grrrrr vestax pdx d3s vs technics

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04-03-2008, 02:27 PM
Jay Pace

grrrrr vestax pdx d3s vs technics

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I owned technics. They were ok, "my first proper decks". The pitch on one of them went after a few years, I had it replaced. The tone arms were always a little wonky. The leads hardwired into the deck were shite, and I had to have them replaced as well.

I eventually sold them on for what I bought them for.

And bought a pair of these:
http://www.djsound.ru/dj/filebox/1316/pdx_d3s_190.jpg

Any they whupped technics. The pitch was infinitely better, the tone arm vastly improved, better torque, tracking, better pitch range and a digital jogstick to avoid the need to push the platter. Tiny little adjustments in pitch can be made with a joystick.

Beautiful decks, and I love them.

And for some reason they have no resale value at all. Whereas the technics I bought over ten years ago for £250 are still selling second hand for £250.

So they're going into storage for the next three years to gather dust, because I'm not selling them for £50 each - which seems to be all they're worth.

Buyer beware - your kit will lose all its value if its not hero branded for tech-fetishists who put brand before quality.

Grrr.

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04-03-2008, 03:03 PM
SlimboyPhatt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

[rant]

I owned technics. They were ok, "my first proper decks". The pitch on one of them went after a few years, I had it replaced. The tone arms were always a little wonky. The leads hardwired into the deck were shite, and I had to have them replaced as well.

I eventually sold them on for what I bought them for.

And bought a pair of these:
http://www.djsound.ru/dj/filebox/1316/pdx_d3s_190.jpg

Any they whupped technics. The pitch was infinitely better, the tone arm vastly improved, better torque, tracking, better pitch range and a digital jogstick to avoid the need to push the platter. Tiny little adjustments in pitch can be made with a joystick.

Beautiful decks, and I love them.

And for some reason they have no resale value at all. Whereas the technics I bought over ten years ago for £250 are still selling second hand for £250.

So they're going into storage for the next three years to gather dust, because I'm not selling them for £50 each - which seems to be all they're worth.

Buyer beware - your kit will lose all its value if its not hero branded for tech-fetishists who put brand before quality.

Grrr.

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Dont sell em. You'll probably want to mix vinyl again at some point. Why use anything but the best brand of decks???

Vestax forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I have pdx-2000's)
04-03-2008, 03:13 PM
RDR

Getting them repaired is horrible though...
04-03-2008, 04:03 PM
Jay Pace

I had a tonearm replaced, after a book fell on it and broke it. Cost £125.
Stung, but no real complaints.

I'm pretty confidant when I dust them off after 3 years in storage they will still shit on 95% of decks on the market.

Beats me why they aren't worth anything though. They got discontinued, but are still a cracking piece of kit.
04-03-2008, 06:31 PM
RDR

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Originally Posted by Jay Pace

I had a tonearm replaced, after a book fell on it and broke it. Cost £125.
Stung, but no real complaints.

I'm pretty confidant when I dust them off after 3 years in storage they will still shit on 95% of decks on the market.

Beats me why they aren't worth anything though. They got discontinued, but are still a cracking piece of kit.

Because of all the reasons you outlined.

and 125 for a tone arm...

there you go.
04-03-2008, 06:45 PM
Jay Pace

Technics tonearm costs £70, add £50 for someone to install it and your looking at the same price.

Some brands just age well I suppose.
04-03-2008, 10:44 PM
RDR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Technics tonearm costs £70, add £50 for someone to install it and your looking at the same price.

Some brands just age well I suppose.

no point in paying anyone to install it... not for me anyhoo.. piece of piss. you can get otne arms cheaper than that as well.
05-03-2008, 03:48 PM
Siege

ive had enough of technics v vestax?
05-03-2008, 04:52 PM
TechMouse

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Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Beats me why they aren't worth anything though.

The resale value is just a reflection of market demand.

Clubs don't routinely install Vestax, so the demand isn't as high as Technics.

I don't know an audio device that keeps its value quite as well as a Technics record deck. It's remarkable.

If you're looking for a babysitter, I keep meaning to learn how to mix on 3 decks.

I'll have to ask the Mrs though - recall our previous discussion on storage space: I'm probably on thin ice already, insisting on a corner of the living room for decks and records.
05-03-2008, 07:23 PM
Jay Pace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siege

ive had enough of technics v vestax?

Fair enough, but this is more about resale value of some gear being massively higher than others.

Just suprised me, thats all.
06-03-2008, 02:26 AM
Siege

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Fair enough, but this is more about resale value of some gear being massively higher than others.

Just suprised me, thats all.

fairdoos
06-03-2008, 08:52 PM
Microdot

the vestax turntables shit all over technics.
much better decks on every level.
07-03-2008, 07:06 AM
RDR

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Originally Posted by Microdot

the vestax turntables shit all over technics.
much better decks on every level.

Never used these ones but i liked the PDX3's from years ago and they were really reliable, HATED the PDX2000, horrible plasticy things that were great for scratching but broke contstantly and had a crossfader so light that you could blow on it to move it (not good)
07-03-2008, 11:26 AM
TechMouse

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Originally Posted by Microdot

the vestax turntables shit all over technics.
much better decks on every level.

Betamax was technically superior to VHS.
07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
Microdot

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

Betamax was technically superior to VHS.

no doubt.
08-03-2008, 08:01 AM
RDR

Sony still went with the format of betamax, it became digibeta and was widley used in the TV and Video edit industry for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacam

Check that link, Sony lost the consumer end battle but where was most of the recorded content recorded to??? Digibeta / Betcam SP

Kinda makes a mockery of the whole thing :lol:
08-03-2008, 04:02 PM
Microdot

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDR

Sony still went with the format of betamax, it became digibeta and was widley used in the TV and Video edit industry for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacam

Check that link, Sony lost the consumer end battle but where was most of the recorded content recorded to??? Digibeta / Betcam SP

Kinda makes a mockery of the whole thing :lol:

betamax video tapes are awesome for recording audio onto.
08-03-2008, 05:32 PM
TechMouse

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Originally Posted by Microdot

betamax video tapes are awesome for recording audio onto.

How does one go about that, Jon?
09-03-2008, 01:22 PM
RDR

Via their audio input.

seriously though, if memory serves a lot of the later models have DIN style inputs which means you can use a DIN to L/R audio and Composite Video
11-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Microdot

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

How does one go about that, Jon?

as RDR says, using din leads is the best way.
11-03-2008, 03:40 PM
RDR

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Originally Posted by Microdot

as RDR says, using din leads is the best way.

My word i remembered something LOL!
11-03-2008, 05:07 PM
TechMouse

Ah, interesting.

So you only use the audio bit of the tape then?
11-03-2008, 07:13 PM
RDR

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Originally Posted by TechMouse

Ah, interesting.

So you only use the audio bit of the tape then?

Pass, i do know people who used it for compressing drums, by recording at a slow speed and saturating the tape then speeding up and recording back you get some VERY tight sounding breaks. Fat as FK