Roland 303

[Scrawny]

Just wondering if anyone could tell me what the main difference is between the TB303 and the MC303, all I know is that the TB is the original one that came out in 82.

[romelpotter]

tb 303 does basslines
mc 303 emulates the 303, 808,909 and a shit load more although the sounds are very datyed these days.

[Evil G]

tb = good
mc = bad

[MARKEG]

tb = good
mc = bad

:clap:

[g]

tb = good
mc = bad

that's being kind

[Scrawny]

How much a TB303 set one back these days???

[Komplex]

betweem 50 and 2000 dollars

[acidchild]

$50? Please tell me where?

$2000?? Who's the jackass trying to sell for this?

The MC-303 is a POS groovebox...maybe a good drum machine at best. The TB-303 is the true Acid Machine. The one and only=o]

MC-303


TB-303

[Komplex]

Thats $AU

I've seen them in the trading post for over 2 grand before. Ones that have the devilfish mod etc. Theres one currently for sale by Voiteck who runs Truck music if anyone remembers that label...

Theres also an un-modded 303 going for AU$1300 not too far from my area. If anyone wants it I'm more than happy to drive down, buy it and ship it over if I get some petrol and services money ;)

[acidchild]

Ahhhh....$au! OK. That explains it! But hey, $50 AU is super cheap still=o]

[dirty_bass]

If you want a good 303 and don`t want to pay inflated prices for an old piece of very limited kit.
Track down the Freebase 383 by F.A.T
It sounds just like a 303 (I have had both), has a retune botton, for when the tuning drifts. Is midi compatible, has bigger knobs, the filter has more range and woomf. And costs about 90 quid second hand.
Also, the wave type is constantly variable between square and sine.

[grog|e]

Check out the future retro 777. Its been a round for a few years now, so you might be able to find one secondhand pretty cheap. They *really* rock if you want classic analog synthisis for the computer age.

Its got almost everything you could want:
2 osc/ringmod + noise + sub oscs
step sequencer
builtin midi/CV gate converter

no effects or LFO as I remember, but you can use the oscs as LFOs I think

makes the original 303 look like a dogs cock in a stocking

http://www.future-retro.com/

[Evil G]

my buddy has an fr777. it sounds awesome, and can do a convincing 303 impression and more. but the hose heads at future retro are taking the analog purist thing too far by not including patch memory. the fr777 nobs are actually continuous, and they would have to quantize the nob positions to store them digitally. big deal. i'd rather be able to save patches to near their true position than not at all!

[j_s]

If you want a good 303 and don`t want to pay inflated prices for an old piece of very limited kit.
Track down the Freebase 383 by F.A.T
It sounds just like a 303 (I have had both), has a retune botton, for when the tuning drifts. Is midi compatible, has bigger knobs, the filter has more range and woomf. And costs about 90 quid second hand.
Also, the wave type is constantly variable between square and sine.

Shit. I saw one of these on ebay for about £50, but didn't bother bidding as I thought anything that cheap would have to be a bit shit.

What's the filter like for routing other audio through? I seem to remember reading this was possible with the unit and a 303 emulator plus a decent analogue filter for under £100 would be very nice indeed...

[acidchild]

I have both the 303 and the FB-383. And had a 777 for a few years. the 383 and 777 are excellent. The 383 can be heard along the 303 in the new Acid House tracks i just did. I don't have with the 777, been too long since i sold it. Patch memory? Who cares. They're not being purists...it's simply a cost thing. Keep the price as low as possible. No one has ever complained about the non patch storage at all. I think it's a good trade off.

[Evil G]

Patch memory? Who cares. They're not being purists...it's simply a cost thing. Keep the price as low as possible. No one has ever complained about the non patch storage at all. I think it's a good trade off.

with 32 nobs and 7 switches, i care. i don't want to dig out a binder full of hand drawn diagrams and twiddle with fine tuning to get back the sound i made yesterday. i want to call it up by midi. at even a low hourly rate for your time, such a feature would pay itself off very quickly.

[DJZeMig_L]

I think the 777 does "record yer patch" if u record the pattern, meaning that the "patch" is trapped 2 the pattern!


Z

[dirty_bass]

the 383 has no patch memory, but you don`t need it, at all.
The accenting is fab.
You`ll need to run your 303 or 383 through some effects, I advice some distortion of orverdrive stomp boxes, and a chorus for extra chordal resonance for that "control" by secret hero sound.

[acidchild]

I think the 777 does "record yer patch" if u record the pattern, meaning that the "patch" is trapped 2 the pattern!


Z

Nope. The only memory it has is for the sequencer, which is completly seperate from the synth section. Same as the original 303. The knobs don't send or recieve any type of MIDI controls either.

[sash]

hey Komplex yeah i saw that Voiteck add too. Wouldn't ya just love to get one and make it go dugga dugga digga digga gidda gidda eeiiggga eiiigga eeiiiidiii eeeiiidiiii aaaaiiieeiiiiiiiiiiaiiiiioooaaaooouuuuuiiiiii....