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a bit personal i know,but i'm just curious to know about my fellow techno heads and dj's alike.
I'll start the ball rolling by saying i do,but only if i'm not driving.I love techno music without the drugs,i've been playing it for 6 years,but for a party its good to loose it once in a while...
What about everyone else,especially in other countries
The hardest thing is going out regularly and taking drugs really effects the rest of your week. Most of the people I know can't do all nighters more than once every 6-8 weeks because they have kids or jobs that require them to be with it on a Monday.
I tend to try and reduce the time I go out to a 3 of hours and go later to a party/club that way you can have a few beers and smokes - and have a laugh. I trat going out a bit like a gig anyway because I'm more into the music than hugging my mates every weekend, tbh.
Pub nights are good because you then have the choice to drink or set spazed - everybody is happy. I wish London had more techno pub nights.
I do, sometimes, but I can easily enjoy parties straight, or on alcohol. I used to though, serveral years back, only go out on something...which is quite pathetic really. A few king kongs and techno still go down like a treat.
never have gone out straight and i never will.
i just dont see the point. the music we listen to is plain an simple drug music. Im not saying i dont like it unless im spannered (far from it) but its all about the drugs IMO... and it always will be.
My night would be incomplete without a big bag of pills
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Originally Posted by oldbugger
i don't agree i've done with and without and basically prever it without when i'm out, then you actually remember what was played
though idont find this thread the most clever thing posted ehre, here is my opinion :
i can be really wasted with alcohol in all kind of parties (as dj, on the dancefloor, on a non techno party) .... but ive never tried any other drug, even cigarette, once in my life. i think its the best way to be 100% youll never fall addicted though of course you dont fall addict at first time (uh, anyone tried crack ???)
so thats my state of mind, i can also not take anything to enjoy my nites, specially when i dj =)))
I used to cain it each and every weekend, sometimes from Thursday night right through to Monday morning and then go to work unable to speak to people, and with my head in a total mess. I'd spend most of the day trying not to throw up on my desk.
Now I prefer having a clear head the day after a party, and being able to go out and do something with the rest of my weekend, so I generally stay straight, and maybe only have a few beers. I still enjoy myself just as much if not more than I used to.
Occasionally I'll have a wee cheeky one if I feel like it, but in general I don't see the point now. The cons of the day after far outweigh any pros of the night before.
The advantage as far as I can see is that the music does have to be of a better quality though. When I'm hammered I find I'll dance to anything :lol: , but when you know your going to be straight all night you make sure the place your going is going to be musically A1.
i dont really care if i remember what was played....as long as i have a good time.Quote:
Originally Posted by zaalmoetlos
I suppose i just come from the time when the drugs were better that the music :lol:
i must admit..i dont do t everyweekend like i used to though. i dont think my old and fragile mind could cope anymore.
but going out straight...**** that, i couldnt think of anything worse, i would rather stay home with a nice cup of tea than do that.
your kidding right, you sound like a member of parliament.Quote:
just dont see the point. the music we listen to is plain an simple drug music.
I don`t take drugs when going out any more (or very very rarely).
I got into this scene for the music, I make it, I listen to it at home, or whilst traveling. The drugs I discovered by accident.
Most producers I know make their music when they are straight. Music made by people on drugs, tend to appeal only to people on drugs (not always admittedly)
Now I`ve decided to be straight most of the time, I love the music still, and I want to hear it as it is, without the mental distortion of substance abuse.
Alcohol is the drug that kills more people every year than the deaths of all the other illegal drugs put together.Quote:
i can be really wasted with alcohol in all kind of parties (as dj, on the dancefloor, on a non techno party) .... but ive never tried any other drug, even cigarette, once in my life. i think its the best way to be 100% youll never fall addicted
More people are addicted to alcohol than all the other drugs put together.
Alcohol addiction creeps up on you, and most people won`t even have a clue that they are an alcoholic.
At least a crack head knows they are a crackhead.
Alcohol is a huge bind on resources, both the health service, and the police. (due to injuries, fighting, car accidents etc)
Alcohol is a drug.[/quote]
i just dont see the point. the music we listen to is plain an simple drug music. Im not saying i dont like it unless im spannered (far from it) but its all about the drugs IMO... and it always will be.
My night would be incomplete without a big bag of pills
thats absolutley pathetic!
plain and simple drug music????? if you knew ur techno then you'd know that techno started with May and Co, people who claim they have never taken any narcotics in their life. 99.9% of the music is produced by people who arent on drugs, and i feel sorry for anyone who says something like "my night would be incomplete without a big bag of pills".
Im not saying i dont do drugs now and then, i do, but its not the be all and end all
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Originally Posted by eyes without a face
DRUGS..mmmm...i would say its was good when i was young (18, 19, 20 ya know) but shite as ya get older...thats when the BEER things starts to become lots more fun, expensive mind but you dont feel shitty for the next 4 days :oops: or :shock: i would prefer :oops: and then 1 day later your :lol: instead of :eh: for the next 3..get the point dont ya!
WORD
I just like to smoke a big fat spliff when I'm out. I tried all sorts of dope when I was in high school, but now I only drink and smoke. I guess it's not the healthiest habit, but I tend not to think about that... :lol:
When spinning, I like to be sober, but if the gig's at 4am or something like that, I'll definetly have a drink or two to warm me up and pass the time before I start. Not too much though, or the mixing will be sloppy, which is also why it isn't good to mix if you're too stoned... I can MAKE music when I'm stoned, but my mixing tends to get more sloppy as I smoke...
Anyway, techno can be thouroughly enjoyed when sober just as much as when totally mashed, you just have to get into it... (gotta go smoke one now) :crackup:
90% of the time im straight when out raving, djing or whatever else. 10% a bit of ching is nice if i can afford it, my head wont be mangled the next day and i can get on with every day life. There's nothing worse than sitting in the studio with your head up your arse not being able to get anything done.
The music does the work for me, dont need drugs. There shit nowadays anyway[/url][/quote]
right...where to start?
when i started going out it WAS all about the drugs. the love for the music came later though.
wether ot not the music is produced by people who take drugs or not is totally irrelevent IMO. Its still music aimed at a dancefloor full of mashed clubbers. Anyone who doesnt agree is talking shit or they are thinking too much about what it really is. I stand by my comment...its drug music. nothing more.nothing less.
thats half the problem these days since all dance music became so popular.
i first had the love for the music cause i wasnt old enough to go to raves and take drugs...for me it was always the music, drugs did start to become more popular ..but still the music was for me ...my friends were really into getting twated...but i was facinated with the music and the djing thing ....and still am :roll:
Anyone who doesnt agree is talking shit or they are thinking too much about what it really is
thats hilarious.... so your basically saying that everyone who believes in their music and others music without being on drugs is talking shit? your saying that the hundreds of talented producers and Djs who absolutely LIVE for the music (not the drugs, like u) are talking shit?
superb stuff, and there was me thinking that u actually did know what u were talking about for a while aswell.... how i was proved wrong!
but apart from that, this topic shouldnt really be in here should it?
Sam cud u move this to the insane forum please? this has nothing to do with hard or club techno ;)
you really are begining to be a cock.
infact..**** it..i cant be arsed to explain.. The sooner this scene gets back to believe its all about the drugs the better.
its far too full of arseholes who think far too much rather than having a good time..afterall thats what its all about.
if anyone's the cock here mate its you....
The sooner this scene gets back to believe its all about the drugs the better.
this sort of comment u expect from some 16 year old kid whose just started getting into drugs.... not an old timer like urself....
thing is people on these boards arnt just the normal joe clubber like on the bugged out board were, there are people here who wud literaly die for their music and that sounds extreme, but its true. to have someone whose been on the board for 5 minutes coming out with comments like that is just unacceptable really.....
its ****in laughable really... anyway..enough of this.
end of.
hahahaha
your powers to hold a heated discussion astound me
:roll:
come on ladies, behave.haha
I havent been clubbing for a while, one of the reasons is because I dont do anything but get stoned these days, poor excuse I know, but I honestly dont trust myself not to do any class a's....fair play to people who go and dont take anything but I dont think I could do it.
I dont need drugs to appreciate music, far from it, it's more the atmosphere in a club that would make me do them again.
yeah john, u hold a few records in clubland for ur excessiveness..... remeber that night at Addiction..... haha oh dear!
Man has been dancing to music since he first found out wacking a stick on a hollow log made a nice sound.
Drugs weren`t always a part of this.
Dance music in native culture is very rarely drug assisted.
It`s normally a ritual, putting people into a trance-like state through the use of repetative rhythms. the coming together of people dancing provides an energy in itself, and is a very powerful thing. I think this is one of the reasons why free parties were clamped down on so heavily.
For me the best music gives me the rush without the drug.
haha dont remind me mate :lol: them days are way behind, just need to find the motivation to start going to nights regulary again without help from chemicals.
Dirty Bass - WORD!
John - hahahaha just stop being so lazy!
thats true, laziness does play a big role in me not going to nights :lol:
drugs ( the right ones) can make techno sound amazing
that's for sure. and you hear stuff that maybe isn't there or is a hidden harmonic in there somewhere and you tune into the sound system for the night.
also there's the social factor of getting trashed with some mates in a club
that's fun too.
listening to music straight is a different story , it might not take you on a " trip " as it were but you definately get plenty out of it, maybe just in a different way , maybe you latch onto more tangible things like dj skills etc.......
being in a club is like taking drugs anyway really , it's like a sensory deprivation tank.
meaning that your senses are so overloaded that you almost start to trip out from the experience.( why do we do this to ourselves??)
drugs aren't in themeselves "dirty" or "stupid"
it's the users who make that choice
all drugs should be used with care and understanding , never underestimate what they can do to you .
i must admit though personally it was the music first
drugs came a little later and showed me a new door that had always been there just waiting for me to open it.
Clubbing is about the music and the socialising. Sometimes i'm in a great frame of mind and go out completely straight. Sometimes i need a few drinks to lower my inhibition and sometimes i need something a little stronger to get that frame of mind.
Either way i'm still the same person talking the same rubbish and dancing to the same music.
I love producers who can deeply layer vocal chants etc. that really only seem to come into their own when you're trashed. The A side of the last Highlands Beats by Liefhebber is a perfect example.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
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Originally Posted by MangaFish
i'd like to point out that there are two e's in beer. ;)
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im sorry, but the rubbish you have posted throughout this thread really is laughable. the comments you have just made are typical of somebody who knows jack shit about the genre.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
not all techno is aimed at the dancefloor. and since when did 100% of the dancefloor become regular drug users?
your comments are both degrading & insulting to the genre. why even bother to particapate on this board if you hold such a low opinion of techno?
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Originally Posted by Col
you cheeky ****ers..
I love music as much as anyone else here... however to me the music and the drugs go hand in hand.
not enough drug taking and too much talking about what makes a good tune or a good night out going on here,,
F*ck this.
so what your saying is you'd prefer it if we posted about how trashed we at the weekend than talk about how the latest tune on x? :eh:Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
am sorry bit i have to agree here. it is a really sad opinion you have on this subject imo and one i don't like seeing on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
How the **** is that a low opinion of techno? people should NOT assume this and they should also realise their are actually different opinions to their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
Saying its drug music is not a low opinion...to me that is what it has always been about. (and in my eyes it always will) i live and breath music and i do appreciate it when straight..however doesnt make me into a ignoramus with no respect for the genre..
start actually considdering we are not all the same (thank christ)
not at all...where did i ever give you that idea? i only brought it up in a topic about taking drugs... its quite apt.. i certainly dont go about saying how twatted i get :dontevengothere:Quote:
Originally Posted by MangaFish
your point was techno is drug music, right?
well i'm sat here listening to miss bass' mix (bloody good mix it is at that) and i'm most deffinatly not the kind of guy that takes drugs to chat on the internet. does this meen that i'm not listening to techno? it sure sounds like techno to me
i quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
"not enough drug taking and too much talking about what makes a good tune"
im not ignorant to the fact that drugs are a part of the genre's culture & history, but to say the music is controlled by drugs is as far away from the truth than anybody could possibly imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldbugger
read the inspiration thread.
Theres one word to answer this
NO
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i dont need to read anything...i have my opinion...i love techno .i love drugs too..to me they go hand in hand they always have done in the 16 years i have been clubbing/partying. Far too many chin stokers about in clubland these days for my liking,Quote:
Originally Posted by Col
some people need to chill out here.
a question was asked to everyone, and people gave their answers.
now certain people are getting their knickers in a twist over oldbugger's comments.
he's always put IMO in his posts, but certain people are getting in a strop because they dont like his comments, and are telling him his opinion is wrong. is it the case on here where you arent allowed to express your opinion without upsetting someone?
what happened to freedom of speech?
fair enough, you may not agree, but why turn it into a attack based on your own principals?
and to answer the question, yes i do take drugs when i go out.
all part of the fun for me. don't think i could do a night straight.
clubs and drugs go hand in hand to me.
but of course thats IMO. ;)
fair enough its his opinion, but we're just questioning the logic behind such a genralised statement as "techno is drug music".Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
i personally find a comment like that bit insulting when most of the time i'm out at techno gigs i've had 3 drinks at the most
thats fair enough, but your saying YOU enjoy the night out after a little chemical stimulation. your not passing comment on the MUSIC itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by kitten