The One Family Thing

[Sunil]

Btw. Who says labels won't listen to stuff unless you know someone they know or are in the click? Can you back this up?

ummm look at most major label releases, a lot of nepotism no?

Bigger names sell more records, hence why Mills records on React and not Steve Bicknell, or why Marco Bailey records on Primate and not Tim Baker. If someone's tracks are up to it and they send them to the right people, they will get released eventually; and if Liebing wants to put out a Picotto mix or indeed Burkat a Klein mix then that's their business. The elitist/"You scratch my back" thing is rife to a degree in techno, but it's not a big issue as far as I can see. Who are the people that are being really affected by this or being kept out? There's no-one being really hard done by in this at all. Let the good music just stand up and be counted, as all this techno equality politics and propaganda is a load of shite and a waste of energy.

[dirty_bass]

as all this techno equality politics and propaganda is a load of shite and a waste of energy.

Once again, my point is proved eloquently.

More love, less hate. Communication is the key, there is too much cooler than Jesus stuff going on.
We can make this more than just another section of the music industry.
Why accept the same normality prevailent in all other music genre`s/business in general.

hmmm

Maybe I`m banging my head against the wall, but if techno is just "I`m alright Jack, Look after no.1", personal gain, then it`s no better than capitalism and the promotion of self over community.

I think we can be better than that.

[massplanck]

as all this techno equality politics and propaganda is a load of shite and a waste of energy.

Once again, my point is proved eloquently.

More love, less hate. Communication is the key, there is too much cooler than Jesus stuff going on.
We can make this more than just another section of the music industry.
Why accept the same normality prevailent in all other music genre`s/business in general.

hmmm

Maybe I`m banging my head against the wall, but if techno is just "I`m alright Jack, Look after no.1", personal gain, then it`s no better than capitalism and the promotion of self over community.

I think we can be better than that.

How groovy would the techno scene be under communisim?
Eastern Europe broke free recently and guess what.....

[The Overfiend]

There never was a one family of techno that just the pills talking mate - what a load of fackin' hippy bollocks. One Family my arse. Yer very closest mates and (if you are lucky) some of your family will look out for you - everybody else you trust at your own peril. If you beleave otherwise you're a fool, imo.

An that LP - best album of the year? nar.

Dead right Jonnyspeed. I never heard of this "Big Family" bollocks before either. It's the music industry lads, get over it. They're just jealous they aren't Chris Liebing.

Tell us about CL-Recordings? How did the label come about? Which artists are signed to the label?

CLRecordings is the main Label, we have four sublabels by now; CLAU, Stigmata, CLretry ( Remix Label) and CLREvo ( stuff from Album remixed) So far on CLR I release mostly my tracks. But all together including all sublables I already released tracks and remixes from Adam Beyer, Speedy J., Steve Rachmad, Mauro Picotto, Smith and Selway; Toneman and many more. Wich is really nice, most of them gets close friends by now; DJing quite often together and sometimes we went together for vacation. I hear often that people think there is a big competition between us, but its totally not wich makes me happy and it makes loads of fun to work like this.

[Sunil]

as all this techno equality politics and propaganda is a load of shite and a waste of energy.

Once again, my point is proved eloquently.

Perhaps so, I just don't think you should be reading into all this so much. Too much undue drama is being injected into this subject/situation. Better off talking about how the music could be improved rather than about how the big names hog the spotlight with their buddies.. that's just the way things are, you can't change those people.

Maybe I`m banging my head against the wall, but if techno is just "I`m alright Jack, Look after no.1", personal gain, then it`s no better than capitalism and the promotion of self over community.

I think we can be better than that.

No-one's arguing that there shouldn't be techno communities that look out for one another, of course there should, but we're talking about the Burkat/Klein album here and what it's saying... to me it says very little that is new or indeed constructive, nor does it point to a solution.

[dirty_bass]

Communism as an idea was cool, but abused.
What does this have to do with anything.
Are you a hater?
Why the negativity?
Isn`t the world dark enough?

[massplanck]

Communism as an idea was cool, but abused.
What does this have to do with anything.
Are you a hater?
Why the negativity?
Isn`t the world dark enough?

I'm not a hater. I'm extremely happy with (my version) of the techno scene at the moment.

I'm the one who said we should all shut up and be thankful for what we have in this life. i.e the luxury of pissing about with electronic music.

[The Overfiend]

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No-one's arguing that there shouldn't be techno communities that look out for one another, of course there should, but we're talking about the Burkat/Klein album here and what it's saying... to me it says very little that is new or indeed constructive, nor does it point to a solution.

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Sometime just pointing out the problem on their scale is enough to wake people up to do something about it, or even just know that it exists. ;) I love Sunil an Planck so I don't want them to think I'm going to give em the titty twister. But I'm loving the fact that this discussion is going the way it is. And Steve No Fret. Remember the future will come soon enough.

[massplanck]

[quote="SummerOfSam"]

Sometime just pointing out the problem on their scale is enough to wake people up to do something about it, or even just know that it exists. ;) I love Sunil an Planck so I don't want them to think I'm going to give em the titty twister. [quote]

I have three nipples so I hope you have three hands.

Maybe they were right. If they hadnt released this record and someone hadnt started here we would never had this discussion about how shite (some people think) the scene is. So something got us talking again... The One Family Record. I do wanna hear it. Sunil is it in your record mountain?

[Sunil]

Sometime just pointing out the problem on their scale is enough to wake people up to do something about it, or even just know that it exists. ;)

True enough.

[Sunil]

The One Family Record. I do wanna hear it. Sunil is it in your record mountain?

No not this one. I do like Burkat and Klein, have been interested to hear it...

[The Overfiend]

Msn me when you guys both get a chance fellas, I'll hook u up.

[Numeric]

Regardless of the message on the sleeve, this release should be in everyone's techno collection...