....actually it wasnt ebergy flash i dont think but a remix of it using the samples, any1 know wat it is

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Originally Posted by Miromiric

romel, when someone plays on ableton or whatever he is actually doing something and not just standing there. imho it is much more exciting musicalwise then decks. you need to start listening and stop rationalizing.

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playing live or djing on cd decks or records what ever ya cup of tea you are never just standing there, i understand that. I did listen and i said it sounded good, and i am in no doubt that the people who were rocking on the dance floor enjoyed it. maybe your right and i do need to start listening, but i didn't get excited when i saw him plug in his laptop, i didn't get as excited as when i see someone about to go mental behind the decks, thats just me. the musics the same 2 channel stereo feed coming from laptop or decks at the end of the day. imo its a performance that makes the difference.

fair enough.
but performance is g.h.e.y.only what matters is music and nothing else!

the way i see it is whatever comes out of the speakers is what matters. How that sound is produced is totally irrelivant.

Using ableton live or similiar is much more creative than playing someone elses tunes all night.

I have to disagree w/ Danny. I saw Surgeon do his Ableton Live show last year at Split and thought it was the most innovative thing I had ever seen.

The way I look at it is Surgeon has proven globally that he can spin and make hot tracks so if he wants to take the next step more power to him.

And he is still ACTUALLY MIXING, he's just not using decks to do it. If the idea is virtual DJing than this is far better than Final Scratch. With FS you still need vinyl and decks

And sorry guys, showmanship counts

Techno can be so anal sometimes. The amount of discussions and threads about the use of software instead of playing vinyl is getting rather boring. It's a DJ's choice on what he/she wants to use. We are all into this scene for techno music and, yes, it's great when you see a DJ interacting with the crowd in between mixes but surely it's the music that counts. I couldn't give a rats ass if the dj's bouncing like pogo stick all night or stood motionless, it's the end result that counts and you can't fault Surgeon for that.

hmmm ok so maybe using ableton live (certanly in the hands of the surgoen) is innovitve and the embrase of modern technology is good most of the time, and yes no matter how you perform be it djing or live, if the stuff thats coming out of the speaker is dull, lifeless and poor, then the crowd that has paid hard earned cash to see you will be disapointed and rightly so. So i guess both have to be above standard to please the crowd. btw i did think the music the surgoen was playing was absolutly rocking, for me its just the laptop thing, :lol:

What's this ableton program that's being refered to in this discussion? Is this similar to cubase, etc...better than?

check it out at http://www.ableton.com/

this jeff mills thread is quite funny =) i think he is th eoposite of surgeon and they both are good djs ... glad to see people likeboth ... for the otehrs, slagging each other, i just think its a bit useless.

Mills visual part is part of his performance, and that makes us forgive his sloppyness.... surgeon moves like if he is playing a CD, and the fact hes using ableton doents help, but hes doing something creative and mixes in a way noboy else does...

i just think we should focus to the final result (visual AND music) and i think these two djs provide us some of the best we can hear these days

about people's behaviour i met both sims & finke for a couple of minutes at the same times. yeah finke si talkative and very nice. yes sims is pretty quiet, but not arrogant ... elts say a party is no tthe best place to meet them, they're pretty busy enough not to be able to spend hours with their fans.. i think meeting in a quiet place or eat with them at a restaurant would make us ave a better idea of who they are.

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What's this ableton program that's being refered to in this discussion? Is this similar to cubase, etc...better than?

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i have a copy anyone with soulseek can download from me if they like...
coz i certinly cant get my head round the thing. :doh:

cue slagging from the piracy police :dontevengothere: :oops:

i saw Mills at Creamfields on the saturday and i must say i thought he was really good! a little sloppy at times but for me personally i let this go over my head, the music more than makes up for it as does the atmosphere that Jeff incites in the crowd.

as for Finkey and Sims, agreed, both are down to earth and easy going guys, big up to em!

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As for Mills, he hardly moved or cracked a smile either (as per usual) but his hands were flying all over the place, with predictable results - absolutely bangin. I've heard him play better, but when he's average, I reckon he's still better than most.

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i have video evidence to prove otherwise ;)

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Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga

. But I must say, Surgeon is not exactly the most animated of performers, in fact he hardly moved at all for the full two hours of his set, .

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also there is a tune that mills played bout 2/3 of way thru his set, its got a very piano riff and has been used in quite a few other tunes, but cant for the life of me think wat it is? no its not the best of descritpions but thats all i can

i got a vid off it but cant find put it on here anyway, im settin my comp up as a server so might b able to then

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how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

hard house alert.

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how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

hard house alert.

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Because they are stupid idiots who obviously should have been born with this information.

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how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

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isn't t some oldskool bollocks?

hahahaha quality....to be honest i too am amazed at anyone who has a slight intrest in techno doesnt know what strings of life is...

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how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

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isn't t some oldskool bollocks?

hahahaha quality....to be honest i too am amazed at anyone who has a slight intrest in techno doesnt know what strings of life is...

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who is derrick may ?

what is a dj ?

do still people listen to vinyl ??? isnt it outdated ???? do people actually issue vinyl ??

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how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

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isn't t some oldskool bollocks?

hahahaha quality....to be honest i too am amazed at anyone who has a slight intrest in techno doesnt know what strings of life is...

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who is derrick may ?

what is a dj ?

do still people listen to vinyl ??? isnt it outdated ???? do people actually issue vinyl ??

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dunno mate..never heard of derick may...wasnt he off coranation street or something?

can someone ID a tune for me? its really old...about 1990/1991 or something it has a big bad bassline and it says...ecstasy..ecstacy.. :clap: :lol:

That track is Flash In The Pan by Joey "NRG" Deacon :twisted:

or maybe beltram?

that strings of life is such a cheesy tune.

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how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

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isn't t some oldskool bollocks?

hahahaha quality....to be honest i too am amazed at anyone who has a slight intrest in techno doesnt know what strings of life is...

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who is derrick may ?

what is a dj ?

do still people listen to vinyl ??? isnt it outdated ???? do people actually issue vinyl ??

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dunno mate..never heard of derick may...wasnt he off coranation street or something?

can someone ID a tune for me? its really old...about 1990/1991 or something it has a big bad bassline and it says...ecstasy..ecstacy.. :clap: :lol:

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almost sure its on tidy trax....and its by ermmmm,cant think just now....ermm gurner ketamineman off the gurn board might know.hes the man! ;) :lol:

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that strings of life is such a cheesy tune.

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You said it :clap:

Really enjoyed the jam on friday highlight was definitley come to daddy! such an awesome tune was well glad to when he played it at locked on saturday too! :lol: :love:

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That track is Flash In The Pan by Joey "NRG" Deacon :twisted:

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quality :lol:

youve gotta get that 'NRG' in aint ya! :clap:

Joey Deacon is the man.

John Deacon was pretty decent too. :lol: