Quote Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu
your missing my point. i wasnt disputing the fact that it derived from hard trance, or that early hardstyle was 'influenced' hard trance. im saying that now the genres are entirely seperate imo
I don't think they are at all! If they were entirely separate, they wouldn't get played in the same sets!

Do you not see at events: HARD TRANCE & HARDSTYLE

IMO, Hardstyle is Hard Trance...