www.makeshiftrecordingstudio.com/SAW.mp3
Feedback much appreciated (18c)
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www.makeshiftrecordingstudio.com/SAW.mp3
Feedback much appreciated (18c)
Not bad, although tainted for me by the fact that SAW was a film far too dark and ****ed up to be done justice by techno.
Charlie Clousers soundtrack for the film just csan`t be beat. Pure electronic genius.
This tune could do with something hapening after the break as really, it doesn`t progress.
thank you for havin a listen, but how can anything be to dark for techno?
Anyway cheers. ;)
Cos techno isn`t dark. Well not conventional techno anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Kemix
this is wicked
nice 1 pete, really enjoyed makin this one. Was a bit sceptical about posting tracks here but am glad i did now.
cheers ;)
is this going on vinyl? I wannit!
needs much more of a bassline in there, there's certainly plenty of room for one at the moment sounds very locked groove'y, too loopy and needs more going on
production sound's pretty ok on it, but definately needs more going on
Sounds fine to me. I don't llike techno like this to be cluttered. If you're fast cueing up the next record you can make the most basic tune rock like no other. Definately a perfect tool for for some long mixing and chopping. Stuff like this takes on its own charachter in a mix.
he asked
sorry yeah, didn`t really reply properly.
Production wise this is ok.
Sounds a little muddy in the low mid, and overall comes across as a bit dry.
Sounds a little too digital if you get my meaning.
that main riff (the 2 note thing) is a little over done if you go back and look at acid techno releases over the last few years, and something a little more interesting could be done with that sound.
This is a pretty good DJ tool, but seems to lack polish, phatness and width.
I made this track intentionally without a bassline, as the main low end rumble comes from offbeat kick drum patterns etc. There is no locked groove'y in there at all as the track progresses and things drop. I appreciate your view though, but dont entirely agree. Everyone has an idea of how techno should sound and thats cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes without a face
oops sorry that was me, forgot to log in
i didnt say there was a locked groove in there, but it sounds far too shallow without more low end in there, favourably in the shape of a bassline... in the nicest possible way please dont go the route of some on here of posting tracks and then just disagreeing with the comments given, just take them on board and say thanks as it will save any unneccesary confusion, obviously we all have a different view of how techno sounds but that doesnt come into it, in the context of the production of this track it definately lacks and has a certain feeling of emptiness about it at the moment
its a good track, just could be better :clap: ;)
maybe pete, might think about putting it out on a b-side for GWR002. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidTrash
maybe pete, might think about putting it out on a b-side for GWR002. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidTrash
I am not saying this track is perfect, and i know there is room for improvement. From what i have read on here though there is alot of negativity in the form of feedback, as opposed to 'positive'. Again i will take your views onboard and will re-post it, put a bassline in it, and try to make it sound less empty. Any suggestions?Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes without a face
plenty of energy in this tune, cant really comment on sound as i've listened to it on shite speakers. Good to see people breaking out the dvd's!! I reckon it needs something to come in after the main break though, something that'll really grab you buy the throat. Liking this though! :clap:
:shock: ;)
sounds pretty good to me. as has been mentioned it's a little lacking in bass and i'm also not sure about the stabby riff, but it seems like a fairly solid track on the whole...
cool, i was gonna leave the mastering to lawrie to phatten up the bass etc. Think i will adjust that stabby riff though, as i thought it was pretty constant. Any suggestions for the riff??? More notes??? or less to make it a bit more minimal
cheers
I`d get as much done as possible before you send it too lawrie to master.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Kemix
The bass should be sorted before it reaches the vinyl cutting stage as they only make minor tweaks.
Maybe more notes, or something other than that rising 2 note riff that you here too often.
I`d double it up with another warmer sound, as this track over all sounds a bit too dry and soft studio-ey
As i said i dont want to add a bassline, just boost the bass freq at the mastering stage to add a nice punch to it. Cool will double up with another riff maybe, though i dont think it sounds soft studio-ey as most the kit i used to produce it was analog stuff.....i.e. outboard effects, and a virus c. Must be the mp3 quality you are hearing.
cheers though ;)
Could be the mp3. It may be that the sounds are over dry. Dunno. It just sounds a little "cardboard-ey". Hard to explain, but I guess it`s the lack of sinewaves.
hahah scott about time you started up loading tracks.
i like this track mate, will deffo work on da floor. good stuff man :clap:
ste
i do like this, some nice things going on, but i agree with dirty and eyes, its lacking a few things.
now i can see what your saying, this was how you wanted to make the tune, you could have added a bassline etc if you wanted to, but unfortunately, whats making this a normal bog standard, nothing special tune and not being a great track that people must go out and buy and play is the lack of bassline, the lack of some different riffs here and there, the lack of analogue fluctuating and breathing.
its not negative feedback, its positive, listen to what people are saying and use it to build on.
saw is a great film by the way :cool:
sinewaves? I did not want to put any sine waves into the track hense not adding a bassline. "cardboard-ey"? is there anything else that wrong with it? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
cheers man, i will take everything thats said about the track and move on, though i dont think the lack off bassline could stop the track selling. I have bought load of wicked tunes lately that dont have basslines, that are drum led tracks and these are the ones that do it for me. I agree about the riff thing, maybe a few different pattern switches here and there will help. I dont know what you mean by the lack of analogue fluctuating and breathing, as i did not want to over compress this track to create that effect overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan the acid man
nice, yep saw is a great film ;)
the anologue fluctuating and breathing was more for the synth, it sounds too digital overall, it could do with a few subtle filter movements to make it more anologue sounding
ah cool, i tend to use filter type automation/movement on riffs that contain more notes, as opposed to simple stabby riffs. The sound that is used is off a virus c synth, and like most of the samples on there they have alot of warmth and analogue feel to them i think. Will adjust this though to see the desired effect.,
cheers man
this is olid.
in regards to what eyes & bass say, i like trax like this to have space to let another track right over the top straight away..
the fact there is little bassline means when you mix a track with big bass & drop it, the impact will kill...
Good Work Kemix :clap: :clap: :clap:
if i was still playing vinyl & techno, i'd have 2 copies of this.
love the triplet breaks
cheers, that was where i was comin from with this track. I made it for the dj, where i find most tunes with basslines that stand out tend to fight over each other in the mix. :clap:
I really like this track, would go down well on the dancefloor!
Nice errie & dark, deffo a release for the future :clap:
Unless you use EQ when you mixQuote:
Originally Posted by Scott Kemix
Ok fair enough, no more production tips for you when you post.
Sorry
agreed with Steve, i apologise also for trying to help you out ;)
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
:roll:
i suppose its because we hate dj tools, ive never understood the meaning of them to be honest
I don`t agree with making life easy for DJ`s.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan the acid man
It`s easy enough as it is to mix 2 tunes of similar tempo together that go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM so they know where the beat is. So why make it easier?
Instead of making a good complete tune, why leave it up to them to make it out of other tunes?
I say kill the DJ`s and long live the musicians :twisted:
Erm, off topic I know :roll:
Calm down guys think you are takin it to heart, that other people have different opinions. I have took what you said into account and dont know what more you want me to say.
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
ach f**k of DB.. how many times can u trot this line out ? ? ?
so u dont like tools. dont mean we cant. some of us like to use 3 turntables & fx to blend minimil elements.. even if those minimil elements are brainless 'BOOM BOOM BOOM' as you put it..
this 'anti dj tool' s**t is gettin tired man...
Go away, we're going off topic now, what does this have to do with you anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Kemix
:oops:
oh
erm
sorry
:lol:
not taking it to heart at all, to be honest i dont care what you do to the track as its not mine but when u put it up for people to check, instead of trying to counter any seemingly negative comments with justifications for the comments i.e i made it without a bassline etc etc just say cool and thanks for listening... or better still explain ur intentions when u post say "this is a dj tool and therefore doesnt have such and such so all comments on the production side of things wud be apreciated still"
the best Dj tools ive found still have very noticable, effective basslines in them, be it a 1 bar or 2 bar loop, but still a very chunky, sizeable bassline in there, and to me your track doesnt sound much like a tool imo, it just sounds like a track thats lacking a bassline as the rest of the mix doesnt fill enough of the spectrum to compensate for this
right anyone for a brew always calms us down haha ;)
That your opinion, and thats fine. Got no prob's with that. ;)
pah, the words of a DJ (he says, in the same way you would say, nazi)Quote:
Originally Posted by perpetual
:cool:
? <------ insert smiley with poking out tongue with pint of Guiness that respects opinion even though it can piss on it from time tto time :lol:
kill the dj? So whom do you make your tracks for? :lol: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
musicians :roll:
j/k ;)
:lol:
i would hope he makes most of his tunes for himself
as we all should dan.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan the acid man
if your makin the music for other ppl, it may as well be boy band pop.
again, thats jus my opinion. ive always made music for me & no one else.
i was once offered a deal if i toned my work down & mafe it more accessible. i could have, but whats the point ?
i have also knocked back a deal cos the label was gonna hard house it up with remixes. i have no interest in that field of music, so i walked away.