i dunno, im all for quality.. im not sure if my music has much 'attitude' but im cool with that, as i myself dont have much 'attitude' and my only 'rawness' comes a few hours after an evening on the curry..

I know what you are saying though but i am well in favour of quality sound over rawness.. if both can be achived then fantastic (quite rare imo) but more than often producers either have a clean sound or a dirty sound.. and if i have to choose then give me clean anyday.

I do like tracks to have character of course - just not necessarily punky attitude type character as thats not somthing i can relate to.

I think if there was more emphasis on good production (which is what this is really all about) there would be less rubbish music out there clogging up the industry - people would think twice about releasing thier underproduced music as the overall standard would be much higher than it currently is.

Basically i think that 'rawness' you talk about is used by too many people as an excuse for production skills that arent yet up to scratch. It is well possible to have good crisp production and a raw sound - a producer should be able to make somthing sound dirty and clean at the same time..