does techno have to be percursive to be good techno?

[The Divide]

nice one. Have you'd listened to Stockhausen's Kontate?

I saw this 15 min video he did the sound for. Its pretty twisted and all very dark. I think it was called In Absentia. Check it out

[miss bass]

I tell you what, when that thunder was going off the other night, and rain hammering down!! My god, could have done some major recordings

[The Divide]

:lol:

Beware of electrocution

[miss bass]

:lol:

Beware of electrocution

well i know!! But i was thinking up some great things when it was. Shame i didnt have a mic, id of been out in the rain proper! :lol:

[MangaFish]

silly topic.

cair to elaberate a little rather than just sit and critasize? :roll:

[MangaFish]

i think some producers get a little lazy and fall back on percussion to provide the energy and rhythem rather than having an interesting structure or interacting samples that provide the groove.

i usually think of percussion as an after thought to pad a track out a little, rather than the essence of the tune. i sometimes get the impression that some techno producers would be unable to write anything if they didnt have access to basic percursive samples

[Col]

silly topic.

cair to elaberate a little rather than just sit and critasize? :roll:

well probably 99% of techno has some form of percussion, so you could say the question has already being answered for you. then to say non-percussive techno doesnt work is just pure ridiculous, its a bit like saying does coffee need 2 sugars to make it taste good?

[dirty_bass]

think some producers get a little lazy and fall back on percussion to provide the energy and rhythem rather than having an interesting structure or interacting samples that provide the groove.

i usually think of percussion as an after thought to pad a track out a little, rather than the essence of the tune. i sometimes get the impression that some techno producers would be unable to write anything if they didnt have access to basic percursive samples

Ummm

Percussion. n striking of one thing against another.
Percussion Instrument, musical instrument played by being struck, such as drum or cymbals.

Percussion as an afterthought.

Umm, no percussion, no kickdrums, no hi-hats, no punch to the rhythm.

Percussion is the heartbeat to the body of techno.

(Well, what most of us call techno, ie techno for dancing)

[professor]

all dance music needs some percussion...as does all tribal...celtic...whathaveyou.
To me techno needs good percussion, but i personally love the synths. The synth lines are what makes a good track to me. from bass to lead to stabs...it's all about the synths.

[audioinjection]

not all techno has to have great percussion, i mean look at the kanzleramt stuff (diego, kowalski), all those great synth melodies are phat.

[Evil G]

personally, i really like both heavily percussive/rhythmic techno and synthy/melodic techno, but i've run into people who insist that if it has too many melodic components it can't be techno and must really be trance. their loss, i guess.

[The Overfiend]

their loss, i guess.

:clap:

[tioneb]

depends on what u call percussions

if u call abssdrums, hi hats , toms snares, clap etc etc percussions (i'd rather call them drums if u feel the difference) then of course mot of techno has some. so by definition techno is percussive.

of course there are many exception to this rule (steve reich is a good quote though i hardly can call what he does techno)

if u mean by percussions the drums like congo bongo etc ... well i dont think its necessary to make a god techno track at all. example : jeff mills - the bells

[MangaFish]

i was thinking more along the lines of snares/hi-hats/cymbols/etc

[wrong]

Dan Bell / Todd Sines some of the best techno ever... it's not about having loads of percussion, imo if you fill up all the gaps, you lose the funk. It's about where you put it, making the most out of what you've got

[The Overfiend]

not all techno has to have great percussion, i mean look at the kanzleramt stuff (diego, kowalski), all those great synth melodies are phat.

Diego is one of the best percussion users there is, improper engrish but you get my point.