What is Hard Trance now!?!?!?!?!

[Yoshimitsu]

your missing my point. i wasnt disputing the fact that it derived from hard trance, or that early hardstyle was 'influenced' hard trance. im saying that now the genres are entirely seperate imo

ok your prob gonna slate me here but what you played at subsonica did sound slightly trancy to me.

if you had played some of the hardstyle sets that ive heard on here which to me is just bang bang bang i would of been out that room like a shot.

all these different genres does my head in

:lol:

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thats coz the first half of my set was hard trance :lol:

[Tristan]

hardstyle = slowed down gabba

[DJ Corbzy]

hardstyle = slowed down gabba

:lol:

[Voorheez]

Corbz, I think you're a bit off mark.

You're trying to say that Hardstyle is actually hard trance because it evolved from it? Doesn't that mean then that hard trance should just be called trance as it evolved from that and still carries similar traits?

The point you'tr trying to make seems a little bizarre to me. Of course Hardstyle evolved from Hard Trance, I don't think anyone would dispute that, but it's now become vastly different due to producers adding influences from hard house, gabba and even techno.

[Yoshimitsu]

Corbz, I think you're a bit off mark.

You're trying to say that Hardstyle is actually hard trance because it evolved from it? Doesn't that mean then that hard trance should just be called trance as it evolved from that and still carries similar traits?

The point you'tr trying to make seems a little bizarre to me. Of course Hardstyle evolved from Hard Trance, I don't think anyone would dispute that, but it's now become vastly different due to producers adding influences from hard house, gabba and even techno.

exactly m8 :clap:

[DJ Corbzy]

Corbz, I think you're a bit off mark.

You're trying to say that Hardstyle is actually hard trance because it evolved from it? Doesn't that mean then that hard trance should just be called trance as it evolved from that and still carries similar traits?

The point you'tr trying to make seems a little bizarre to me. Of course Hardstyle evolved from Hard Trance, I don't think anyone would dispute that, but it's now become vastly different due to producers adding influences from hard house, gabba and even techno.

To answer your question, yes I do still call hard trance 'trance'...

[Voorheez]

You don't think that there is a need to differentiate then?

I do - the difference between a Push track and a Scot Project track is quite major if you ask me, and it just saves confusion. Same as a Scot Project track and a Technoboy track. Similar but also very different in many ways.

I don't like labelling myself, but it is necessary, and hardstyle definitely needed at some point to be broken away from hard trance.

[Hakka]

You don't think that there is a need to differentiate then?

I do - the difference between a Push track and a Scot Project track is quite major if you ask me, and it just saves confusion. Same as a Scot Project track and a Technoboy track. Similar but also very different in many ways.

I don't like labelling myself, but it is necessary, and hardstyle definitely needed at some point to be broken away from hard trance.

Very well said. I mean a lot of the stuff I play now that I call hard style I was calling hard trance back 2001 (i.e hennes & cold)... but I label what I play as hard style as it best suits the description.