What is Schranz?

Pardon my ignorance, but I keep reading people refering to it on this board, but have no idea what it is. :eh:

What labels/djs are knocking it out?

Seems to me that the pidgeon holing of genres is getting out of control...

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Originally Posted by speed-it-up

Seems to me that the pidgeon holing of genres is getting out of control...

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heya, i feel the same way. then again i was never to comfortable when house and techno split around 1992 :-) And dont even get me started on Trance splitting from Techno around 1994.

teh best thing about these micro genres is they seldom last more than a few years.

to answer your question, schranz imo is the gray area between techno, gabber and maybe even trance.

there is cats on this forum that can tell you much much more.

i think the best thing to listen to know what schranz is, is to listen the earl CLAU releases by chris liebing (the ten inchs series, which turned 12" since the number 8).

to me its the music describing the mso thtis name, and actually the rumor says its also the one taht inventd that name.

otherwise lsiten to any of dj rush set...

it's just a new word for hard techno
generally with a bit of distortion in it , chris leibing coined the phrase and now everyone uses it.
load of old bollocks if you ask me

nah, there is big difference between typical gabba/hc and schranz IMO. most of schranz djs I know or just talk too think hc is just a bit to fast anyway :lol:

term schranz doesnt mean anything, Liebing came up with that term, when he was asked to describe his "minimalistic but energetic, hard sets" in his radio show "Es ist Freiiiitaaag Aaaabend".. or something like that, dont remember, its story from 1999., and thats a long time ago :lol:

mmmm
enlightening
Think I'm tending towards the "load of old bollox" camp.

[quote="speed-it-up"]What labels/djs are knocking it out? [quote]

united schranz board http://usb.unitedsb.de/index.php
with most known schranz djs and labels, some of them post here too..

also check "schranz total" cd series..I think the latest is number 10..

Schranz (IMHO) just another name for hard techno, as said before... My impression of schranz still is the 150 bpm monotone pounding beatz without any depth of content.

DJ's / Producers: Rush, Frank Kvitta, ViperXXL, Amok, Ogi, Daniel Gloomy are to be labeled in the schranz-section... But yeah... it's all just "too-hard-&-too-fast-techno" for me :twisted:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Schranz
Schranz is the name given to European hard techno, a style of techno typically around 140-150 BPM and based around massively bass-heavy kick drums, driving percussion and distorted, looping synth noises. The term originated in 1994 when Chris Liebing used it to describe a certain type of techno in a record store he ran; it has no particular meaning in any language. Some important producers in the genre are DJ Amok, DJ Rush, Sven Wittekind, The Anxious, Arkus P, Marco Remus and Patrik Skoog.

Nice to see a few of the boys mentioned in there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schranz

Basicaly its just a quick way of describing a certain kind of hard techno(atho not all hard Techno)
Not sure if P scoog is Shranze tho(not IMO)

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Originally Posted by Rydel

Schranz (IMHO) just another name for hard techno, as said before... My impression of schranz still is the 150 bpm monotone pounding beatz without any depth of content.

DJ's / Producers: Rush, Frank Kvitta, ViperXXL, Amok, Ogi, Daniel Gloomy are to be labeled in the schranz-section... But yeah... it's all just "too-hard-&-too-fast-techno" for me :twisted:

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Ogi?
I think you mean Obi.

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Ogi?
I think you mean Obi.

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Hmmm, could have mentioned OBI too, but no, I did mean Ogi

Saw DJ Rush at Split/Atomic Jam last year. If what he played then was Schranz, you can keep it. I'd call it "plod" but then its each to their own.

A lot of techno you hear played out nowadays seems to be missing "the funk" or that vital spark to differentiate one track from the next.

im come down from playing speedcore/hardcore tehno and now to playing schranz and its ****in lovely .....

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Originally Posted by Mindful

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Schranz
Schranz is the name given to European hard techno, a style of techno typically around 140-150 BPM and based around massively bass-heavy kick drums, driving percussion and distorted, looping synth noises. The term originated in 1994 when Chris Liebing used it to describe a certain type of techno in a record store he ran; it has no particular meaning in any language. Some important producers in the genre are DJ Amok, DJ Rush, Sven Wittekind, The Anxious, Arkus P, Marco Remus and Patrik Skoog.

Nice to see a few of the boys mentioned in there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schranz

Basicaly its just a quick way of describing a certain kind of hard techno(atho not all hard Techno)
Not sure if P scoog is Shranze tho(not IMO)

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Skoog and Anxious Schranz?
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a lot of schranz bores me thesedays....just seems to be far too many silly samples used with that 'same' boring stupidly fast beat.
wheres the funk gone?i recall being able to see dj rush a few years ago and although it could be looked upon as 'schranz' he was playing there was always this layer of groove going on that seems to be lacking in hard techno thesedays.

saying that though.....really hard techno on a night out can be fun after about 3am and everyones avin it. :lol:

your right their danny but its a bit different for me as iv coem down from a different scene which catered for the extreem , i do still need to blast out hard shit to slow or to soft dont seem to interest me unlees im ****in and cant tell :lol:

Just for the record, Liebing never owned a record store, he (like most of the rest of us) just shopped there all the time and coined the phrase to describe the distorted shredding sound he was looking for in records to his dealer. Next thing you know there is a bin in the record store labeled Schranz. He also started using it on his radio show.

This is straight from the horses mouth.

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Originally Posted by TheRev

Just for the record, Liebing never owned a record store, he (like most of the rest of us) just shopped there all the time and coined the phrase to describe the distorted shredding sound he was looking for in records to his dealer. Next thing you know there is a bin in the record store labeled Schranz. He also started using it on his radio show.

This is straight from the horses mouth.

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I heard he killed Avalon this weekend.

My ears are still ringing. :lol:

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

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Originally Posted by Mindful

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Schranz
Schranz is the name given to European hard techno, a style of techno typically around 140-150 BPM and based around massively bass-heavy kick drums, driving percussion and distorted, looping synth noises. The term originated in 1994 when Chris Liebing used it to describe a certain type of techno in a record store he ran; it has no particular meaning in any language. Some important producers in the genre are DJ Amok, DJ Rush, Sven Wittekind, The Anxious, Arkus P, Marco Remus and Patrik Skoog.

Nice to see a few of the boys mentioned in there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schranz

Basicaly its just a quick way of describing a certain kind of hard techno(atho not all hard Techno)
Not sure if P scoog is Shranze tho(not IMO)

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Skoog and Anxious Schranz?
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lol :nono:

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

your right their danny but its a bit different for me as iv coem down from a different scene which catered for the extreem , i do still need to blast out hard shit to slow or to soft dont seem to interest me unlees im **** and cant tell :lol:

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I spend some time on the sceene your on about(Ive played at Species and someone told me to speed it up)and Technos only just getting reconition but you have to play it hard on that perticular sceene if you try playing real techno at this perticular night for example youd probably get told to put some techno on followed by a bottle bouncing of the head :shock: haha

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Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Skoog and Anxious Schranz? :eh:

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Thats what I thought :eh:

yeah iv seen u play b4 i think b2b with kalvin , me and my mate played b2b at species in stoke early last year but didnt drop anythink hard , just stuff on stay up forever , bang on, north label etc and it went down quite well its gettin to s stage in that scene where when u play techno yes u do have to grind it out but with that little bit of cheekyness , i would still drop hard stuff at a proper techno event like but would have to build my way up first , as for the bottle haha it wouldnt be far off

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

yeah iv seen u play b4 i think b2b with kalvin , me and my mate played b2b at species in stoke early last year but didnt drop anythink hard , just stuff on stay up forever , bang on, north label etc and it went down quite well its gettin to s stage in that scene where when u play techno yes u do have to grind it out but with that little bit of cheekyness , i would still drop hard stuff at a proper techno event like but would have to build my way up first , as for the bottle haha it wouldnt be far off

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Yeh man I heard about that set with F Venom was it? I heard it was class and they all had it to the techno not sure the Manchester crowd would appreciate it as much.
Cal said he did an Acid set at the park and people were calling him a wanker and shit.
Ive heard the tape and it was sweet the mixing was spot on like

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Originally Posted by Mindful

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

yeah iv seen u play b4 i think b2b with kalvin , me and my mate played b2b at species in stoke early last year but didnt drop anythink hard , just stuff on stay up forever , bang on, north label etc and it went down quite well its gettin to s stage in that scene where when u play techno yes u do have to grind it out but with that little bit of cheekyness , i would still drop hard stuff at a proper techno event like but would have to build my way up first , as for the bottle haha it wouldnt be far off

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Yeh man I heard about that set with F Venom was it? I heard it was class and they all had it to the techno not sure the Manchester crowd would appreciate it as much.
Cal said he did an Acid set at the park and people were calling him a wanker and shit.
Ive heard the tape and it was sweet the mixing was spot on like

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i was at that nite aswell in manc it was the know fear nite so it wasnt a normal species calv's set was good i thought didnt see any arse holes chatin shit tho man , if i had i wouldnt of been happy like ,

i do remember when ribbz played a few years back and he cleared the room more or less as no one was realy interested in him , be sure tho it will grow on ppl their , i think its just if the right name plays it at them events all the die hard followers will take note and thay all seem to follow like lost sheep look at luke producer, he droped a few sets @ north and the events were bookin him to play techno as well as hardcore and he rocked !! when frankie venok playd at the last event at the park a couple of months bk he had it goin .... and thay loved it ,, yeah it was hard but went down well

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

i was at that nite aswell in manc it was the know fear nite so it wasnt a normal species calv's set was good i thought didnt see any arse holes chatin shit tho man , if i had i wouldnt of been happy like ,

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The set im on about is from a bit ago a few years.
The know fear nite was the one I played at aswell the crowd was cool that nite(the M-zone night)

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

i do remember when ribbz played a few years back and he cleared the room more or less as no one was realy interested in him , be sure tho it will grow on ppl their , i think its just if the right name plays it at them events all the die hard followers will take note and thay all seem to follow like lost sheep look at luke producer, he droped a few sets @ north and the events were bookin him to play techno as well as hardcore and he rocked !! when frankie venok playd at the last event at the park a couple of months bk he had it goin .... and thay loved it ,, yeah it was hard but went down well

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Ive heard the tape to that to he plays some top techno Im not sure Speices was ready for anything that funky the Im still not sure if it is now.Ribbs has been championing Techno on the hardcore/trance sceene for a long time but i know what you mean its like they are just getting on to it all of a sudden cause there are more and more techno people and followers coming out of the woodwork at these events and theres a cetain crowd that comes to life when the techno comes on then the trance or hardcore comes back on and they dissapear back in to their corners again.

Schranz is just a pointless bollox name really whats the point in making woo yeahh another name for something which is easiely called hard techno and in my opinion sounds 100 times better.

its hard techno

end of !!!

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Originally Posted by Mindful

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

i was at that nite aswell in manc it was the know fear nite so it wasnt a normal species calv's set was good i thought didnt see any arse holes chatin shit tho man , if i had i wouldnt of been happy like ,

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The set im on about is from a bit ago a few years.
The know fear nite was the one I played at aswell the crowd was cool that nite(the M-zone night)

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

i do remember when ribbz played a few years back and he cleared the room more or less as no one was realy interested in him , be sure tho it will grow on ppl their , i think its just if the right name plays it at them events all the die hard followers will take note and thay all seem to follow like lost sheep look at luke producer, he droped a few sets @ north and the events were bookin him to play techno as well as hardcore and he rocked !! when frankie venok playd at the last event at the park a couple of months bk he had it goin .... and thay loved it ,, yeah it was hard but went down well

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Ive heard the tape to that to he plays some top techno Im not sure Speices was ready for anything that funky the Im still not sure if it is now.Ribbs has been championing Techno on the hardcore/trance sceene for a long time but i know what you mean its like they are just getting on to it all of a sudden cause there are more and more techno people and followers coming out of the woodwork at these events and theres a cetain crowd that comes to life when the techno comes on then the trance or hardcore comes back on and they dissapear back in to their corners again.

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woo i remember the m-zone nite now .. haha was u b2b fair play ... i was smashed that nite i was sat at the back with oriel most of the nite its all a blur haha

In yer corner haha will miss the park top feel to it proper underground club perfect for techno.
Orial She likes her techno that girl.

yeah she has a good taste in music

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

yeah she has a good taste in music

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apart from that scouse house she listens to.... :lol:

thats true man , what wa sshe thinkin puting us lot throu , while being in that mad world ;) arr well 10 days till i move in me new gaff man so no cheese on their at the after partys hehe

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Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

thats true man , what wa sshe thinkin puting us lot throu , while being in that mad world ;) arr well 10 days till i move in me new gaff man so no cheese on their at the after partys hehe

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good lads i look forward to it nicholas.....any chance of any 800bpm gabba tho?? :lol: ;)

if u wont man , plenty of breaks/idm/speedcore/gabba ;) an techno

And plenty of 80's pop comming my way ;)

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Originally Posted by Obdurate

And plenty of 80's pop comming my way ;)

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dont forget the 70's man

http://www.schranz.basskilla.org/

check it...

do you think Liebing has a trademark,,for this word SCHRANZ? hehe :lol:
I like it hard, but don't like schranz.too distorted for me,and too furious without any ideas,. warm sound is gone..it's just thin sounding, anything what is distorted enough pass well there.. I hate it...
and also can't understand how someone can say, Anxious, OGI and Skoog is schranz.... :shock:

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Originally Posted by davethedrummer

it's just a new word for hard techno
generally with a bit of distortion in it , chris leibing coined the phrase and now everyone uses it.
load of old bollocks if you ask me

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:lol: init! if you ask me a lot of the so called schranz producers are either going to hardcore or to trancy, there are only a few labels i will play now, a good old solid hard techno track cant be beat,. anyways labels like construct thythym jerk etc been making this kinda music for years with a lot better production quality. ;) + i always new as hard techno with a diffrent edge to it,but still hard techno. you can call it wot you you like for promotion perposes ive done it myself but it will always remain hard techno wot ever you call it. if im beeing honest i went record shopping the other day and couldent beleive how many vynyl i heard with the same loops in on these shranz records, i see a lot of skull records have been ripped off, shame!!!!! i think i counted at least 5 tunes with a boris s loop not mentioning wot i heard them on but it pissed me off as i am a record buyer! these kids are gettin away with far to much on these fruity loops etc! its nuts!!!!!! wot you guys think. :eh:

haha skull tunes have been ripped off.... the other way around more like ;)

have to dis aggree there scot i no my techno and i can tell ya dude boris s production quality kicks the ass outa these kids, (take composure 12 for a kick off m8t) thats wot i call quality. + im not sure about the other way round dood either! im beeing completly honest, ive heard a lot a blaten ripping going on and it sounds crap! i do play some of the skull tracks as the production quality is far superior to sum of these wank tracks out there at the moment. im not going to mention any the labels coz i dont wanna public slangin match on ere! + is unproffesional to say so,but this problem is very much alive in the schranz scene as a whole!

yes of course m8t there is always going to be ripping off but these tracks ive heard are way to obvious man. ;)

however there are some quality schranz producers to, + i respect very much, but i could probably count them on 1 hand as apposed to the trash thats flying about. ;) they will learn in the end when no 1 is buying there stuff and its sitting on the shelf in shops adding to the missery of distributers + shop owners nightmares. ;)

schranz shmanz..... but sayin that i have one Boris S record that does kick ass, "weapons of evil" or something, but there was that big debate a while back about skull tunes rippin others work and i think its fair to say that in the Schranz game this goes on alot between all parties but is sometimes just overlooked.... i have a different view on production and come from the group of artists who like to actually write their tracks and i just find all that schranz stuff at the moment a bit to unpersonal and the easy option production wise

but there is a market for it obviously, i used to love hard techno but just think its at an extremely low point at the moment!

i might be wrong but in an Irish interview in ANORAK magazine ,when Chris Liebing played here..... he said that some of the new techno is "too" hard.

i love it all but i might assume he was directing that at the wittekind, amok, switchblade/ laker, chris noise flavours.

so in saying this, is all that tuff 150something bpm schranz???...personally i dont care whats what. but its still a weird statement by CL himself.

(sunil maybe u can confirm whether he said this???)

well stjohn:

Liebing doesn't really play that fast.
i mean like 160....

and there's this missunderstanding if you talk about playing hard.
'hard' and 'fast' are still 2 different things.

nothing can be too hard..

one might not like some style or producers or whatever, but you just cant deny anymore that there is a need for taking hard techno to the next level of brutality.. there is audience for that, there are djs that spin that and producers making it, some produce good things, some produce garbage, as in every genre..

saying only hard techno is good techno is limited, but also, why limit techno on, dunno, 145/150 bpms? where is the funk there, someone asks? why do you want funk in every track, maybe I want it to sound industrial..

I really believe there is room for everything. keep pushing the boundaries.

and yeah, I dont think schranz = hard techno, its just like subgenre, coz there is lots of hard techno nowhere near schranz..

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Originally Posted by Ritzi Lee

'hard' and 'fast' are still 2 different things.

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indeed

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Originally Posted by koma

saying only hard techno is good techno is limited, but also, why limit techno on, dunno, 145/150 bpms? where is the funk there, someone asks? why do you want funk in every track, maybe I want it to sound industrial..
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Techno produced on 120 BPM can still be hard,
doesn't always have to increase in speed.

tru enough!!! i was just wonderin if u could call this core-tek schranz?? ive never fullly understood what it is and what it isnt. i always thought schranz = Chris Liebing. but Chris Liebing = normal hard techno.....carry the 1 etc.

i remember CL used to produce tunes without big basslines in the early CLR releases.... stuff like "ping pong pineapple" and "stigmata" i think . for a while i thought this was schranz, but now he whacks in the dark basslines. schranz is whatever goes i s'pose. or is it?

sorry for the incoherence... when i said "tuff 150" i meant like Amok etc.....


stuff id usually call core-tek, only to myself tho, with my eardrums bleedin, and my eyes rollin

(in the good way!!!! :lol: ) :twisted: :evil:

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Originally Posted by stjohn

i remember CL used to produce tunes without big basslines in the early CLR releases.... stuff like "ping pong pineapple" and "stigmata" i think . for a while i thought this was schranz, but now he whacks in the dark basslines. schranz is whatever goes i s'pose. or is it?

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i believe those might be considered as early schranz.. hmmm

ping pong pineapple rmx by stanny franssen i.e. can be found on mega schranz compilation together with: monika kruse - latin lovers :roll: emmanuel top - mars (monika kruse rmx) :roll: bando - sesion :roll: thomas schumacher- supreme funk :roll: oliver lieb - traveller 1 :roll:

with tracklisting like that, no wonder most people areconfused witn names and genres.. :doh: