think its about time we had a serious discussion about this "newish" genre...
I know its been around a while and I will put my views across in a bit. But I wanted to know what you lot thought of it?
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think its about time we had a serious discussion about this "newish" genre...
I know its been around a while and I will put my views across in a bit. But I wanted to know what you lot thought of it?
i can honestly say i havent heard of this, what does the genre encompass?
oh its in the hardstyle forum :doh: bouncy hardstyle?
funnily enough your almost right. The first releases of this sort of style came out on STIK (Italy) its that sort of "roundish" beat (that is crazy Hakka talk, but I it is true to how I can perceive it!) and its more hardcoreish in sound but hardstyle in layout and speed.
Its purely for the darker and eviler sort of sound... very rough.... can't see much uplifting comming in jump style!
its the track that jumps hardstyle to hardcore...
http://www.hardnoiser.nl/jumpstyle.mp3
here is a set showing what I mean...
is it called 'jump' for 'jump on the next bandwagon' - ive got hardstlye sets going back about 6 months with hardcore in them... sheesh. :roll:
haha
perhaps I've completely missed the point then... but I thought there was this newish "sub" genre which is basically slowed down hardcore?
There's a fair few tracks I can give examples of...
well you seem the best person to tell us all bout then eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by djstride
Isn't it very big distorded kickdrums without no complimenting basslines. Simple riffs that flow through the track from start to finish, little percussian, lots of samples hip hop style. The main focal point is the kickdrum.
These sorts of tunes?
Derb - D.F.C.
T.Tronik - Summer Acid
Jack & The Ripper - Whores In Da House
Dj Frank - Story (Jump Mix)
I'm happy to be told I'm wrong, but could you explain a bit more mate instead of a "sheesh" which does nothing?
that set sounds EXACTLY like hardstyle to me - bit cheesy too with all them vocals, but just seems like good ole hardstyle (oQuote:
Originally Posted by Hakka2
the DERB track you listed sounds more like the Belgian "jump style" stuff, which is nothing like hardstyle, i wouldnt even compare the two!
eg:
Lobotomy Inc. vs. Dinamik - Jump'in
Ruthless & Vorwerk - Power To Da Beats
Belgian jump style is wrong!
:nono:
Chaz.
just sounds like hardstyle cos really there is many forms of hardstyle some tunes harder than others
oh well... end of discussion then!
It all came about this as some dutch people from the hardstyle room in Soulseek were telling me about it, just seems strange that they would make up such an elabrorate lie. Thing is though all the music suggested is different from typical hardstyle...
oh well never mind then.
quite badly the last 5 mins was only the track on here that was of the thing I was trying to describe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakka2
Are you feeling ok Mark? :lol:
there is a new style genre coming out of hardstyle called jump style
its more like simpler sounds less melody but the bassline is very bouncy
one of the top hardstyle record shops have got some good examples
http://www.sector-1.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id=2159
to be hounest im not that impressed with it if its gonna be the newstyle
I gurantee we will have heard all this "new style" has to offer countless times before....its just a floodgate for 1001 "Essential Jump Style" compilations to be perfectly honest and anyone who cant see that just has to look back at hard house, nu nrg, hardbag, hand bag, hard nrg, hi nrg blah blah blah
I kind of like it :oops:
yeah I know, I just wanted to "discuss" it.Quote:
Originally Posted by elyzium
few! so I'm not going mad!Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidPhase
I just wanted to discuss this with you guys, assuming your all open minded individuals who would contribute your thoughts about it in a constructive manner!
Well those are my thoughts and I've put them accross
no no fairplay... but I was more interested in talking about the music itself as opposed to "politics" of music.Quote:
Originally Posted by elyzium
I appreciate what your saying mate, I think its not that good music and yea its bit of a commercial blag when you think of how it will be promoted.
But the actual "sound" that this "jump style" is representing I was curious to hearing peoples thoughts on, setting aside whether it should or should not be seperated from hardstyle or even be allowed to have its own name as "jump style".
From what I've heard its VERY basic... and I've not always been keen on the releases on STIK which have these beats as the track sounds too slow in my opinion.
I find it to be quite light and cheesy in comparison to hardstyle, perhaps mainly because the emphasis is more on the kick than the bass, but also because of the cheesier vocals. I wouldn't really associate it with hardcore.
I don't like it personally. A lot of it sounds like something you'd hear on a Clubland CD.
it IS totally different to hardstyle, which is why i also listed them tracks at the end of my post! therefore, genre name required imo, so "jumpstyle" can stay.
it's not like how the difference between harder hard trance and hardstyle was, as i said, you cant really compare hardstyle and jumpstyle, like you could hard trance & hardstyle....or even that jumpstyle takes elements from hardcore even (cos i dont think it does personly.)
the stuff i have listened to so far bores the hell outta me!
Yeah I agree totally Chaz. Definitely would not relate Jump to Hardstyle. Jump would exist even if hardstyle never had.