I FEEL THAT SCOT PROJECT IS A SUPERB PRODUCER AND DJ,BUT SOME OF YOU SEEM VERY NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, WHY IS THIS?
I'M SAYING THIS IN A FRIENDLY WAY PEOPLE!!
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I FEEL THAT SCOT PROJECT IS A SUPERB PRODUCER AND DJ,BUT SOME OF YOU SEEM VERY NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM, WHY IS THIS?
I'M SAYING THIS IN A FRIENDLY WAY PEOPLE!!
he's a ****ing wicked producer full stop!
but his work is too scot project now, he's ragged his sound and needs to make some changes, im criticising in a constructive way, because i wont continuew to buy his work if he keeps to his formula, it worked well a few years back but its ragged now!
peace
And yet with tunes like "Rock" wich i must say i really like, people complain because its different and not what you expect from Scot Project.
imo I think hard trance has peaked a little while ago now, and its going to be very hard to get a new sound that will apeal to all hardtrance listeners.
Maybe we'll see a bit more of a range in styles within the boundrys of hardtrance.
Personally I'd like to see a lot more techno bassed tunes with synthy riffs...
I have a negative attitude towards Scot Project because he has chosen to take the commercial path and sold himself to the commercial clubs. Whilst doing so, all his focus on producing seems to have been lost and the result is lazy and poor productions. On top of that, the crowd he nows play to are the ones he seems to aim his productions at now (what on earth is that b-side to Visions all about?).
He really isn't that good a dj but he is an extremely talented producer, and he probably could churn out many more masterpieces if he toned down the dj'ing for a bit.
So because hes become famous and is mannaging to make a living out of DJing and Producing thats bad?
I think people get to worked up about the whole difference between Underground/Comercial Scene.
I think the only real Underground is @ Free Partys... i mean hardtrance nights at Clubs with Huge sound systems, amzing lighting effects and lazers... is that really Underground?
mate i think its because he set himself such a high standard...
arome - hands up, city 2 city and R,S. Were all very similer... lazy tunes imo. Production was still class, but just the same idea in the tracks.
Visions is a tune imo... and deffo a step in which i think he will show everybody how it is done again, as really i dont think many peeps have the talent he has.
:shock: Arome - Hand up is an amazing tune!!!
At the end of the day tho, its all down to personal preferance innit :)
Hands up pisses all over Visions left right and centre imo ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
For once Carl.........I AGREE! :D
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What are you on about darling, you usualy agree with me musicaly :roll:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :twisted:
Just not on the general forum when we have our hand bags at 10 paces episodes :lol:
he's in the US pearcey! :wink:
Imo it doesnt.... hands up is cheesier. i like both. but visions is better, not as cheesy, better production, builds the euphoria much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl
Faiplay man, whatever floats ya boat innit, but for me, hands up has that bangin edge that visions doesn't.The riff is amazing, and that vocal so fitting :shock:
No, that's not what I mean but I can see how I got misconstrued. Every producer has a chance to make a go of it when they get a big tune. Offers flood in from all the clubs that want to exploit their success, who also don't care for the music i.e Tidy, Godskitchen, etc. It's easy to see that companies like that are in it for the money first and the music second. Somebody who is in it strictly for the music would see through these offers, like Uberdruck did. I'm not jealous or bitter of Scot's 'success', believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan.T.
I've told this story before, but i'll tell it again. Scot played one of his first sets in this country at a local club called The Candy Store. A small capacity club at the best, but there was an ok turnout. I had the chance to talk with him before he played his set, and he was a genuinely nice person who seemed to not care about the size of the crowd. An awesome night, believe me, his set was really good, and he even stayed on after drinking with us.
After that occasion, he got taken in by the big name clubs, and played lots of the commercial clubs. Still ok, because this was the time he was churning out Ding a Ling and Hands Up. Then he returned to the Candy Store to play another set. Same size crowd near enough, but he was not happy. He had changed, seeming only to care about how many people were there, forever maoning. His set was awful, 'cause he seemed not to care.
In Germany at the time, D (or S as it is now known) was rejected as a single because Overdose thought it not good enough. His productions were going downhill because he had become so taken in with impressing the Gatecrasher/Tidy/Godskitchen crowd (who don't care for him anyway). This was his wake-up call in my opinion. He should have concentrated on his production, as this was what got him his fame anyhow, I don't think he ever would have found fame as just a DJ.
He didn't, and while you may beg to differ, his production hasn't improved since in my opinion. Is he too far down commercial street now to care? Who knows...
I agree with you voorhees 100%. He sees pound signs m8
VORHEEZ.
THATS A GOOD SPEACH M8.
YOUR DEFO TALKING SENSE BUD.
Sorry to disagree with something in my first post, but, I disagree :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Voorheez
I have a had a couple of good chats with him and believe me,
he doesn't just see $ signs, he told me he genuinly finds producing VERY hard,
as a producer myself, I know how hard it is to create new sounds/structures/ideas, the only way really is to innovate on someone elses ideas...
After all, every idea is inspired from somewhere.
Plus you have to take in to account, many people 'copy' his tricks which in turn, makes them less surprising or effective.
There's only so many things you can do with a 4/4 kick, but he managed to take it to a new level,
just look at 'O', the triplet kicks and the tripled bass was completely new.
As is his new trick in Visions where he carries the drop on for another bar after the break.
A producer of his caliber deserves a touch more respect, he is a legend.
The guy's one hell of a J.D drinker too!!!
DbD 03
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Sorry man. Yeah all i can say is when I did an interview with him for Wax, he seemed a totally friendly guy - really into his music and someone who obviously works very bloody hard.
I just feel that he was one of hard trance's biggest innovators and as such, you expect him to keep on breaking ground. i'm afraid i don't think he has recently. many of his productions are so amazingly produced but the sequences are too similar much of the time. you know a scot project tune a mile off, which is great, but i need to be surprised and excited when hearing a new record and scot project doesn't surprise and excite me the way he used to.
that doesn't mean you should write him off though. i check out everything he does and always give it chance. but by the 2nd minute it's like i've heard the whole tune already.
Well said that man... :)
like previously mentioned, his tracks follow the same route every time, and the cheesy pad breakdowns have become a little tiring on the ears for me, but to his credit he has turned out some exellent hard trance records in the past.
but the fact that he sees the "pound signs" hardly suprises me, in fact it seems to becoming a trend with many european producers which is very dissapointing.
when the uk dance press seems to catch wind of european trance artists, and they begin to secure gigs here, or sell bucket loads of records here, ive noticed that their productions suffer, they quickly lick the arses of the uk mainstream dj's, clubs, and magazines, yet the mainstream treat these artists as fashion, and quickly dispense of them when something better comes along, and us in the underground see fu*k all of these artists that we have supported for so long. the only european label that i can think of where production hasnt suffered is bonzai, but on the downside they still have too much respect for the uk mainstream shit. :?
scot p is down the pan... :(
reverb has given it up.... :shock: :cry:
we just have to rest on kramer, menzi, jay walker to deliver the goods and lead the trance scene forward.
come on guys :wink:
no man, no
we just have to rely on the new bread!
but sure kramer and pogadl are certainly part of that or seem to be.
it's all about the NOW. i don't care about the past!!!!
love reverb, love scot p - but let's look forward and stop moaning!!! please god!!!
there's gonna be a new sound.. it's up to us to find it.
guys scot project is far from dead in my eyes, yes it is a stale sound he is churing out just now (altough i am hammerin visions) i think he is the one who maybe is still gonna surprise us... production wise the guy is a legend, is gigs have started slowin down a bit, and he is workin on an album and tunes which "uberdruck" said were really good.
Same goes for shokk and flutlicht, they have been churning out the same old stuff for over a year and a half now, u can spot one of there tunes a mile away... its back too the drawin board for these guys, to see if they can come back with a sound which is gonna impress us (which really they have too, as we are spinnin there tunes, and we are fussy gits?).
While they are doin this everyone has too stop bein hung up on the likes of scot proj, shokk etc as there are another load of hard trance producers out there who deserve our attention. Its all coming from italy for me.
Max savietto is rockin my boat just now....
Jay walker etc is all very good, But i think they are maybe populer because they have adopted a foriegn sound? Event horizon sounds very scot project esq?
I wouldnt worry one bit, as i thought the hard trance has been quite strong of late, with a lot of quality stuff gettin pumped out of italy?
and into it m8 :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
I'm looking at a lot more techno now because of the lack of decent trance comin out, I'm also buying a lot of older trance too...
Yeah Tankis and Savietto are good, there style changes in every tune...
why doesnt everyone stop worrying about what everyones gonna be like in the future and just enjoy whats happening at the present.Yeah Scott P might get bad or good in the future but hey if it happens it happens.
Lets just enjoy whats happening now :wink:
what is happening now..? :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by djjaym
theres plenty good stuff out there mate, more so than there has been in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by djcorbzy
Wat is wrong wi the trance scene, nowt. imo.
Beppi berilliQuote:
Originally Posted by djcorbzy
jay walker
motorosi (imo)
max savietto
vespa and spoke
FORCE 9!!!