Dave Clarke moves to using CDs...

[massplanck]

DC Press release:

The Move from Vinyl to CD

After some time (I wanted to move to CD in 1997) I
have finally got a machine that i believe is sonically
and technically up to the job of replacing the
hallowed and much loved 1210. I was originally asked
to demo the Technics CD deck in New York at the
beginning of the year but i didn’t have the space in
my calendar, however after finally getting my hands on
one I have concluded that I will now switch over to
cd’s in the short term, this will take some time and
allow me to road test the machine in clubs. Initially
I will bring my own, but would appreciate any
promoters that read this and have budget to either
hire or buy, to supply 2-3 of them, eventually my
technical rider will change and any one with questions
can send either an email to my office or speak to my
road manager direct. Please note that Pioneer/Denon or
other makes of cd decks will not be used, furthermore
technical 1210’s will still be needed.

I know some of you flat earthers will be upset, but
whilst i love vinyl its’ time has been written on the
wall for ages and i felt that Final Scratch and
Albeton live wasn’t for me in terms of interface and
sound quality (although some djs have their own valid
and difference opinions). In my mind at the moment the
pro’s outweigh the cons, it will speed up the both
mine and other producers music to clubs (being cheaper
for smaller labels/artists), the bass frequencies will
be fatter and stereo (in non bridged systems), the
flexibility in mixing techniques not available to
vinyl (and some computer systems ) are exciting, and
it uses a standard that is already tried and tested.
The only cons that i can think of are slower load up
time than vinyl and inability of titling each cd with
vdu outlet to a central LCD. I believe these are not
unsurmountable problems.

I must also say that this is an entirely professional
decision, I am not sponsored by this company.

Finally............
Notice to promo/record companies and artists:
Please from now on can you send both vinyl and cd of
all singles/albums that you feel suit the material
that i play out e.g.: Novamute, Ruskin, inigo Kennedy,
Victim, end2end, twilight, 76, turbo, Birmingham Boys,
DiskoB, Gigolo, electrix etc. etc. etc. Can all cd’s
please be labelled clearly as cdr’s without
writing/print can easily be lost, also please don’t
forget to finalise, and if it has been professionally
mastered please label “production copy”. Only 16bit
44.1 will be played, mp3 will be ignored. Finally, if
you can afford to, than please send any back cat on cd
if you know i have been a fan!

Many many thanks
Dave Clarke

[ampassasinbirmingham]

clarkey finally comes off his stool----Well sort off

[doc12inch]

the technics one is shite - the cdj/denon kick its ass all over town

[anx]

the technics cd deck is pretty close...like playing with a warped vinyl
i still remain a vinyl supporter tho :)

[DJMAYA]

the idea is kool buit i think id go with final scratch if i had the choice.

[romelpotter]

NONONONONo records all the way, its part of the culture in my opinion, for me will never be replaced by cd, maybe the cd can be added in somerespect the my records will be with me always

[romelpotter]

using cd's to play my own stuff would be usefull, i would rather use one of the technics cd players than a final scratch i think
mind you i have neither used a technics cd player or final scratch so i guess i am basing my ideas on falic marketing.

[PDT]

Interesting...I support the move (hey, i started on CDs 10 years ago and then switched to vinyl :P).

Would love to see how it all pans out.

[djvartan]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

plus he picks a AWFUL cd deck.

:::::PUT DOWN THE CDS ! PICK UP SOME RECORDS !::::::

[dirty_bass]

At last the tides are changing.
Vinyl is so poor as a recording medium.

[Komplex]

As a muso, it will make it easier to get music out. Especially in this part of the world, vinyl pressing is too expensive and distribution costs are too high for it to be a worthwhile outlet for electronic music.

But yeah, for the older guys its hard to change or adopt a different way of thinking and playing music...

It's all good either way, because vinyl will still be around for the people that prefer it for its qualities.

[Komplex]

At last the tides are changing.
Vinyl is so poor as a recording medium.

I was going to say this too, but I don't want to start that vinyl vs cd thing that people often have arguments and punch ons about :)

[Dustin Zahn]

I don't mind collecting vinyl, but travelling with it and playing in clubs blows. The only reason I still mix vinyl is because its so easy to mix beats when you have a 12inch diameter to space out the beats. Who cares what they're doing, make your own choices and do your own thing.

[TechMouse]

Who cares what they're doing, make your own choices and do your own thing.

This is it really...

As long as what's on sounds good I don't care if it'd vinyl, CD's, mp3 - christ, even cassette if it takes the fancy of whoever's playing. They can stick a Casio "my first keyboard" on demo for all I care as long as it sounds good over a soundsystem.

Keep your eyes (and ears) peeled for my soon to be unveiled arse-kazoo set. Flappy techno.

[g]

Who cares what they're doing, make your own choices and do your own thing.

indeed, indeed. wise ye, grasshoppah.

but i wonder if there is some connection between the new technics cd decks and mascara?


;)

[doc12inch]

this is a link to prove how shite the new technics decks are


http://wizbitwonderland.com/video/361_technics01.mov


denon wins hands down - im still going to get a cdj tho

[Heroes]

I think this can be a heavily debated subject which can be argued from both sides, personally ive never liked the thought of carving a djing career from cd, i bought final scratch to aid my live sets but quickly sold it after audio quality, getting problems and also seeing sets from dj's infront of 2000 clubbers come to a grinding halt because of crashes. Ive seen the impact that mp3 has on the industry and i think if dj's move to cds as a major percentage of their media it will spiral where it wont be financially possible for new breed producers to work, or labels able to pull new talent, piracy will be out of control with cd burners currently being a part of everyday standard computer these days, with internet connection speeds on the rise full blown tracks will be as easy to swap as top trump cards in the playground. I understand that there are concerns about record prices from most countries, but i think we have to look a bit closer at distribution and shops also, i mean if you imagine the average import in countries is probably what £7.00 to £8.00, for most records i sell i have recieved a distributed price of between £1.90 - £2.00 per unit with pressing cost of about £1.00 per unit, you have £1.00 profit and we havnt even got to paying out any running costs of the label yet, phone bills, royalties, elctricity, insurance, mcps, promotion, postage, etc, etc ,etc. As you see if you could sell 10.000 units of each release no problem but thats far from the case in a scene at the moment where selling 2,000 units is considered a major result. So its fine for Mr Clarke to ask for cds for nothing more that a handfull of reasons, probably accumulating to

1: you can programme a start point

2: you can programme a loop, "isnt theres a handfull of stuff doing that anyway"

3: you can save the valuable time getting through customs helping you cram in 2 gigs in a night @ €20,000 each

but probably the most inovative ground breaking use is

4: you can carry your set in your Louis Vitton or Burberry wallet

Now this is not a direct attack at Dave personally because i know that its probably a scene shift, an evolution of technology call it what you will, but mostly it comes from people who have been rewarded plentifully from the scene, Final scratch same thing "Mr Hawtin & Mr Acquaviva" nice idea but the technologies not there to stop the piracy, so why not try to preserve a little of that for the next generation to encourage a flow of inovating talent to shine, or if not who knows what will happen. I mean if Dave had missed his birth slot by 20 years he would have seen its easier keeping "The Wolf" from the doors building the clubs than playing in them.

just a few thoughts no offence

[gumpy green]

heroes- thats spot on.

Ill never swith to cd, im just a traditionalist/purist/whatever.

I luv vinyl, simple.

Id maybe consider adding cd to my 2 deks but only to play my own stuff that i cant afford to get put on vinyl.

"fuk the cd, real djs use vinyl" - got that scraped into a cd on my bedroom wall........NICE.

Each to ther own tho, fine by me....

.....like to see some turntablist tricks get done on it tho.

And at that price why buy a turntable imation thats more expesive than the real deal......

[fitipaldi]

And at that price why buy a turntable imation thats more expesive than the real deal......

It's hardly an imitation mate, the control system may be similar but the functions on those cd players are far superior to any vinyl deck. I would love to add a cd deck to my setup but the cost is a bit prohibitive at the moment.

[gumpy green]

And at that price why buy a turntable imation thats more expesive than the real deal......

It's hardly an imitation mate, the control system may be similar but the functions on those cd players are far superior to any vinyl deck. I would love to add a cd deck to my setup but the cost is a bit prohibitive at the moment.

suppose its got some functions V doesnt....but vice versa aswell..