interesting advice Z, quick question: i tried adding Antares Tube effect to the set in soundforge but i think Sonic Foundry products only support DX plugin support and not VST right? Cause the last time i checked my antares installer it came in VST format :(

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but there is a handy little thing you can get called a "vst convertor". it converts vst to dx(or at least pretends to!, but either way it works). dont know who makes it or where to get it... i got mine years ago, but if you send me your mail address to baz180mph@warpmail.net i will gladly send it on.