Final Scratch and what do you think of....

[icb]

I`m getting more and more interested in final scratch, want to play some stuff that hasn`t been released yet, need your opinion on it, is it really good, and so on?

[TechMouse]

The technologys is great, and seeing the tune go past on the screen as a wave is really helpful - especially in a dark club.

But - I do think it encourages some people to just download music and never buy any. I understand completely that it's great for people who produce etc. who want to play their own stuff or their own edits - this is how I would use it mainly - but I know a couple of people who have it and just see it as their ticket to "never having to buy a record again". Which is a bit sad.

[death on a stick]

Final Scratch seems to be becoming a thing of the past. An outdated technology. But we don't need yet another thread about it, just do a search and find the many threads that have already been posted discussing FS and non-vinyl DJing technologies.

[gary_human]

As far as I can see - i have never used it - what is the point of imitating something which plays records when there is no records to be played? Why didnt Stanton just use their technology and develop something which did somethin new and innovative?

I love decks because of records and if every one plays final scratch there will be no records - so why imitate something that would not exist without the 'BLACK GOLD' ??!!

Im not into it because of the principle and never will be (Old git!)

Gimme some new 21st century technology which doesnt imitate anything else,

DJ ing is about playing records. There would be no DJs with no records.

Long live vinyl :lol:

[g]

if you're shopping FS you may want to also look at the Rane/SSL system. a lot of people seem to think it improves upon the FS system in a few detail areas.

[techno_smack]

has any1 tried the Ms. Pinky one???

[jonnyspeed]

...great - so long as it ain't an excuse to rip off artists by never buying their tunes or going to see them play. Fair enuf if stuff is deleted and you honestly missed it but otherwise buy their records.

Best use, I think, is to mix your own stuff you knock up on Fruity/Reason/Pro Tools/Cubase whatever...

[g]

there's a lot to be said for being able to play your own edits of stuff you like

[MangaFish]

but isnt that the point of cd decks?

never used either so i cant really comment

[xfive]

I have hated every cd deck I have ever used in comparison to vinyl..... that being said.. the new Technics ones look pretty dope :lol:

[jake]

miss pinky is cool for a couple reasons..
1. its cheap
2. works with maxmsp (if u know that kinda stuff)

reasons it sucks
1. super ugly interface (guess u can make a new one though)
2. need to buy pre amps for it

[g]

miss pinky is cool for a couple reasons..
1. its cheap
2. works with maxmsp (if u know that kinda stuff)

reasons it sucks
1. super ugly interface (guess u can make a new one though)
2. need to buy pre amps for it

and 2/2 potentially negates 1/1

[sash]

How the hell do they invent stuff like that. that's what i think :roll:

[Evil G]

but isnt that the point of cd decks?

never used either so i cant really comment

the two major drawbacks of cd decks are:

a) no tactile control - you can't touch the cd while it spins

b) 16 bit sound - 65,000 degrees of amplitude

with final scratch, you get to touch a record, and you have the option of playing 24 bit files (16 million degrees of amplitude), which, imho, sound much fuller and warmer than cds.

if you are playing tracks ripped from cd or downloaded from the net, they wont be 24 bit, but if you produced them yourself though ought to be.

i do tend to think though that ableton is going to supercede final scratch. nobody cares about beat mixing anymore, because anybody can learn to do it in a couple of months. so the direction a lot of people are taking is, forget beat mixing, spend more time tweaking filters and fx.

[mindgame]

a) no tactile control - you can't touch the cd while it spins

the new technic one is pretty nice though..its got a small platter with the same grips on teh side as a normal tech dek.
i was surprised..alot of $$$$$$$4 though.


im a much bigger fan of vinyl but FS was fun to use..as mentioned before teh screen is nice to have..
i kept wanting to pick up the record to put it on the otherside if i dident like the track i was hearing ( i was going through someone elses data bank of tracks.)

i dont like the records though..too thick..but i guess thats so they dont wear out to fast//

[icb]

I see what you`re all saying,I was thinking about it also, but I was merely interested is the feel the same as real vinyl, cause of some latency and all? Is there really no difference between real record and FS record? thanks, anyway

[Miromiric]

its an exciting new technology, i rather use FS then vinyl.

[miasma man]

I've not tried FS it does sound good in principle, dunno tho, i reckon with vinyl there's a certain romance and simplicity with the plastic that can't be beat ?

[Miromiric]

ofcourse it can.

[miasma man]

possibly - depends who/what you are and how you feel, down to the individual ?