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Im sorry but I think we need a big discussion on HARDSTYLE, in my opinion hardstyle over the past 3 months has been very poor. Im so fed up with the same kicks the same high pitch stabs and the lack of effort gone into some tracks. When I play out im playing alot of old hardstyle and new hard techno now, im guttted to think hardstyle is on its way out but with all these tunes coming out that are crap at the moment its getting such a bad reputation. Big labels such as dance pollution and blutonium are even average now. I think its over for this genre, what do the BOA lads and lasses think. and as for suntec!! whats that all about!!

I agree wiv you that quality hardstyle is quite rare at the moment and the amount of shite being released is unbelievable :doh: But hope your wrong about this being it 4 the genre :shock:

what?

tnt - frequency
tuneboy - sexbuster
dj duro - cocaine mf??


nah bu.....nothing really new...but feckin awesome.....

could name loads...........I'm still happy

hardstyle wont die.
but hopefully all the producers that jumped on the bandwagon will jump off again soon and leave hardstyle to the people who know how to keep a genre fresh.

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Originally Posted by TechnoRaver

hardstyle wont die.
but hopefully all the producers that jumped on the bandwagon will jump off again soon and leave hardstyle to the people who know how to keep a genre fresh.

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they'll all jump on the hardcore techno bandwagon kris... :lol:

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Originally Posted by Andy__C

what?

tnt - frequency
tuneboy - sexbuster
dj duro - cocaine mf??


nah bu.....nothing really new...but feckin awesome.....

could name loads...........I'm still happy

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Havent heard the tuneboy one but the other two are class :clap:

I wasnt saying there isnt ANY good tuneage out there but in comparison to the volume of shite being released its a tiny minority :doh:

Cally & Juice - All you Bastards is a great show of shit hardstyle at the minute. :dontevengothere:

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Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

Cally & Juice - All you Bastards is a great show of shit hardstyle at the minute. :dontevengothere:

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aint heard that :eh:

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Cally & Juice - All you Bastards is a great show of shit hardstyle at the minute. :dontevengothere:

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aint heard that :eh:

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Don't bother.

yeah Hardstyle just needs a kick up the arse at the moment.
there is still good stuff coming out, its just that there is that much shite coming out, its made them harder to find.

dont worry about it. use this dull patch to ur advantage and get caning some of the older corkers u forgot u had!!
or buy some older stuff u missed when it came out!

Hardstyle WILL Survive!!!

cally and juice...... grrrrrr

Or u can always try not playing just hardstyle and take the oppertunity to experiment playin with other styles.... tech, hard trance, trance, free form....


watever.

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Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet

Or u can always try not playing just hardstyle and take the oppertunity to experiment playin with other styles.... tech, hard trance, trance, free form....


watever.

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yeh totally right mate dont just get stuck mixin one type of music experiment :clap:

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Originally Posted by TechnoRaver

hardstyle wont die.
but hopefully all the producers that jumped on the bandwagon will jump off again soon and leave hardstyle to the people who know how to keep a genre fresh.

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they'll all jump on the hardcore techno bandwagon kris... :lol:

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yeh that would **** me right off. :twisted:
but really theres not that much money to be made from it compared to hardstyle etc so the bandwagon jumpers tend to leave it alone, leaving only the producers that really love it which is cool.

IM LOVIN THE OLD HARDSTYLE FROM LAST YEAR STILL
E.G-

LARS TINDY
MIDI J
DHHD
DEEPACK
DJ DURO
J.T.S

ETC

A LOT OF STUFF COMING OUT AT THE MO IS SOOOO POOR QUALITY STARTING TO PISS ME OFF LOOKIN FOR DECENT STUFF SO I STICK TO WHAT I KNOW I CAN TRUST I.E. QDANCE ETC (MOST OF THE DUTCH N SOME ITALIAN LABELS)

BUT WHAT REALLY GETS ON MY TITS IS THE SHITE SUNTEC IS BRINGIN OUT !!! :twisted: I MEAN CUMMON WHATS ALL THAT ABOUT?

THEY SHOULD BRING THE OLD STYLE BACK!

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Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet

Or u can always try not playing just hardstyle and take the oppertunity to experiment playin with other styles.... tech, hard trance, trance, free form....


watever.

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true, but u canny buy all these styles of music 2 experiment with, its too expensive... :evil: :doh:

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Originally Posted by DJ Pearcey

Im sorry but I think we need a big discussion on HARDSTYLE, in my opinion hardstyle over the past 3 months has been very poor. Im so fed up with the same kicks the same high pitch stabs and the lack of effort gone into some tracks. When I play out im playing alot of old hardstyle and new hard techno now, im guttted to think hardstyle is on its way out but with all these tunes coming out that are crap at the moment its getting such a bad reputation. Big labels such as dance pollution and blutonium are even average now. I think its over for this genre, what do the BOA lads and lasses think. and as for suntec!! whats that all about!!

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Mate, i noticed this 6+ Months ago.
It's just a case of keep searching and searching for the quality. I'm getting into the more "Industrial" side of Hardstyle. Stuff like "Lorenzo De Preti's" sound. This is the way it needs to go, but it's still very early days for this sound as the majority of other Artists seem quite happy in releasing the same sounds and Formula. I just keep looking out for it.

The difference though, it just makes me laugh. You can listen to one Dark, twisted, Industrial, Gabba-Influenced monster, which makes you think 'This is the shit,'
But then you can to listen to one of the more typical Hardstyle releases of today, and it just makes me laugh, i think to myself, can't these artists see the way forward for the scene and most importantly the diffence in quality?

Fair nuff thats your opinion m8 but industrial sounding isnt necesarily the direction it NEEDS to take, its just wot ur likin at the mo

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Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu

Fair nuff thats your opinion m8 but industrial sounding isnt necesarily the direction it NEEDS to take, its just wot ur likin at the mo

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agreed yoshi!

personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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You could hear 2 different dj's play wot they both called 'hardstyle' but still hear 2 completely different sets :cool:

I HEAR WHAT YOUR SAYING MATE BUT THERE ARE LOADS OF LABELS BRINGING OUT SOME WICKED TUNES AT THE MOMENT. TRY ACTIVA,FUSION,ANTHEM,WICKED AND FETTE BASE.

Im finding that all the good hardstyle at the moment is actually hard trance, with a hardstyle influence and is being categorized as hardstyle.

My opinion anyway.

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Originally Posted by K Front

Im finding that all the good hardstyle at the moment is actually hard trance, with a hardstyle influence and is being categorized as hardstyle.

My opinion anyway.

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Definitely true about some of it m8 :cool:

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Originally Posted by K Front

Im finding that all the good hardstyle at the moment is actually hard trance, with a hardstyle influence and is being categorized as hardstyle.

My opinion anyway.

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Defo Jase.

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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OK, flair play. But in my opinion the more Gabba/Industrial influenced Hardstyle sounds alot classier and well more produced.
Big difference to the majority of the cheesy stuff.

Just my opinion though, and i also agree with you Yoshi about 2 different DJ's playoing Hardstyle but sounding different. Just comes down to individual taste really.

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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OK, flair play. But in my opinion the more Gabba/Industrial influenced Hardstyle sounds alot classier and well more produced.
Big difference to the majority of the cheesy stuff.

Just my opinion though, and i also agree with you Yoshi about 2 different DJ's playoing Hardstyle but sounding different. Just comes down to individual taste really.

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I do like some of the dark & industrial stuff meself :twisted:

Looks like we might be b2b as subsonica soon m8 :cool:

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personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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You could hear 2 different dj's play wot they both called 'hardstyle' but still hear 2 completely different sets :cool:

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ie.cally + juice / mzone :lol:

i use to see hardstyle influenced by Hard trance but now i see hardstyle influencedmore by gabba myself (the harder hardstyle)

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personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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OK, flair play. But in my opinion the more Gabba/Industrial influenced Hardstyle sounds alot classier and well more produced.
Big difference to the majority of the cheesy stuff.

Just my opinion though, and i also agree with you Yoshi about 2 different DJ's playoing Hardstyle but sounding different. Just comes down to individual taste really.

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I do like some of the dark & industrial stuff meself :twisted:


Looks like we might be b2b as subsonica soon m8 :cool:

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Bring it on :rambo:

the problem within the dutch hardstyle scene atm is that they are pumping up the tempo considerably so it almost seems hardcore..

the in qontrol party was a terrible example of that.

mind: i do not hate hardcore, fact is : i like it.
but hardstyle and hardcore should not melt together to the same style.. alltough producers tend to try this lately.

i wouldn't mind hardstyle going back a 5 BPM's in speed atm since the difference with the 2000/2001 tunes is unbelievable.
they went from 134/135 to 148/150 sommot.. :shock:

plus producers should use more innovative sounds. i'm currently experimenting with more new types of basslines. now i just need to fix my records to be published

aye - I know what u mean about the speed with the tunes........but I like em fast :clap:

mixing tunes like Hardstyle Masterz - Beat Diz and Zenith vs Avex - I'm Your Deejay ......one's on +8 and the others on +13

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

personally, i cant agree with anybody who says a sound is going a "certain way", as each dj is entitled to their own sound...

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OK, flair play. But in my opinion the more Gabba/Industrial influenced Hardstyle sounds alot classier and well more produced.
Big difference to the majority of the cheesy stuff.

Just my opinion though, and i also agree with you Yoshi about 2 different DJ's playoing Hardstyle but sounding different. Just comes down to individual taste really.

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I do like some of the dark & industrial stuff meself :twisted:

Looks like we might be b2b as subsonica soon m8 :cool:

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It does mate yeah ;) It will be class lad, me and you will get it Rockin' mate! :twisted:

****in rite m8 :twisted: :rambo:

Speed?


ANd yer complaining??? :twisted:

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Originally Posted by ScuL

the problem within the dutch hardstyle scene atm is that they are pumping up the tempo considerably so it almost seems hardcore..

the in qontrol party was a terrible example of that.

mind: i do not hate hardcore, fact is : i like it.
but hardstyle and hardcore should not melt together to the same style.. alltough producers tend to try this lately.

i wouldn't mind hardstyle going back a 5 BPM's in speed atm since the difference with the 2000/2001 tunes is unbelievable.
they went from 134/135 to 148/150 sommot.. :shock:

plus producers should use more innovative sounds. i'm currently experimenting with more new types of basslines. now i just need to fix my records to be published

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people who like bangin hardcore and not cheesey hardcore wud like the fact that hardstyle and some types of hardtrance is speeded up,av heared a phew tunes played by certain dj's at hardcore speed i.e Dj the crow meets Dj arne The Speed which is bangin at hardcore speed i actually prefer it like that.at the end of the day its worth mixing with hardcore or sets wud get boring as like gabba with hardstyle

I think i rote the ending like Gabba and Hardstyle is boring sorry but no ****'in way ! ;)

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Originally Posted by ScuL

the problem within the dutch hardstyle scene atm is that they are pumping up the tempo considerably so it almost seems hardcore..

the in qontrol party was a terrible example of that.

mind: i do not hate hardcore, fact is : i like it.
but hardstyle and hardcore should not melt together to the same style.. alltough producers tend to try this lately.

i wouldn't mind hardstyle going back a 5 BPM's in speed atm since the difference with the 2000/2001 tunes is unbelievable.
they went from 134/135 to 148/150 sommot.. :shock:

plus producers should use more innovative sounds. i'm currently experimenting with more new types of basslines. now i just need to fix my records to be published

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people who like bangin hardcore and not cheesey hardcore wud like the fact that hardstyle and some types of hardtrance is speeded up,av heared a phew tunes played by certain dj's at hardcore speed i.e Dj the crow meets Dj arne The Speed which is bangin at hardcore speed i actually prefer it like that.at the end of the day its worth mixing with hardcore or sets wud get boring as like gabba with hardstyle

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agreed! i love playing slow hardcore with my hardstyle to pick things up.

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Originally Posted by DJ Pearcey

Im sorry but I think we need a big discussion on HARDSTYLE, in my opinion hardstyle over the past 3 months has been very poor. Im so fed up with the same kicks the same high pitch stabs and the lack of effort gone into some tracks. When I play out im playing alot of old hardstyle and new hard techno now, im guttted to think hardstyle is on its way out but with all these tunes coming out that are crap at the moment its getting such a bad reputation. Big labels such as dance pollution and blutonium are even average now. I think its over for this genre, what do the BOA lads and lasses think. and as for suntec!! whats that all about!!

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amen brother pearce

you can carry on with the Hard Techno Pearcey boy ;)

defo keeping with the hardstyle - still does it for me - more-so when out now as it's gettin plays in loadsa nights - on BIG systems........

realising soooooooo many tunes sound waaaaaaaay better on a Loud system.......

each to their own though innit!! - I'm happy with my current music.... All the waaaaaaay :clap:

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Originally Posted by Andy__C

you can carry on with the Hard Techno Pearcey boy ;)

defo keeping with the hardstyle - still does it for me - more-so when out now as it's gettin plays in loadsa nights - on BIG systems........

realising soooooooo many tunes sound waaaaaaaay better on a Loud system.......

each to their own though innit!! - I'm happy with my current music.... All the waaaaaaay :clap:

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hardstyle is defo more club music i love them basslines on a big rig :clap: :clap:

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Originally Posted by Andy__C

you can carry on with the Hard Techno Pearcey boy ;)

defo keeping with the hardstyle - still does it for me - more-so when out now as it's gettin plays in loadsa nights - on BIG systems........

realising soooooooo many tunes sound waaaaaaaay better on a Loud system.......

each to their own though innit!! - I'm happy with my current music.... All the waaaaaaay :clap:

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If ur happy with hardstyle at the moment then you must be easily pleased. So ur happy with suntec,blutonium,dance pollution at the moment? yeh??

Im not just switching to techno its not that clear cut, im saying I prefer what techno is doing for the scene at present.

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you can carry on with the Hard Techno Pearcey boy ;)

defo keeping with the hardstyle - still does it for me - more-so when out now as it's gettin plays in loadsa nights - on BIG systems........

realising soooooooo many tunes sound waaaaaaaay better on a Loud system.......

each to their own though innit!! - I'm happy with my current music.... All the waaaaaaay :clap:

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hardstyle is defo more club music i love them basslines on a big rig :clap: :clap:

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agreed that hardstyle is better on a loud system but that is the same for all genre's imo.

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you can carry on with the Hard Techno Pearcey boy ;)

defo keeping with the hardstyle - still does it for me - more-so when out now as it's gettin plays in loadsa nights - on BIG systems........

realising soooooooo many tunes sound waaaaaaaay better on a Loud system.......

each to their own though innit!! - I'm happy with my current music.... All the waaaaaaay :clap:

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hardstyle is defo more club music i love them basslines on a big rig :clap: :clap:

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agreed that hardstyle is better on a loud system but that is the same for all genre's imo.

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yehj i know tat but wot i meant is that wen im at home i prefer to listen to trance as hardstyles not chilin out music. so hardstyles better in a club imo

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If ur happy with hardstyle at the moment then you must be easily pleased. So ur happy with suntec,blutonium,dance pollution at the moment? yeh??

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Nah - haven't been buying much from those labels......... but my hardstyle purchases and like's branch beyond those labels and I don't take those labels in 'the big 5' to reprasent the scene as a whole.....

when I hear a shit tune I tend to think "thats shit" and it's forgotten in an instant......... don't like to dwell on it and worry that the specific tune is dragging down the genre......or the label..... or the artist.....

I just prefer to plow through untill I hear a tune I really like, buy it, play it.........and be happy :lol: - I've never been one to be faithful to an artist or label - just what I think sounds hammering and appeals to me.......could be on Subliminal for all i care........


Nothing worse than being down about the music u love, or to be pesimistic about IMHO......

you don't like something - don't subject yourself to it.......get on with what you do like........ whether that be techno in your case Pearcy....then furry muff..... turns out that your like's have changed, or what u did like doens't satisfy ur taste's anymore - no need to blame that on the fall of a genre.......

cos if u look at the country's where it's all from - IMHO its bigger than ever.......



everyone's different though innit....... :cool:

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fair enuf andy boy ! ;) :lol:

sorry mate - lookin back.....ye olde high horse was gotten on...... :oops:


get my drift though - I'm just lovin some tunes that are out now
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looking back as well I look a right moody bastard !! haha

check out some of marc acardipane on PCP and resident-E.

has alot of hard style coming out now days :(

i got some you might want too, i got them by mistake thinking they would be hard (like hardcore, doom etc)