will vinyl survive..???

[Buttman]

Vinyl will survive but techno will not.

Suck on that one.

[Stella Boy]

Vinyl will survive but techno will not.

Suck on that one.

Why ?

[Buttman]

Vinyl will survive but techno will not.

Suck on that one.

Why ?

Because everyone is just trying to kick life into the corpse.

[Stella Boy]

Because everyone is just trying to kick life into the corpse.

I guess that includes yourself then Mika?

You may be correct up to a certain degree but techno will survive for many years to come. It's been on this planet for 30 years and has progressed, regressed and stood still but there's always been a re-invention of what people call "techno" at various points of it's life. To say a music genre will not survive is a wee bit narrow-minded just based on your own views.

[dirty_bass]

yeah, get a grip, I hate coutry and western, and I think it is irrelavent and shite. But it`s still going strong, and listened to by masses of people.

Techno as a genre will not die, it will evolve. Although having people just be negative for the sake of it Mika, is a little pointless.

[AcidBastard]

I thought this was a discussion about wether or not VINYL will survive.
Make your own post if you think techno is gonna die, which I think is incredibly dumb to post on a techno messageboard

[dcdn]

well, first of all somebody said here that there wasnt any 96/24 sound of dvd audio available, well the new pioneers DVJ-X1's which can play well any of the available cd or dvd discs nowadays. including 96 khz 24 bit sound! they're just like cdj 1000 but than also for dvd's (check www.pioneerprodj.com , still i think (getting back to the subject of topicstarter) in about 15 years from now vinyl will disappear from the scene, just because of the technical revolution nowadays. [/quote]

[dirty_bass]

the resolution argument for vinyl is just silly.
even 44-16 CD has a better frequency response then vinyl.
+ you can do a lot more in the stereo field then the limitations of vinyl.
And with vinyl the louder and deeper the cut the more space needed for the grooves etc.
+ a lot of vinyl is cut from CD master anyway.
I love vinyl, but I hate producing for vinyl, because you have to compromise on sound.

[Evil G]

i don't deny that vinyl has it's problems, and on a home stereo i think cds sound cleaner and better, but on a big pa system, i prefer the sound of records. at volume very high volume cds sound tiny and cold to me, while records sound warmer and fuller. that warmth could very well be a result of record's poorer frequency response, but i still think it's preferable. i think that most people find a little harmonic distortion adds to the sound rather than taking away from it.

[DJMAYA]

that would have to be a mainfactor to this proposed progression.
ie that vinyl is limited as to what freguencies can be used.

i didnt know that but i can totally understand how that could limit us as producers....and also that the desire to be able to write for a more suitable resourse would be strong.

But yea, i can hardly afford to buy records when and if i want , let alone soft/hard/ware.....i can wish and dream though(most days)

wrong country....whooooops :clap:

hahahahhaaha :dontevengothere:

[Buttman]

Haha hit an achilles there did I not? :lol:

[jonnyspeed]

silly question really :roll: ;) It's not about being anal either Laurence. It is about about personal choice!

Im all for technology too etc, but for me, a dj turning up with his bag of vinyl is much better then one turning up with a wee mp3 player or whatever it is they use, see dont even know ;)

It's worrying, cos before long, will dj's become like some of the so-called LIVE*scratchy chin* PA's?? Bosh a cd in or whatever, mess about looking like they are spinning of the perfect mix, when really they are not, could this be the future?? :?:

Good DJ play to the crowd - which is not really something you can prepare. I agree with the CDs vs box of vynl - my reason is more simple = any fukwitt can mix with CD decks that beat match for you - not really alot of skill in that unless you wrote the tunes.

[Miromiric]

the future is a cpu randomly mixing in top100 chart and ppl avin it bigtime.
are you so blinded that you really dont see that the point of it all is playing music and not beatmatching? beatmatching is a ****ing necessity.
EVERYONE can beatmatch, its really easy, but only 10 ppl in the world can play good music with balls and brains.

[jonnyspeed]

:roll: no

[DJMAYA]

yes i agree.

Djs beatmatch and do it very well.
Musicians make music! now that aintso easy no matter what your using.

maybe the technology will take away sm glitches and allow more musical idea to flow? but then hey, isnt it the glitches that make us human

[dirty_bass]

I would prefer my equipment to beat match for me, then I can get on with the bit that takes talent and creativity, the actual selection, and the mixing itself.
Anyone can beatmatch, that doesn`t make you a good DJ.

Jah Shaka plays with one deck. And he fukkin rules the roost.

[DJMAYA]

yup i understand where you're coming from Dirtybass.

[Sunil]

Jah Shaka plays with one deck. And he fukkin rules the roost.

That's all down to whether you like what he plays or not. He's a good selector is what you mean?

[jonnyspeed]

I would prefer my equipment to beat match for me, then I can get on with the bit that takes talent and creativity, the actual selection, and the mixing itself.
Anyone can beatmatch, that doesn`t make you a good DJ.

Jah Shaka plays with one deck. And he fukkin rules the roost.

But when mixing becomes a simple job of programming a CD player it loses any organic human feel and just beomes robotic - like when you hear stuio mixes done on computers for mix CD - fuking rubbish compared to a real DJ mixing in one take, warts and all.

You can keep yer CD players, imo.

[Komplex]

Getting an ego from playing other peoples music is stupid in the first place, let alone how you play other peoples music...

I don't care what a dj plays music on. As long as the end result sounds good I'm happy. And I'm sure 60% of the crowd think the same way. 30% are chin strokers and 10% are just about to pass out and can't hear the music anyway.

;)