Early Hardstyle

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16-07-2003, 02:11 AM
DJ Corbzy

Early Hardstyle

Tunes like:

Gollum and Yanny - Shithead
S.O.D. - Stormtrooper

anyone like these? I think they are wikked, still play Stormtrooper now, hoovers.. :? ...but good hoovers! :D

Anyone else...?
16-07-2003, 06:54 PM
edk

yeah i just got the latest stormtropper on phantom trax ! no what you mean hoovers with style ! :D
16-07-2003, 07:02 PM
DJ Corbzy

the songs called stormtrooper mate by S.O.D. on Pulse....

i think your thinking of different people?
16-07-2003, 07:12 PM
edk

half asleep i guess :lol:
16-07-2003, 07:16 PM
DJ Corbzy

fair play man :wink:
16-07-2003, 07:41 PM
Carl

I used to have that mate ...... I like the B side best :mrgreen:

Your talking about hardstyle before it was labled hardstlyle right? hehe :lol:
16-07-2003, 07:43 PM
DJ Corbzy

sort of...
16-07-2003, 07:50 PM
Carl

:lol:
16-07-2003, 07:57 PM
Tobe Cypher23

Shadows and Lights by Gollum is another.

Shithead is quality, Mzone played it at the second Cypher.
16-07-2003, 08:00 PM
Carl

Trippy ~ I was just playing Shadows & Lights :shock:
16-07-2003, 08:00 PM
DJ Corbzy

Yeah Shadows and Lights is a corking tune!

:D
16-07-2003, 08:01 PM
Carl

on a tape might I add, my copys in Weymouth :cry: lol ...
16-07-2003, 08:03 PM
DJ Corbzy

It's at Jon's, he's been playing it out! :lol: :D
16-07-2003, 08:07 PM
Carl

I know! the cheeky bugger ! :lol: 8)
16-07-2003, 08:52 PM
edk

i am ****ed up ! the track i was thinking of wasnt even stormtroper it was numbskullz what a tripper which is a hardtrance tune and we was talking hardstyle !!! wheres my head at ! :lol:
16-07-2003, 09:58 PM
Paul Nisbet

Shadows and lights. Nice tune. Mite ave too pull it out for a spin.
17-07-2003, 11:39 AM
Hakka.

I prefer the "Neon something" mix of SOD - Storm Trooper... although I do like both sides.
17-07-2003, 11:47 AM
Addict

I wouldn't call these tunes Hard style at all, Stormtrooper is an all time classic Hard Trance tune!!!!
17-07-2003, 12:23 PM
DJ Corbzy

Yeah but the hoover element in it makes me think early hardstyle....
17-07-2003, 12:45 PM
Addict

:? No way! I'm suprised you would say that being someone who hates hardstyle. Why would you compare such a wicked hard trance tune to it?
17-07-2003, 12:59 PM
DJ Corbzy

It is a wicked tune, but it does sound hardstyley mate, I mean most of the early harder-style stuff was real good its when all these other labels came out and released the ****ing shit stuff!
17-07-2003, 01:06 PM
Hakka.

I would say this was was not hardstyle either... early hardstyle? maybe Anders & Klistchs (whatever it is!) - The Feeling or maybe Angel of Death, Sound Of Rock etc...
17-07-2003, 01:07 PM
Hakka.

or even Klinsch Tot!
17-07-2003, 01:11 PM
Addict

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakka

I would say this was was not hardstyle either... early hardstyle?

:? :?:
17-07-2003, 04:03 PM
Tobe Cypher23

I recon Warmduscher - Pille Palle /Palle Pille would count as early hardstyle. Very much gabba orientated similar to modern hardstyle..
17-07-2003, 07:38 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakka

I prefer the "Neon something" mix of SOD - Storm Trooper... although I do like both sides.

Neon bang :D
17-07-2003, 07:39 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobe Cypher23

I recon Warmduscher - Pille Palle /Palle Pille would count as early hardstyle. Very much gabba orientated similar to modern hardstyle..

You mean 10 kleine bassdrums?
17-07-2003, 09:59 PM
DJ Corbzy

yeah warmduscher are wikked! love 10 kleine bassdrums.

Neon bang is ok like, not as good as stormtrooper imo
18-07-2003, 09:36 AM
Tobe Cypher23

That's the one!!! :twisted:
18-07-2003, 10:31 AM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobe Cypher23

That's the one!!! :twisted:

:wink:
18-07-2003, 10:33 AM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addict

I wouldn't call these tunes Hard style at all, Stormtrooper is an all time classic Hard Trance tune!!!!

I remember when nothing was labled as 'hardstyle'.It was trance, be it uplifting or dark. :lol:
21-07-2003, 06:35 PM
Tobe Cypher23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addict

I wouldn't call these tunes Hard style at all, Stormtrooper is an all time classic Hard Trance tune!!!!

I remember when nothing was labled as 'hardstyle'.It was trance, be it uplifting or dark. :lol:

Those were the days 8)
21-07-2003, 09:19 PM
wenna

i think its just the difference in pitch that defines the two nowadays. i have heard nuff ppl call 'hardstyle' slowed down hardtrance.

i think i remember reading a post on germantrance saying that hardstyle is at the tempo (140ish) that the original hardtrance was produced at back in like 1992.
22-07-2003, 12:30 AM
DJ Corbzy

most trance is 140 wenna :wink:
22-07-2003, 07:48 AM
Addict

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addict

I wouldn't call these tunes Hard style at all, Stormtrooper is an all time classic Hard Trance tune!!!!

I remember when nothing was labled as 'hardstyle'.It was trance, be it uplifting or dark. :lol:

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
22-07-2003, 06:52 PM
Pots

Quote:

Originally Posted by wenna

i think its just the difference in pitch that defines the two nowadays. i have heard nuff ppl call 'hardstyle' slowed down hardtrance.

i think i remember reading a post on germantrance saying that hardstyle is at the tempo (140ish) that the original hardtrance was produced at back in like 1992.

Not at all.

Hardstyle has few if any 'trance' elements in it. Pitch doesnt really come into the equation imo, more the frequency (im talking 'how often', rather than 'ohms') of the FX & noises, and the style of percussion. lots of snares layed on top of the kicks in hardstyle - 'marching' style music i have heard it called :D
22-07-2003, 07:55 PM
wenna

thats why most german dj's tend to opt for the more "marching hardstyle".

sorry to have to disagree with u corbzy-but- in general hardtrance is faster than hardstyle. no doubt
23-07-2003, 01:10 AM
DJ Corbzy

well pretty much all trance is 140 wenna, so harstyle must be less
23-07-2003, 10:46 AM
wenna

yeah, i see what your sayin now man, it depends what pitch you play it on. i suppose.
23-07-2003, 05:46 PM
edk

yeah my mixer has bpm counter and most of the time i hit out hardstyle at 150bpm but i like to pitch it up, my technics only go to plus 8, i here yogi whats his face wouldnt play at venue if the decks dont go to plus 16, when people talk about bpms they r talking at 0% if i played hardstyle at 140 or less my granny would love it ! i dont think you can band a music gene by bpm's. hardtrance can b faster and slower than hardstyle depends at which speed it was written !
23-07-2003, 08:47 PM
DJCraig Ryan

Stormtrooper is a Class tune as is SOD "State Control" But theres no way it is Hardstyle at all!! Dont know where you have got that Corbzy?
Tech Trance all the way!

Klinisch Tot, Angel Of Death, 2nd Trip etc etc etc in that league, you know - all the Classic German Stuff what will never be beaten in Quality!!
23-07-2003, 11:22 PM
DJ Corbzy

it is early hardstyle if you think about it...listen to it, it was before the shite noises of hardstyle of today...
25-07-2003, 01:51 AM
log:one

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan

Klinisch Tot, Angel Of Death, 2nd Trip etc etc etc in that league, you know - all the Classic German Stuff what will never be beaten in Quality!!

thats a bit of a pessimistic view isnt it? and i wholeheartedly disagree, too, i reckon theyve been whupped in production terms by many people, shokk + jaywalker to name but 2. im reall amazed at the quality of jaywalkers recent stuff... any one else?
25-07-2003, 08:15 AM
Si the Sigh

Yes Log...and some of that EyeTrance stuff...Now thats PROPER knockabout boyo! :mrgreen:
27-07-2003, 03:44 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addict

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addict

I wouldn't call these tunes Hard style at all, Stormtrooper is an all time classic Hard Trance tune!!!!

I remember when nothing was labled as 'hardstyle'.It was trance, be it uplifting or dark. :lol:

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

:wink:
27-07-2003, 03:45 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by log:one

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan

Klinisch Tot, Angel Of Death, 2nd Trip etc etc etc in that league, you know - all the Classic German Stuff what will never be beaten in Quality!!

thats a bit of a pessimistic view isnt it? and i wholeheartedly disagree, too, i reckon theyve been whupped in production terms by many people, shokk + jaywalker to name but 2. im reall amazed at the quality of jaywalkers recent stuff... any one else?

Yeah mate Jay Walkers production is top notch.
29-07-2003, 10:11 PM
DJCraig Ryan

Quote:

Originally Posted by log:one

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan

Klinisch Tot, Angel Of Death, 2nd Trip etc etc etc in that league, you know - all the Classic German Stuff what will never be beaten in Quality!!

thats a bit of a pessimistic view isnt it? and i wholeheartedly disagree, too, i reckon theyve been whupped in production terms by many people, shokk + jaywalker to name but 2. im reall amazed at the quality of jaywalkers recent stuff... any one else?

For me the 2nd Trip and Angel Of Death havn't been beaten...personal preference mate.
And i was relating Stormtrooper to the times of those tunes like Acid Headcracker aswell, when the Germans were releasing consistanly top class stuff
20-08-2003, 10:58 AM
Sincs

Personally I play Hardstyle starting at 150bpm and then notch it up to around 155 or depending on how evil I am feeling, up to 160.

When i play Hard trance, I end on 150/152 ish.

I am a newbie (ish.. been playing it for about 4 months), and was introduced to it by Uberdrúck tunes.
20-08-2003, 09:33 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan

Quote:

Originally Posted by log:one

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan

Klinisch Tot, Angel Of Death, 2nd Trip etc etc etc in that league, you know - all the Classic German Stuff what will never be beaten in Quality!!

thats a bit of a pessimistic view isnt it? and i wholeheartedly disagree, too, i reckon theyve been whupped in production terms by many people, shokk + jaywalker to name but 2. im reall amazed at the quality of jaywalkers recent stuff... any one else?

For me the 2nd Trip and Angel Of Death havn't been beaten...personal preference mate.
And i was relating Stormtrooper to the times of those tunes like Acid Headcracker aswell, when the Germans were releasing consistanly top class stuff

You like ya tracid traxxx then :P

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