What does techno represent to you?
To me it represents getting frustration out. Sometimes anger. It makes me smile.
Techno also makes me think about music in a much simpler way. A way where there is no bull shit. Just good beats and soundscapes.
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What does techno represent to you?
To me it represents getting frustration out. Sometimes anger. It makes me smile.
Techno also makes me think about music in a much simpler way. A way where there is no bull shit. Just good beats and soundscapes.
Nearly the exact same feeling, whenever I am down, techno is the only thing that can put me back up with a big smile!
To me it is simply life :) Fast, furious, no time to slow down :)
sometimes when i'm playing records at home
i imagine a crowd getting into it ( sad i know )
and that takes me away.
sometimes it's just the quality and ideas of the music
and the UNDERSTANDING that's gone into making these tracks
it's a great feeling when you connect with someone through music
it is utterly abstract but makes total sense all at the same time.
well that's my personal take on it.
Techno = Life ..
Fast, slow, hard, soft, happyness, dark...
In terms of crowd I would say I prefer smiles and euphoria above all things! :)
Z
DJ ZeMigL:
I just want to say that I have used that Techno = Life for so long and you are the first person I have seen right it and feel it in that way, quality stuff man!
Rock on the world of techno.
i would argue that it is instead:
music = life
Your heart beat, the Original 4/4 beat.....it keeps you alive and the rhythm is in your very being! yes, music/techno = life
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Originally Posted by BritishMurderBoy
that`s the case for me.
for me techno is the fusion of art and science, to create music that invokes some kind of reaction, you know some kind of feeling, good or bad. i think the techno scene is a modern day representation of tribalism, almost religious in many ways, if you know what i mean.
Check out the thread by THORIN on 14 April 2003 - my opinions of what techno is or should be is on that one. Also check out the "Juan Atkins/UR/Jeff Mills... Who's next?" thread.
Techno = life hmm maybe.
I think that techno is a form of music which in turn is a form of art. Art comes from within - not from overuse of samples? (Sorry, I had to slip that one in there).
Therefore Techno could be called an Urban Art Form?
Techno (like a lot of other music) does also help me get rid of my frustration...
real music is art:
therefore albums/singles which are timeless are real pieces of art: for me real pieces of art include:
jeff mills live an the liquid rooms:
decks EFX and 909 by richie hawtin:
the detroit music experiment:
Really? That's the recent one by Carl Craig and crew, right? That's something I wasn't too into actually although only heard it quickly. The new Planet E by him with the track he's done with Garnier deserves everyones attention, I normally can't stand Planet E or a lot of Detroit (And its attitudes) in general, this is a good record though..Quote:
Originally Posted by BritishMurderBoy
well i like jazz anyway and that is some of the best modern jazz fusion i have heard:
the second track called "think twice" oooooh makes me tingle its so good:
Yeah, Sunil, I felt the same after my first listen. It seemed a bit of an anti-climax. But now after a couple of listens I love it. It's a real grower, give it another try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
for me techno represents innovation, music with no restrictions, music that makes you move.
most importantly techno is music that brings people together no matter what race, religion or culture.
and in agreement with the previous posts techno is the most artistic form of music on the planet, absolutley no doubts about that in my opinion.
Oh really, please explain why Techno is the most artistic form of music on the planet?Quote:
Originally Posted by COL ECSTATIC
I THINK EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC IS MORE LIKE A PIECE OF ART
techno (music as a whole ( well the quality =P ) represents a personal form of tranquility and infinite movement (sense of relief).
And I do agree, experimental music is most definitely considered as another appreciated, artistic sound. Actually, I personally find it much more innovating :?
I think techno can have many differant meanings and that depend on both the the style and the listener. To me I think its combination or reflection of modern/urban culture and time merged into a more primitive ritualistic thing. I always seem to think about 100,000,000's or years ago where cave people beat on drums only to be merged into something thats fresh, the sound of technology. Many times have people said to me "that kind of music has no soul or expression" and I have never been able to hear it that way, i think its full of expression. Its the non techno people that dont allow themselves to hear the feeling in a more primitive sounding track. It definatly brings people together, and i think thats the magic behind music.
definatly the mixing of ancient/ tribalistic with futuristic elements bares a lot on the appeal...
On the subject of music electronic vs soul...
"...we have a soul even though it is mathematical..." .... by Kraftwerk
Z
:D :D :D.
sometimes i love it
sometimes i hate it
but it's my music of choice and i stick with it
:P :P
i say techno is the most artistic form of music on the planet, because for me techno represents innovation, which in return represents the form of art as a whole. techno is about pushing the envelope, and delving into places where no other music dares to go, electronic music has no boundries and for me techno holds a bigger representation of electronic music far more than any other form of electronic music, if you no what i mean!Quote:
Originally Posted by miasma man
if there are no limits, and it holds no boundries...THEN IT MUST BE TECHNO!!!!!
so long as it's going to that place with a booming 909 4/4 kick and a bongo loop??Quote:
Originally Posted by COL ECSTATIC
Hmmm I agree in a way, I disagree in others. I think thats down to it been underground, the undergrounds where all the new and origional ideas come from and sometimes I too hear things and think "fuk thats differant". As for it having no limits, I think the problem with a lot of artists these days are the beleifs that you need certain sounds and rules in tracks. I am getting a tad bored of hearing ride cymbals and un-affected bongo loops where you expect them to be and arangements that are realy predictable. I am no one to talk coz i have done it myself and still do (I see it as part of our own learning curve). There is no limits, no specific rules. More artists need to see it this way and dare to do new things. I dont think you need a non 4/4 track to do something that works, thats constructed and that sounds new or unique...Quote:
i say techno is the most artistic form of music on the planet, because for me techno represents innovation, which in return represents the form of art as a whole. techno is about pushing the envelope, and delving into places where no other music dares to go, electronic music has no boundries and for me techno holds a bigger representation of electronic music far more than any other form of electronic music, if you no what i mean!
if there are no limits, and it holds no boundries...THEN IT MUST BE TECHNO!!!!!
no not at all, and if you think that techno is just about that then your very wrong, your perception of techno seems to differ from that of reality, techno is a very versatile sound, of course there are different styles of techno and sometimes techno does rely on a similar ideas within a track, which yes it is dissapointing, but overall techno is about finding the sound you have never heard before, and keeping things fresh & exiciting. peace!Quote:
Originally Posted by crime
Erm.. yes... sorry I was being sarcastic... as I posted before in the Juan atkins who's next thread:
which leads me to the point of everything really different that can be done with techno has been done, and anything that's so out there and different the majority of people who are into techno won't accept that it's techno, so we have a conundrum... personally I don't care what the music's called so long as it's good..... and New and differentQuote:
The problem is the boundaries people put around themselves between what the like and what they don't like... People can come up with abstract ideas that really work, but it's only when people are open and willing to accept something different, that things will move forward...
Just out of interest, what exactly is this sound you've never heard before? What artists?Quote:
Originally Posted by COL ECSTATIC
I will say my mind is open to be pleasantly suprised, all submissions are welcome...Quote:
Originally Posted by crime
yep i gotta agree with what crime seems to be saying..
specifically though, i dont know what it is; it is everything. youve basically got stuff that goes boom-tiss and stuff that doesnt. Im perfectly happy keeping it that simple and within those guidelines its all techno to me.
whereas im not perfectly happy sitting here in a studio with no fans up to my balls in sweat.. :oops:
i find the majority of techno records, and artists are trying to create sounds that are not recognisible, sounds that havent been used before, im repeating myself again here, but techno is about innovation, and almost every techno artist is trying for a new sound, is there any point in me listing every techno artist?Quote:
Originally Posted by crime
Sorry, I don't hear anything new in the majority of techno these days.. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if you like banging trax with the 4/4 Kik, hat on the offbeat, clap on the second, bass voom in the off beat, fair enough, I just wouldn't say it's anything I've not heard before, and a lot of it is sounds I've heard before... Like I say, if it's doing it on the dancefloor, fair enough, but I don't hear that much innovation any more (Just an opinion mind)
I like a lot of the more abstract stuff, because the trax actually sound different to each other, I mean I've got nothing against people liking what they like, but I just don't see the attraction (Personally) in hearing one tune mixed into the next that sounds exactly the same as the last one...
i dont think techno is all about innovation at all - i dont see how it can be as its all so simaler. I think in reality only a very small part of it is about innovation. I cant like somthing just because it is innovative. I like things because purely they please my ears. i can obviously apreciate innovation though, but it seems a lot of the innovative stuff (though not all of course) just isnt actually any good; it might be different, might even be really well produced, but it just aint any good (imo)- and thats the problem, we are not running out of ideas - i have got plenty of ideas. Its the good ideas i havent got, we are just running out.
but i just say **** it. jeez, there is more to life than techno (sorry!)
Why not just forget about it and then hopefully the good ideas will come.
bit of a sidetrack here..when i was a kid i used to do loads of juggling, and i whenever i concentrated on catching the clubs i dropped em, but when i just let go and got on with it everything was fine and i ripped it up!
maybe we have to the same thing, just not worry about it so much eh?
Word! Sorry, I just can't help being a little bit cynical when people start saying things like "techno is sounds you've never heard before", it's an over used and often misunderstood Mills quote... Maybe it was relevent when he originally said it, but repeating it over and over again just seems a bit nonsensical.. I don't want to come across like some kind of smartarse, I just feel mindlessly repeating some jeff mills quote is a bit misguided (No offense intended Col)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfish
jim the juggler ****ING CLASS hahaha.
I stand somewhere in between Crime's view and Jim's ...
Mark I "drink" yer words.. and I have 2 say u raise very important issues.. in fact there is lots of the same out there.. again I would now go to jim and say .."I'll just get what moves me .. even if it isn't inovative..." How many producers do we know that doin't really have a sound of they're and just copy other's ideias but still manage 2 do a great job at it!?
it is very sad that people now have a harder time accepting new sounds.. I won't even go 4 the dificulty of accepting new "ways/ formats"...
BTW ..
"...when i was a kid i used to do loads of juggling, and i whenever i concentrated on catching the clubs i dropped em, but when i just let go and got on with it everything was fine and i ripped it up!
maybe we have to the same thing, just not worry about it so much eh?..."
That is a brillian view and very well put...
should I say.. the virtue stands in the middle...
Z
It's an idealistic quote but it is just Mills giving his vision of what techno is and should be, nothing wrong with repeating it from time to time, however there's too much techno that doesn't live up to his proclaimation so i guess it isn't always a fair statement. anyway blah blahQuote:
Originally Posted by crime
****in' loads of producers, as long as there's enough music out there that we all enjoy and want to play then it's cool. If your ears like it then you can't really argue with itQuote:
Originally Posted by DJ Ze MigL
Okie fair enougth , maybe I didn't explained well ..
I ment exactly what u said.. sure there r people doing the same thing over n over.. but if they still rock then :)
Z
I know, I was agreeing with you!Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Ze MigL
At the end of the day, I have no problem with people enjoying music, that's cool, have a few beers, jump around in front of a system and have a laugh with your mates, y'know, that's cool.. I suppose I just can't get with the Pseudo-intellectualisin' KnowhatImean?
eheheh "...Pseudo-intellectualisin' ..." U have absolutly no ideia how much that pisses me off ... especialy 'cause i get it all the time from the house fannatics over here... :(
I think time heals all wounds... things will eventually move, evolve, mutate.. we just have 2 keep spirit, face & have lots a fun mean while...
Z
i honestly belive that the majority of techno producers are trying to create a new sound and trying new ideas within their music.
i think that some of you guys are refering to the more aggressive side of techno, which does sadly SOMETIMES does use similar sounds that had previously been used in another track, although i am fan of the aggressive sound, and i still belive innovation is a key part of the production of aggressive techno.
yes, crime & ZM, ezactly; lets just hava laugh, enjoy it and let it evolve
Well in fairness Jeff Mills is the king of bringing pseudo intellectualism into techno so blame him!Quote:
Originally Posted by crime
Hi,
I need somewhere I can samples of each track of the Compound release featuring Spencer Elliot - First Visit, as I need to make up my mind if I should buy it online or not, hope someone can help.
just bloody buy it and be done with it!! hahahaha
yeh mate. buy it.
Done. I just got my hands on it :)
Didn't really get into the single side, but didn't mind the two track side.
Any of you guys heard the latest releases on traction?
Kobbe - USA Aggression (Traction)
Strategy - Aria (Traction)
Very tough stuff indeed I thought.
Backtracking a bit here but yeh I agree it is about having fun, if you can't do that what's the point......... :)